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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
5979
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Posted - 2014.03.21 17:05:00 -
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Why have I not been informed about the power of these missiles?
AV > HAV > INF > AV | Not: HAV > AV GëÑ INF
[s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through
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calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
2192
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Posted - 2014.03.21 17:07:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Why have I not been informed about the power of these missiles?
keep trying, you'll notice after you fail to kill one the flaw in the missile plan |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
5979
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Posted - 2014.03.21 17:09:00 -
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calisk galern wrote: keep trying, you'll notice after you fail to kill one the flaw in the missile plan
Well, the only time I've failed is against a hardened shield HAV or when my missiles missed.
But usually they have so little HP left that they retreat instead of fighting, buying me some time to reload.
AV > HAV > INF > AV | Not: HAV > AV GëÑ INF
[s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
3594
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Posted - 2014.03.21 17:09:00 -
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The only reason I play Cal FW.
No.
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Ansiiis The Trustworthy
Mocking Bird Inc.
895
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Posted - 2014.03.21 17:16:00 -
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You're in trouble if you're facing good players with nitros - they will shoot you calmly until it is about time you reload, then they activate nitros and ram you or driver around like an asian woman.
Want PVE? Wonder why?
New picture every day.
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Tebu Gan
Dem Durrty Boyz
674
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Posted - 2014.03.21 17:22:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Why have I not been informed about the power of these missiles?
Trust me, they aren't as great as you think. Sure they can murder some maddies, but beyond that they aren't that great.
Tanks - Balancing Turrets
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
2238
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Posted - 2014.03.21 17:24:00 -
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In pubs they're quite effective.
Otherwise they're appallingly bad.
Anything, and I mean anything that missiles can do, a railgun can do better.
ak.0 4 LYFE
Large Missile Turrets: the real unicorns of DUST.
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Vulpes Dolosus
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
1082
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Posted - 2014.03.21 17:28:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:In pubs they're quite effective.
Otherwise they're appallingly bad.
Anything, and I mean anything that missiles can do, a railgun can do better. This is the sad truth. Which is why I want an EM missile variant. They'll tear apart Gunnlogi rail tanks up close (and only up close) and be they're only real counter (besides another rail tank).
Me in my ADS: 1,2
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Arx Ardashir
Imperium Aeternum
684
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Posted - 2014.03.21 17:46:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:In pubs they're quite effective.
Otherwise they're appallingly bad.
Anything, and I mean anything that missiles can do, a railgun can do better. This is the sad truth. Which is why I want an EM missile variant. They'll tear apart Gunnlogi rail tanks up close (and only up close) and be they're only real counter (besides another rail tank). Well hopefully the might of amarrian vehicle weaponry isn't too far off.
And as to the OP, I remember popping my first armor HAV with missiles and then thinking they were the best thing ever. But I've had them be very ineffective against shields, both hardened and unhardened.
I could be doing it wrong though, I suppose.
Now is the winter of our non-content.
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A manu dei et tet rimon.
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Leonid Tybalt
Heaven's-Gate
324
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Posted - 2014.03.21 17:49:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Why have I not been informed about the power of these missiles?
I've known about it for a long time
It's other difficult to get through shield hardeners though. But if you focus on manouevering your tank and making sure you get the drop on other tanks, they won't even have time to react to your 12 missile barrage of doom that does the damage of a railgun shot several times over. |
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GeneralButtNaked
Fatal Absolution
782
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Posted - 2014.03.21 17:52:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Why have I not been informed about the power of these missiles?
Because real tankers know they are garbage.
Real AV doesn't stop until all the tanks are dead.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
5979
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Posted - 2014.03.21 17:56:00 -
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GeneralButtNaked wrote:Atiim wrote:Why have I not been informed about the power of these missiles? Because real tankers know they are garbage. Define "Real Tanker"
AV > HAV > INF > AV | Not: HAV > AV GëÑ INF
[s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through
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Skihids
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
3096
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Posted - 2014.03.21 17:57:00 -
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Arx Ardashir wrote:Vulpes Dolosus wrote:Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:In pubs they're quite effective.
Otherwise they're appallingly bad.
Anything, and I mean anything that missiles can do, a railgun can do better. This is the sad truth. Which is why I want an EM missile variant. They'll tear apart Gunnlogi rail tanks up close (and only up close) and be they're only real counter (besides another rail tank). Well hopefully the might of amarrian vehicle weaponry isn't too far off. And as to the OP, I remember popping my first armor HAV with missiles and then thinking they were the best thing ever. But I've had them be very ineffective against shields, both hardened and unhardened. I could be doing it wrong though, I suppose.
If you thought blasters were too good against infantry just wait for the large laser turrets. Anything that can cut through HAV shields is going to vaporize dropsuits like a magnifying glass melting ants.
Give me a dropship with three small laser turrtes. Can you say "Martian War Machine"? |
Harpyja
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1345
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Posted - 2014.03.21 18:03:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Why have I not been informed about the power of these missiles? Because you were a scrub.
