DUST Search - Tank vs Dropship

Bat Shard0 wrote:

I writing this provoked by my last game today when I lost 2 Assault dropships because of enemy Sica in the red line. Its not about the monney, its because of balance

I play the game since closed beta. I have specialization only in sniper and can use all type of dropships. Personally preffer galente ADS. When I fly some time I play alone, some time I play with side gunner - both are fun for me. In general tanks dominate the ground and dropships dominate the air, right? But when they colide I see imbalance. Let me explain.

As a vehicals both tank and dropship can be fit with turrets - Tank have 1 heavy + 2 light turret slots, dropship up to 2 light turret slots. If you ever try to kill tank with light turret you probably know this is not easy task, especially after Uprising 1.7 and increased tank speed. But if you try to kill Dropship with Tank you probably know it is easy. Everything you must do is to go in red zone on the hill and wait until the pilot show himself. 2 hits and probably dropship is down. The heavy Rail turret has enormous alpha and formidable rate of fire, and its disadvantage - low turret rotation speed and heat build - is not a big problem when you shoot from long range and need only 2-3 direct hits. So the 100k ISK Sika can literally close the sky in every game with friendly red line option. It mean even pilots with 15 mil SP in vehicle command, vehicle upgrades and turret operation is impotent to do anything against a tank driver who play the game form only 10 days. As it is possible in EVE too, at least there are counter measures in space. In DUST the only counter is to call out the dropship and go by foot or use other tank. Personally I feel it is not right. I understand tankers try to use their advantages with minimal risk, but that game is FPS, not farmville. If you want to kill something - go forward and risk your ass. And it comes to CCP to change rules. My personal opinion is to nerf range of rail turrets up to 200-250 m. So rail tanks still shall have advantage in range against blaster tanks, but staying in red line shall be worthless because no targets in its range. I think it is fair.

I dont mind against the Forge gunners. Their alpha is similar to rail tanks, but their range prevent them to shoot from red line and hit the targets in the midlle of the map plus they are much defensless than tanks. Probably some tankers shall say that in the middle of the map they are defensless against the dropships and I shall agree - but I believe it easy can be fixed if the upper point for light turret on tanks can shoot in every angle even in 90 degrees. standard 20MJ rail turret easy shall make every dropship pilot above the tank to reconsider its position.

I hope other proposals shall be seen here.


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Sir Dukey KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 422	Posted - 2014.03.22 14:09:00 - [1] - Quote Bat Shard0 wrote: I writing this provoked by my last game today when I lost 2 Assault dropships because of enemy Sica in the red line. Its not about the monney, its because of balance I play the game since closed beta. I have specialization only in sniper and can use all type of dropships. Personally preffer galente ADS. When I fly some time I play alone, some time I play with side gunner - both are fun for me. In general tanks dominate the ground and dropships dominate the air, right? But when they colide I see imbalance. Let me explain. As a vehicals both tank and dropship can be fit with turrets - Tank have 1 heavy + 2 light turret slots, dropship up to 2 light turret slots. If you ever try to kill tank with light turret you probably know this is not easy task, especially after Uprising 1.7 and increased tank speed. But if you try to kill Dropship with Tank you probably know it is easy. Everything you must do is to go in red zone on the hill and wait until the pilot show himself. 2 hits and probably dropship is down. The heavy Rail turret has enormous alpha and formidable rate of fire, and its disadvantage - low turret rotation speed and heat build - is not a big problem when you shoot from long range and need only 2-3 direct hits. So the 100k ISK Sika can literally close the sky in every game with friendly red line option. It mean even pilots with 15 mil SP in vehicle command, vehicle upgrades and turret operation is impotent to do anything against a tank driver who play the game form only 10 days. As it is possible in EVE too, at least there are counter measures in space. In DUST the only counter is to call out the dropship and go by foot or use other tank. Personally I feel it is not right. I understand tankers try to use their advantages with minimal risk, but that game is FPS, not farmville. If you want to kill something - go forward and risk your ass. And it comes to CCP to change rules. My personal opinion is to nerf range of rail turrets up to 200-250 m. So rail tanks still shall have advantage in range against blaster tanks, but staying in red line shall be worthless because no targets in its range. I think it is fair. I dont mind against the Forge gunners. Their alpha is similar to rail tanks, but their range prevent them to shoot from red line and hit the targets in the midlle of the map plus they are much defensless than tanks. Probably some tankers shall say that in the middle of the map they are defensless against the dropships and I shall agree - but I believe it easy can be fixed if the upper point for light turret on tanks can shoot in every angle even in 90 degrees. standard 20MJ rail turret easy shall make every dropship pilot above the tank to reconsider its position. I hope other proposals shall be seen here. GG, it was me. get the fk off the field you noob.