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Harpyja Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1361	Posted - 2014.03.22 19:01:00 - [1] - Quote So I was driving around, when I heard the alarm sound of proxies and a fraction of a second later, BOOM! All 3950 shield, 1500 armor gone. Kudos to whoever did that. Why can't there be more people like you instead of all the QQ'ing on the forums? "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
Michael-J-Fox Richards Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 91	Posted - 2014.03.22 19:04:00 - [2] - Quote dont try to help them, i cant play dust right now and seeing people cry on these forums is the only entertainment i get please http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvH1NwqhbY8 Assault Dropship Pilot
Appia Vibbia Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1673	Posted - 2014.03.22 19:12:00 - [3] - Quote Probably because proximity mines make this loud beeping sound that most tanker can hear, and pay attention to, so they avoid them. And the more proximity mines? the louder and more obnoxious the beeping. Appia Vibbia for CPM1 AppiaVibbia(at)gmail(dot)com AKA Nappia, AKA Mathppia
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 3618	Posted - 2014.03.22 19:13:00 - [4] - Quote Yeah AV is balanced because one guy had to spawn a logi suit with every set of Proxies they can fit, and spend a full minute stood in the open throwing them all down. All this on the off chance that a tank may or may not come through, that an LAV doesn't pop them first, that a cranberry doesn't spot them and get some easy Eq destruction WP, that the tank doesn't have its hardeners on and survive anyway, and that the tank doesn't spot them itself and destroy them or drive around. Yeah, AV is balanced because of that. No.
Asha Starwind DUST University Ivy League 550	Posted - 2014.03.22 19:13:00 - [5] - Quote Operator Error. Someone got lucky because you make a mistake. Mad Bomber Now with 50% less profile
Spademan The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 983	Posted - 2014.03.22 19:14:00 - [6] - Quote Impressive, I've not encountered anyone else that uses them, I only ever get LAV's with them. Would like to know how you got stringed into their path though. I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special. Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
Michael-J-Fox Richards Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 93	Posted - 2014.03.22 19:16:00 - [7] - Quote Asha Starwind wrote: Operator Error. Someone got lucky because you make a mistake. did you even read and/or comprehend the post, he was admitting that someone got the best of him using a decent tactic, derp http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvH1NwqhbY8 Assault Dropship Pilot
Awesome Pantaloons Lokapalas. 325	Posted - 2014.03.22 19:19:00 - [8] - Quote I use proxies all the time. Got two LAVs at once and three tanks in one match. lol No idea what they thought the beeping was XD "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited." -The Code of Demeanor
Asha Starwind DUST University Ivy League 552	Posted - 2014.03.22 19:22:00 - [9] - Quote Michael-J-Fox Richards wrote: Asha Starwind wrote: Operator Error. Someone got lucky because you make a mistake. did you even read and/or comprehend the post, he was admitting that someone got the best of him using a decent tactic, derp Yes, I read the post, tard. I've he was paying attention to where he was going he would've noticed the proxies before getting any where near them. There should have been at least 8 or them on the ground to knock him out in one go. 8 proxies aren't very hard to spot. Mad Bomber Now with 50% less profile
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 780	Posted - 2014.03.22 19:24:00 - [10] - Quote Use them all the time, could understand the beeping if maybe you had a scanner active. Why in the world tanks get a free passive scanner for one piece of equipment is beyond me. CCP you better nail 1.8, as it stands 1.7 is a total disaster. Henchmen21: Infantry Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
Harpyja Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1361	Posted - 2014.03.22 19:25:00 - [11] - Quote Awesome Pantaloons wrote: I use proxies all the time. Got two LAVs at once and three tanks in one match. lol No idea what they thought the beeping was XD Wow, I'm surprised at how many people think that because proxies beep, they automatically become easy to avoid. *Proxies are much more lethal than a scout suit attempting to place REs on me.* Proxies are invisible unless you look extremely hard at where they are (requires knowledge of them being there in the first place). The beeping sound only activates when you're a few meters away, and unless you're already at a dead standstill or crawling at a slow pace, you'll drive right over them before you get a chance to react. "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