And you still are.
You're probably the only person in a missile tank that I won't give respect
"By His light, and His will"
- The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
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GeneralButtNaked
Fatal Absolution
782
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Posted - 2014.03.21 18:04:00 -
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Atiim wrote:GeneralButtNaked wrote:Atiim wrote:Why have I not been informed about the power of these missiles? Because real tankers know they are garbage. Define "Real Tanker"
Someone who knows why missiles are trash through experience.
Real AV doesn't stop until all the tanks are dead.
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Kigurosaka Laaksonen
DUST University Ivy League
698
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Posted - 2014.03.21 18:11:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:In pubs they're quite effective.
Otherwise they're appallingly bad.
Anything, and I mean anything that missiles can do, a railgun can do better. This is the sad truth. Which is why I want an EM missile variant. They'll tear apart Gunnlogi rail tanks up close (and only up close) and be they're only real counter (besides another rail tank).
EM ammo types would be possible if DUST did weapon and damage types like EVE.
Right now we have Laser, Hybrid - Plasma, Hybrid - Rail, Projectile and Explosive weapon types that have set damage modifiers against shields and armor.
We need Energy, Hybrid, Projectile, and Missile weapon types. They need to do some combination of EM, Thermal, Kinetic, and Explosive damage types.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
5979
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Posted - 2014.03.21 18:12:00 -
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GeneralButtNaked wrote:Atiim wrote:GeneralButtNaked wrote:Atiim wrote:Why have I not been informed about the power of these missiles? Because real tankers know they are garbage. Define "Real Tanker" Someone who knows why missiles are trash through experience. So basically I'm almost a real tanker?
You'd think piloting since 1.2 would make me one huh?
AV > HAV > INF > AV | Not: HAV > AV GëÑ INF
[s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through
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GeneralButtNaked
Fatal Absolution
782
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Posted - 2014.03.21 18:33:00 -
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Atiim wrote: So basically I'm almost a real tanker?
You'd think piloting since 1.2 would make me one huh?
Since you didn't know about resists, you were not tanking before 1.6. Every post you made to attempt that claim was completely invalidated when you showed your ignorance regarding fits.
You did not tank, and you certainly can't tank, otherwise you would be doing it in PC right now, where tankers are in high demand, people who can call a tank are just fodder.
You think you are a tanker? Get in touch with AE, or NS, or ERA. They need you. Then we will see if you are a tanker.
Real AV doesn't stop until all the tanks are dead.
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Leonid Tybalt
Heaven's-Gate
326
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Posted - 2014.03.21 18:45:00 -
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GeneralButtNaked wrote:Atiim wrote:Why have I not been informed about the power of these missiles? Because real tankers know they are garbage.
Haha! A lot of "real" tankers I've crushed with missiles probably thought they were garbage too.
Oh, and before you come whining about who's a real tanker and not: I've got 14 million sp into large vehicle turrets and vehicle upgrades. What do you have? |
Supernus Gigas
sNk Syndicate
525
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Posted - 2014.03.21 18:55:00 -
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Leonid Tybalt wrote:GeneralButtNaked wrote:Atiim wrote:Why have I not been informed about the power of these missiles? Because real tankers know they are garbage. Haha! A lot of "real" tankers I've crushed with missiles probably thought they were garbage too. Oh, and before you come whining about who's a real tanker and not: I've got 14 million sp into large vehicle turrets and vehicle upgrades. What do you have?
I wouldn't call them garbage, but they do fall short compared to the other turrets. Rails are all around better at AV and Blasters are better at AI.
It doesn't help that they have some stupid mechanics either.
Terrible reload system Full auto fire doesn't work when aiming at something "shootable" Drop off damage(makes no goddamn sense) Range is bad, 250m They absolutely blow against shields I swear the splash damage and radius is bugged or something
Don't get me wrong, I love my XT-201 Gunnlogi and I run it all the time, but Missiles just aren't as good as the other turrets, they're too situational.
FIRE UP THE HEAVY MEAT GRINDER! WE'RE HAVIN' CLONE BURGERS TONIGHT, BOYS!
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Foundation Seldon
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
599
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Posted - 2014.03.21 18:56:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Why have I not been informed about the power of these missiles?
Because Rails are still better overall and will remain so until such time as they are nerfed. It's a 600m Shotgun that works against anything called on the field vs. a weapon type that both needs a lot of SP to spec into and is only super effective against Armor Tanks and low flying Dropships.
Saga v. Methana Balance
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1939
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Posted - 2014.03.21 18:57:00 -
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Atiim wrote:GeneralButtNaked wrote:Atiim wrote:Why have I not been informed about the power of these missiles? Because real tankers know they are garbage. Define "Real Tanker" Meaning "not you"
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
5979
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Posted - 2014.03.21 18:58:00 -
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GeneralButtNaked wrote: Since you didn't know about resists, you were not tanking before 1.6. Every post you made to attempt that claim was completely invalidated when you showed your ignorance regarding fits.
[citation needed]
lolKen in not a citation btw. Don't believe everything you hear.
