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DEZKA DIABLO
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Posted - 2014.03.23 09:31:00 -
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Playing with the proto fits link I was trying to fit 3xcomplex shields on a minmatar mko and a comp cardio, 2x kins, and ish knives and couldn't fit the pg, I don't even think I had a cloak on it. Sorry I'm using my phone now but I ll post the comparison later.
But what I did do if memory serves, is I fit a AK.0 with :
Comp shield Basic shield Ish nk Adv or basic mag( couldn't remember) Compact hive Adv cloak Basic cardio ( which equals a complex 441 stamina I think) 3x kinetics
Has about 400 HP and runs 10.33 , min runs 10.38
I ll post the links later unless someone's bored and wants to compare trying to get the top speed, HP and stamina.
So fellow ninjas what's more important?
Damage, speed, stamina, back up weapon, HP , dual regen ( being able to do all this at once and still have a hive, on the min would you downgrade your speed to fit the hive and a sidearm or downgrade shields and lose HP )?
I'm curious to know what you think I'd more important, because with knive at pro 5 is it worth it to run it as a knife suit? The hack bonus is gonna be amazing and the damage is good but it seems the AK0 might be a vicious underdog . To be able to move that fast and carry that much is pretty amazing.
Also if you dropped the basic shield you should be able to use a complex cardio and have 771 stamina and run 10.33 with 400+ HP .
I am seriously considering this as my Nk/ SHOT GUN FIT!
What do you think? Sorry I didn't post links it's too late here.
Dead trigger master , an ya I do that ISH ON PURPOSE!
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DEZKA DIABLO
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2014.03.23 10:07:00 -
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Broonfondle Majikthies wrote:Why fit it to run and cloak when it looks like you'll turn into a glow stick ever time you move so fast?
Looks like the emphasis for the cloak will be to walk more and take your time on the approach.
Not to mention you'll eventually need some dampening, especially if their's a decent Gal logi on the enemy team. The cloak is the dampener, a speed tanked minja would have to do the same but have less HP to fit the cloak. IMO the cloak is for you to reposition yourself, and if your running 10.33 with 700+ stamina you'll be fine.
The point was I don't think any minjas actually noticed how hard it's gonna be to fit that dream fit of 10+ speed and stamina, because it's still gonna be just as hard as now unless you drop the cloak, then you have no damps.
But the AK could run all that and even lose the shields for percision or sa damage mods, 10% damage to 200x15% for pro 5 still puts you over 1000 damage and not far behind a minja, jus saying could be a way better suit aside from not having the hack bonus
Dead trigger master , an ya I do that ISH ON PURPOSE!
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DEZKA DIABLO
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Posted - 2014.03.23 17:51:00 -
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:Reav Hannari wrote:Using knives and not the Matari scout is costing you 25% damage. so what? what does it matter if YOU CANT FIT THE DAMN SCOUT!!!!?? This is what I'm saying, everyone's getting all minja excited, and trying to tell me I'm fitting it wrong or I lose damage, but the point of the post was that:
The min fitting options still suck, is it worth it to switch to a suit with better fitting options, same speed, more HP and stamina all for less damage and hack speed?
And Delt, speed won't be dead in 1.8, faster scouts, more base stamina, changes to ttk and damage, well see but I think your wrong, cuz when I'm running past ten it's hard to shoot me
Dead trigger master , an ya I do that ISH ON PURPOSE!
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DEZKA DIABLO
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Posted - 2014.03.23 18:09:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:Speed tanking doesn't work.
Damp, codebreaker, shield extenders, cloak, knives, re's doesn't fit. Yes it does..... downgrade something other than the knives. Edit: I can fit proto knives, std RE's, proto cloak, 3 complexes shield extenders, complex codebreaker and complex dampner, also using an adv pg upgrade. Says YES it does then in the last sentence he cheats with the CPU upgrade lmao, dude I'm talking no upgrades and the WHOLE POINT OF THE THREAD was: Speed, stamina , HP vs the 25% damage
The point was to have it do 10.3 plus the 440 stamina, the minja is still gonna be a bytch to fit unless you drop cloak, the ak can match everything and still do 1000 knive damage, run the cloak and have a lot of HP
Dead trigger master , an ya I do that ISH ON PURPOSE!
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DEZKA DIABLO
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2014.03.23 18:12:00 -
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Django Quik wrote:DEZKA DIABLO wrote:And Delt, speed won't be dead in 1.8, faster scouts ??? Since when did we get a speed buff in 1.8? Increases to stamina so your gonna be faster longer and I'm pretty sure all minmatar got a minor increase, don't quote me on it but I thought I heard this through the grapevine
Dead trigger master , an ya I do that ISH ON PURPOSE!
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