Harpyja Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1361	Posted - 2014.03.22 19:28:00 - [12] - Quote Asha Starwind wrote: Michael-J-Fox Richards wrote: Asha Starwind wrote: Operator Error. Someone got lucky because you make a mistake. did you even read and/or comprehend the post, he was admitting that someone got the best of him using a decent tactic, derp Yes, I read the post, tard. I've he was paying attention to where he was going he would've noticed the proxies before getting any where near them. There should have been at least 8 or them on the ground to knock him out in one go. 8 proxies aren't very hard to spot. Like I just said, proxies are nearly invisible unless you look at them really hard, which requires knowledge of their existence. Only *once* did I ever spot proxies before I heard the beeping, and it was because they were placed on bright yellow sand and the map was really bright which provided stark contrast with the proxies, and even then, they were just like little black specks on the ground and upon closer investigation (I stopped), I was able to determine them as proxies. Everywhere else, and especially in shadows, proxies blend right in. "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
Rusty Shallows 1193	Posted - 2014.03.22 19:28:00 - [13] - Quote Spademan wrote: Impressive, I've not encountered anyone else that uses them, I only ever get LAV's with them. Would like to know how you got strung into their path though. I lose LAVs to them do to this damnable need for speed. Can't even remember the last time a beep could be heard. Frankly CCP should just get rid of it. Let vehicle scanners up to the type (Basic, Adv, Proto) detect the mines. Here, have some candy and a Like. :-) Forums > Game
Fyra Yacile Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 26	Posted - 2014.03.22 19:33:00 - [14] - Quote Harpyja wrote: So I was driving around, when I heard the alarm sound of proxies and a fraction of a second later, BOOM! All 3950 shield, 1500 armor gone. Kudos to whoever did that. Why can't there be more people like you instead of all the QQ'ing on the forums? Thats just you being a bad tanker If you get killed by proxys even with a damn alarm telling you that you are approaching proxies then you are a moron Good tankers don't get killed by proxys
Temias Mercurial ANGEL FLEET 17	Posted - 2014.03.22 19:36:00 - [15] - Quote It's funny how tanks get the notification of proxies, but LAVs get destroyed without warning... you'd think an LAV would run right past them, while tanks, that are slower (in most cases when unaware of proxies), would be destroyed as they are crawling over them. Strange...
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui The Containment Unit 414	Posted - 2014.03.22 19:44:00 - [16] - Quote Fyra Yacile wrote: Harpyja wrote: So I was driving around, when I heard the alarm sound of proxies and a fraction of a second later, BOOM! All 3950 shield, 1500 armor gone. Kudos to whoever did that. Why can't there be more people like you instead of all the QQ'ing on the forums? Thats just you being a bad tanker If you get killed by proxys even with a damn alarm telling you that you are approaching proxies then you are a moron Good tankers don't get killed by proxys Who the hell are you ??? Leave all negative comments about tanks in the bin marked " TRASH " and we'll get to it as soon as possible . Thank You
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui The Containment Unit 414	Posted - 2014.03.22 19:47:00 - [17] - Quote Temias Mercurial wrote: It's funny how tanks get the notification of proxies, but LAVs get destroyed without warning... you'd think an LAV would run right past them, while tanks, that are slower (in most cases when unaware of proxies), would be destroyed as they are crawling over them. Strange... I drive LAV's and hear the beeps so what's your point ? Believe it or not , LAV's move faster than tanks ... so maybe your speed caused you to not hear the beeps . Yes I said that because tanks slow down for encounters while LAV's don't for the most part . Leave all negative comments about tanks in the bin marked " TRASH " and we'll get to it as soon as possible . Thank You
Temias Mercurial ANGEL FLEET 18	Posted - 2014.03.22 20:01:00 - [18] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Temias Mercurial wrote: It's funny how tanks get the notification of proxies, but LAVs get destroyed without warning... you'd think an LAV would run right past them, while tanks, that are slower (in most cases when unaware of proxies), would be destroyed as they are crawling over them. Strange... I drive LAV's and hear the beeps so what's your point ? Believe it or not , LAV's move faster than tanks ... so maybe your speed caused you to not hear the beeps . Yes I said that because tanks slow down for encounters while LAV's don't for the most part . 50% of the time I'll run across a bridge or road and explode for no apparent reason, the killfeed proves otherwise. I'm not saying they're OP or anything, they're fine as is, but spontaneous combustion is quite daunting. Proxies are quite loud, and it could be that the game is just glitching out. For example, when a strike is called in, you don't always hear the preparing sound, and any hopes of running away are gone... instantly. LAV's can move substantially faster than tanks, I'm aware of this, especially with a nitrous. If proxies can activate instantly for a fast vehicle, it just doesn't make sense that they wouldn't for a slower one that's practically crawling...