GeneralButtNaked wrote: You did not tank, and you certainly can't tank, otherwise you would be doing it in PC right now, where tankers are in high demand, people who can call a tank are just fodder.
You think you are a tanker? Get in touch with AE, or NS, or ERA. They need you. Then we will see if you are a tanker.
Why would I want to get in touch with them?
Most of them are elitist $#!tposters and jack@sses.
AV > HAV > INF > AV | Not: HAV > AV GëÑ INF
[s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
5980
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Posted - 2014.03.21 19:04:00 -
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Harpyja wrote:Atiim wrote:Why have I not been informed about the power of these missiles? Because you were a scrub. And you still are. You're probably the only person in a missile tank that I won't give respect Gaining respect from a tanker is like getting HIV from a prostitute.
AV > HAV > INF > AV | Not: HAV > AV GëÑ INF
[s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through
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Foundation Seldon
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
600
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Posted - 2014.03.21 19:06:00 -
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In this thread :
"Real Forum Warriors" ignore everything and **** post because Atiim is the topic creator. They then proceed to shamelessly whip out their e-*****' and **** on the floor in order to establish dominance among the forum pack. Watch closely as they arbitrarily create restrictions about who is and isn't a "real tanker" despite ignoring the obvious qualifier of "a person who uses tanks".
Truly fascinating, though we're unlikely to see the ever elusive mating ritual one assumes it involves sucking eachother's hate boners and ******* themselves.
Saga v. Methana Balance
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
5980
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Posted - 2014.03.21 19:11:00 -
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Foundation Seldon wrote:Atiim wrote:Why have I not been informed about the power of these missiles? Because Rails are still better overall and will remain so until such time as they are nerfed. It's a 600m Shotgun that works against anything called on the field vs. a weapon type that both needs a lot of SP to spec into and is only super effective against Armor Tanks and low flying Dropships. Assuming you run with damage mods, the TTK with missiles is a bit shorter.
Though they are a bit situational, but at least the LP cost on the XTs aren't as ridiculous as the cost on Particle Cannons
AV > HAV > INF > AV | Not: HAV > AV GëÑ INF
[s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through
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Supernus Gigas
sNk Syndicate
528
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Posted - 2014.03.21 19:19:00 -
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Foundation Seldon wrote:In this thread :
"Real Forum Warriors" ignore everything and **** post because Atiim is the topic creator. They then proceed to shamelessly whip out their e-*****' and **** on the floor in order to establish dominance among the forum pack. Watch closely as they arbitrarily create restrictions about who is and isn't a "real tanker" despite ignoring the obvious qualifier of "a person who uses tanks".
Truly fascinating, though we're unlikely to see the ever elusive mating ritual one assumes it involves sucking eachother's hate boners and ******* themselves.
Oh man, seriously. Some people take what defines someone as a "true ____" way too seriously.
"Oh, sorry, but you only started tanking in 1.whogivesafuck, my entire ancestry has a long history of tankers dating back to primordial times, so therefore you're not a real tanker, you're just scrub poseur noob."
FIRE UP THE HEAVY MEAT GRINDER! WE'RE HAVIN' CLONE BURGERS TONIGHT, BOYS!
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1939
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Posted - 2014.03.21 19:21:00 -
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Atiim wrote:GeneralButtNaked wrote:Atiim wrote:GeneralButtNaked wrote:Atiim wrote:Why have I not been informed about the power of these missiles? Because real tankers know they are garbage. Define "Real Tanker" Someone who knows why missiles are trash through experience. So basically I'm almost a real tanker? You'd think piloting since 1.2 would make me one huh? You're not even almost a real tanker. You're a never was, because you're still on a crusade against tanks.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1939
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Posted - 2014.03.21 19:22:00 -
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GeneralButtNaked wrote:Atiim wrote: So basically I'm almost a real tanker?
You'd think piloting since 1.2 would make me one huh?
Since you didn't know about resists, you were not tanking before 1.6. Every post you made to attempt that claim was completely invalidated when you showed your ignorance regarding fits. You did not tank, and you certainly can't tank, otherwise you would be doing it in PC right now, where tankers are in high demand, people who can call a tank are just fodder. You think you are a tanker? Get in touch with AE, or NS, or ERA. They need you. Then we will see if you are a tanker. AE? lol
I tried tanking for them. The other team had 6 rail tanks. There's only so much Taka and I can do against 6 scrubs.
Tanks are basically useless anyway, because they counter each other, thus nullifying themselves.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1939
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Posted - 2014.03.21 19:23:00 -
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Leonid Tybalt wrote:GeneralButtNaked wrote:Atiim wrote:Why have I not been informed about the power of these missiles? Because real tankers know they are garbage. Haha! A lot of "real" tankers I've crushed with missiles probably thought they were garbage too. Oh, and before you come whining about who's a real tanker and not: I've got 14 million sp into large vehicle turrets and vehicle upgrades. What do you have? Lol you've been saving SP for that long? And who might you be?
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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