RKKR The Southern Legion League of Infamy 839	Posted - 2014.03.22 20:03:00 - [19] - Quote Because they don't always detonate. + the other good comments.
Temias Mercurial ANGEL FLEET 18	Posted - 2014.03.22 20:03:00 - [20] - Quote Rusty Shallows wrote: Spademan wrote: Impressive, I've not encountered anyone else that uses them, I only ever get LAV's with them. Would like to know how you got strung into their path though. I lose LAVs to them do to this damnable need for speed. Can't even remember the last time a beep could be heard. Frankly CCP should just get rid of it. Let vehicle scanners up to matching types (Basic, Adv, Proto) detect the mines. If vehicles could scan proxies, then what would the point to them be? They're a trap, a tactic. You may as well inform the opposing team that you're all heading to the side of the the objective to ambush them...
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8640	Posted - 2014.03.22 20:12:00 - [21] - Quote Yeah same. I actually saw some guys from Contract Hunters making very solid use of Proxies, coupled with two Carbon 7 Forgegunners able to lock down vehicles across the entire map......It was wondrous.....dunno if they were Q syncing...but they worked well together. "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 6025	Posted - 2014.03.22 20:12:00 - [22] - Quote Harpyja wrote: So I was driving around, when I heard the alarm sound of proxies and a fraction of a second later, BOOM! All 3950 shield, 1500 armor gone. Kudos to whoever did that. Why can't there be more people like you instead of all the QQ'ing on the forums? Anecdotal evidence doesn't really mean anything. let's look at this. Quote: So a tanker was driving around with about 7k HP shields and a some hardeners hardener, and I fire all of my Swarms at him. All 8,316HP of damage eaten. And he still managed to live! Kudos to whoever drove that Gunnlogi. Why can't there be more tankers like you instead of all the QQ'ing on the forum? Did this mean that V/AV was balanced in 1.6? No? Then your a hypocrite. You might also be suffering from a case of the scrubs. You heard the beeping, yet you decided to keep driving in that direction anyways? You should go back to DUST University. As I've told you before. Your cowardice and/or incompetence is not a sign of balance. However I will take great pride in your statement, as this means I am a smarter pilot than you. [/thread] HAV is the new APC [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Tectonic Fusion 1269	Posted - 2014.03.22 20:41:00 - [23] - Quote Temias Mercurial wrote: may as well inform the opposing team that you're all heading to the side of the the objective to ambush them... Active scanners exist donchaknow? True Adamance wrote: Yeah same. I actually saw some guys from Contract Hunters making very solid use of Proxies, coupled with two Carbon 7 Forgegunners able to lock down vehicles across the entire map......It was wondrous.....dunno if they were Q syncing...but they worked well together. I would have used that opportunity to hack the point(s) and basically win. Solo Player Squad status: Locked
Rusty Shallows 1195	Posted - 2014.03.22 20:51:00 - [24] - Quote Temias Mercurial wrote: Rusty Shallows wrote: Spademan wrote: Impressive, I've not encountered anyone else that uses them, I only ever get LAV's with them. Would like to know how you got strung into their path though. I lose LAVs to them do to this damnable need for speed. Can't even remember the last time a beep could be heard. Frankly CCP should just get rid of it. Let vehicle scanners up to matching types (Basic, Adv, Proto) detect the mines. If vehicles could scan proxies, then what would the point to them be? They're a trap, a tactic. You may as well inform the opposing team that you're all heading to the side of the the objective to ambush them... When fitting vehicle user would have to make a choice to give up tank or gank on the speculation there will even be proxies out there. Infantry using basic proxies would still be invisible to militia vehicle scanners and so forth. So SP investment matters. Which is better than the free beep noises we currently have. IMO. Here, have some candy and a Like. :-) Forums > Game
Nothing Certain Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 335	Posted - 2014.03.22 20:51:00 - [25] - Quote Harpyja wrote: So I was driving around, when I heard the alarm sound of proxies and a fraction of a second later, BOOM! All 3950 shield, 1500 armor gone. Kudos to whoever did that. Why can't there be more people like you instead of all the QQ'ing on the forums? You got killed by proxies and thought it significant enough to not only remember but to make a post about it. I can't even remember the times I am killed by a tank while playing AV by the end of the match. I can't remember the number of times I've been killed laying proxies with remotes down, while the number of times this has actually worked I can count on my fingers. Because, that's why.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8640	Posted - 2014.03.22 20:55:00 - [26] - Quote Nothing Certain wrote: Harpyja wrote: So I was driving around, when I heard the alarm sound of proxies and a fraction of a second later, BOOM! All 3950 shield, 1500 armor gone. Kudos to whoever did that. Why can't there be more people like you instead of all the QQ'ing on the forums? You got killed by proxies and thought it significant enough to not only remember but to make a post about it. I can't even remember the times I am killed by a tank while playing AV by the end of the match. I can't remember the number of times I've been killed laying proxies with remotes down, while the number of times this has actually worked I can count on my fingers. I think his post is more or less commenting on how a type of weapon was being well used. Its not a hard weapon to use or skill into......but using them right yields tangible rewards. "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two
Nothing Certain Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 338	Posted - 2014.03.22 23:12:00 - [27] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Nothing Certain wrote: Harpyja wrote: So I was driving around, when I heard the alarm sound of proxies and a fraction of a second later, BOOM! All 3950 shield, 1500 armor gone. Kudos to whoever did that. Why can't there be more people like you instead of all the QQ'ing on the forums? You got killed by proxies and thought it significant enough to not only remember but to make a post about it. I can't even remember the times I am killed by a tank while playing AV by the end of the match. I can't remember the number of times I've been killed laying proxies with remotes down, while the number of times this has actually worked I can count on my fingers. I think his post is more or less commenting on how a type of weapon was being well used. Its not a hard weapon to use or skill into......but using them right yields tangible rewards. It seems to me he is saying that tanks can be taken out easily by proxies if you try and are half way competent. In other words, tanks are balanced, HTFU-get gud, quit bitching. Because, that's why.
Nothing Certain Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 339	Posted - 2014.03.22 23:19:00 - [28] - Quote My experience with proxies is that most the time they just sit, unused. Likely vehicle approaches are well known, if you place you mines there, they are expected. There are limited areas of effective deployment and you can catch a tanker once and the dumb ones twice but even the stupidest ones start looking by the third time. We have limited maps and we play many matches, so every tanker knows where the good spots are, even if you catch a tank with a proxie, unless they hit a pile they just roll right over them. They aren't worthless but really, ask any tankers how many times a game they die to proxies. Maybe once in ten games. Does that seem efficient? Because, that's why.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8642	Posted - 2014.03.22 23:32:00 - [29] - Quote Nothing Certain wrote: True Adamance wrote: Nothing Certain wrote: Harpyja wrote: So I was driving around, when I heard the alarm sound of proxies and a fraction of a second later, BOOM! All 3950 shield, 1500 armor gone. Kudos to whoever did that. Why can't there be more people like you instead of all the QQ'ing on the forums? You got killed by proxies and thought it significant enough to not only remember but to make a post about it. I can't even remember the times I am killed by a tank while playing AV by the end of the match. I can't remember the number of times I've been killed laying proxies with remotes down, while the number of times this has actually worked I can count on my fingers. I think his post is more or less commenting on how a type of weapon was being well used. Its not a hard weapon to use or skill into......but using them right yields tangible rewards. It seems to me he is saying that tanks can be taken out easily by proxies if you try and are half way competent. In other words, tanks are balanced, HTFU-get gud, quit bitching. He never said that. But yeah they can take down HAV if placed well. HAV aren't balanced because of this fact. "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two
Galvan Nized Deep Space Republic 842	Posted - 2014.03.22 23:52:00 - [30] - Quote Rusty Shallows wrote: Temias Mercurial wrote: Rusty Shallows wrote: Spademan wrote: Impressive, I've not encountered anyone else that uses them, I only ever get LAV's with them. Would like to know how you got strung into their path though. I lose LAVs to them do to this damnable need for speed. Can't even remember the last time a beep could be heard. Frankly CCP should just get rid of it. Let vehicle scanners up to matching types (Basic, Adv, Proto) detect the mines. If vehicles could scan proxies, then what would the point to them be? They're a trap, a tactic. You may as well inform the opposing team that you're all heading to the side of the the objective to ambush them... When fitting vehicle user would have to make a choice to give up tank or gank on the speculation there will even be proxies out there. Infantry using basic proxies would still be invisible to militia vehicle scanners and so forth. So SP investment matters. Which is better than the free beep noises we currently have. IMO. With current proxies...absolutely no way they should be scanned. Imagine a tank with proto scanners..unkillable by proxies. All you really need is advanced scanners because you can only have 6 active proxies at proto...not enough to kill a tank. Vehicle scanners have no reason to be 360 degrees in the first place. Making proxies scannable completely removes them from the game. Now if you had to give up a mod to scan equipment (and only equipment) then maybe. But still proxies would need a nice buff to compensate.
Henrietta Unknown Sooper Speshul Ponee Fors Dropsuit Samurai 73	Posted - 2014.03.22 23:53:00 - [31] - Quote Dunno, never encountered or died by proxies, BUT IT SOUNDS DAMN SCARY! Coming from a counter-tanker, who recently let his glass cannon Sica fall to AV. GG.
jordy mack Ultramarine Corp 225	Posted - 2014.03.23 03:00:00 - [32] - Quote were u on the tabletop 4 point map near the supply depot :) one of my favorite proxy maps. Less QQ more PewPew
Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death 2263	Posted - 2014.03.23 03:22:00 - [33] - Quote I got done by proxes a couple days ago in my missile tank; my durability is low, so when I get hit I have to run. Every now and then the only place for me to run is over proxes. This time I didn't have a hardener available. And my nitrous was on. ak.0 4 LYFE Large Missile Turrets: the real unicorns of DUST.
Nothing Certain Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 343	Posted - 2014.03.23 10:02:00 - [34] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Nothing Certain wrote: True Adamance wrote: Nothing Certain wrote: Harpyja wrote: So I was driving around, when I heard the alarm sound of proxies and a fraction of a second later, BOOM! All 3950 shield, 1500 armor gone. Kudos to whoever did that. Why can't there be more people like you instead of all the QQ'ing on the forums? You got killed by proxies and thought it significant enough to not only remember but to make a post about it. I can't even remember the times I am killed by a tank while playing AV by the end of the match. I can't remember the number of times I've been killed laying proxies with remotes down, while the number of times this has actually worked I can count on my fingers. I think his post is more or less commenting on how a type of weapon was being well used. Its not a hard weapon to use or skill into......but using them right yields tangible rewards. It seems to me he is saying that tanks can be taken out easily by proxies if you try and are half way competent. In other words, tanks are balanced, HTFU-get gud, quit bitching. He never said that. But yeah they can take down HAV if placed well. HAV aren't balanced because of this fact. So you don't think asking " why ca,n't theRe be more people like you" doesn't mean competent and ma,king an effort? You don't think "instead of all the Qq'ing in the forums" is "quit bitching"? Because, that's why.
Texs Red DUST University Ivy League 324	Posted - 2014.03.23 10:58:00 - [35] - Quote I use proxy mines all the time and to great effect. I still have a SEVER logi suit I bought back in Chromosome that I put STD and ADV mines on with a hive so even if I die it is hardly any significant loss ( I don't care about KDR much). It's all about placement, you have to choose spots where the terrain shifts from one look to another so that your cluster of small black dots is hidden from contrast. Also never put them in the same spot twice. Depending on how keen the tank(s) are in a match, and the map, I can get up to 3 tanks a game. After that they either realize what I am doing and are astute enough to notice them or they stop bringing in vehicles (terror of where I put them next?). Even keep they are smart enough, by then I have usually killed 2-3 tanks with my 8k suit so my ISK vs ISK loss is fantastic.
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 3070	Posted - 2014.03.23 11:45:00 - [36] - Quote Harpyja wrote: So I was driving around, when I heard the alarm sound of proxies and a fraction of a second later, BOOM! All 3950 shield, 1500 armor gone. Kudos to whoever did that. Why can't there be more people like you instead of all the QQ'ing on the forums? Has happened to me Never saw the mines on the road, didnt hear the beeping either but i was killed by proxies Then on other matches ive heard the beeping but sometimes im going that fast its too late and i hit em but i survived Not many use proxies anyways Intelligence is OP
Texs Red DUST University Ivy League 324	Posted - 2014.03.23 11:55:00 - [37] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Not many use proxies anyways That is part of the reason they can be so effective, tankers aren't usually expecting them.

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