DUST Search - im tired of galentee people whining

Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:

Galvan Nized wrote:

Cat Merc wrote:

shadow drake35 wrote:

all i have seen is them whining about their weapon being so up. If they are so UP why does everybody(most) run there stuff for assault, the AR and ion pistol(wait till it releases before you judge) they are fine.

Who the **** is going to run Ion Pistol?
People looked at the stats, it's ****, there is not a single redeeming value on this gun.

And people don't actually run the Gallente assault, they run the Gallente Logi, which is the only Gallente gear currently in existance that is better than the rest.
Which is funny because the rest of the gear is worse than the rest.

To be fair the Gallente have the best scout and best logi. The Assault competes but is beat out by the Amarr. Gallente also arguably has the best heavy.

They have the best suits...and will have in 1.8. It's just their weapons that suck.

Are you honestly suggesting that Amarr have the best assault?

There is one reason alone that keeps the Amarr Assault from being terribad, and that is synergy with ScR.

Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. DUST514514

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shadow drake35 The Third Day Galactic Skyfleet Empire 86	Posted - 2014.03.21 14:42:00 - [1] - Quote all i have seen is them whining about their weapon being so up. If they are so UP why does everybody(most) run there stuff for assault, the AR and ion pistol(wait till it releases before you judge) they are fine. MAG Raven, Valor, and S.V.E.R. Veteran
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 3220	Posted - 2014.03.21 14:48:00 - [2] - Quote When comparing range and DPS, the other 3 rifles are much better. Ask anybody using a Logi mK.0 and Kaalakiota RR or Boundless CR. They didn't throw all of that SP away from ARs for nothing. I GÖú Kittens.
shadow drake35 The Third Day Galactic Skyfleet Empire 86	Posted - 2014.03.21 14:49:00 - [3] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: When comparing range and DPS, the other 3 rifles are much better. Ask anybody using a Logi mK.0 and Kaalakiota RR or Boundless CR. They didn't throw all of that SP away from ARs for nothing. i have used all and AR works fine if it is used properly use it at its range MAG Raven, Valor, and S.V.E.R. Veteran
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 7599	Posted - 2014.03.21 14:54:00 - [4] - Quote shadow drake35 wrote: Rynoceros wrote: When comparing range and DPS, the other 3 rifles are much better. Ask anybody using a Logi mK.0 and Kaalakiota RR or Boundless CR. They didn't throw all of that SP away from ARs for nothing. i have used all and AR works fine if it is used properly use it at its range It WORKS But the other rifles do it infintely better, with the bonus of having more range. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. DUST514514
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 3221	Posted - 2014.03.21 15:02:00 - [5] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: shadow drake35 wrote: Rynoceros wrote: When comparing range and DPS, the other 3 rifles are much better. Ask anybody using a Logi mK.0 and Kaalakiota RR or Boundless CR. They didn't throw all of that SP away from ARs for nothing. i have used all and AR works fine if it is used properly use it at its range It WORKS But the other rifles do it infintely better, with the bonus of having more range. So much more range.... I GÖú Kittens.
Auris Lionesse Capital Acquisitions LLC 504	Posted - 2014.03.21 15:06:00 - [6] - Quote if it's fine im sure you wouldn't mind if we switched the dps with all the other weapons. Blasters are supposed to do most damage. Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Heroes in a half Gank! *TURTLE POWER!!!*
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 7604	Posted - 2014.03.21 15:14:00 - [7] - Quote shadow drake35 wrote: all i have seen is them whining about their weapon being so up. If they are so UP why does everybody(most) run there stuff for assault, the AR and ion pistol(wait till it releases before you judge) they are fine. Who the ** is going to run Ion Pistol? People looked at the stats, it's **, there is not a single redeeming value on this gun. And people don't actually run the Gallente assault, they run the Gallente Logi, which is the only Gallente gear currently in existance that is better than the rest. Which is funny because the rest of the gear is worse than the rest. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. DUST514514
axis alpha Red Star. EoN. 273	Posted - 2014.03.21 15:30:00 - [8] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: shadow drake35 wrote: Rynoceros wrote: When comparing range and DPS, the other 3 rifles are much better. Ask anybody using a Logi mK.0 and Kaalakiota RR or Boundless CR. They didn't throw all of that SP away from ARs for nothing. i have used all and AR works fine if it is used properly use it at its range It WORKS But the other rifles do it infintely better, with the bonus of having more range. then it's obvious said person needs to spec into something else if they want to fight from a far. All the rifles can't have the same dps and range Cmon. Also that's why there are different variants of the AR We won't follow the deceiver. You let this be your warning. The path of the wretched is burning..
JIMvc2 UNREAL WARRIORS 34	Posted - 2014.03.21 15:32:00 - [9] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: shadow drake35 wrote: all i have seen is them whining about their weapon being so up. If they are so UP why does everybody(most) run there stuff for assault, the AR and ion pistol(wait till it releases before you judge) they are fine. Who the ** is going to run Ion Pistol? People looked at the stats, it's **, there is not a single redeeming value on this gun. And people don't actually run the Gallente assault, they run the Gallente Logi, which is the only Gallente gear currently in existance that is better than the rest. Which is funny because the rest of the gear is worse than the rest. I'll be running the Ion pistol on both sidarm and primary. In the end, I win and everyone cries. If you run proto gear, prepare to suffer the consequences. You've been warned.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 7609	Posted - 2014.03.21 15:33:00 - [10] - Quote axis alpha wrote: Cat Merc wrote: shadow drake35 wrote: Rynoceros wrote: When comparing range and DPS, the other 3 rifles are much better. Ask anybody using a Logi mK.0 and Kaalakiota RR or Boundless CR. They didn't throw all of that SP away from ARs for nothing. i have used all and AR works fine if it is used properly use it at its range It WORKS But the other rifles do it infintely better, with the bonus of having more range. then it's obvious said person needs to spec into something else if they want to fight from a far. All the rifles can't have the same dps and range Cmon. Also that's why there are different variants of the AR Yes, which is why the other rifles need to get their DPS nerfed hard, because they have either equal or MORE DPS than the AR while also having more range. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. DUST514514

Danny Block Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 0	Posted - 2014.03.21 15:37:00 - [11] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: shadow drake35 wrote: all i have seen is them whining about their weapon being so up. If they are so UP why does everybody(most) run there stuff for assault, the AR and ion pistol(wait till it releases before you judge) they are fine. Who the ** is going to run Ion Pistol? People looked at the stats, it's **, there is not a single redeeming value on this gun. And people don't actually run the Gallente assault, they run the Gallente Logi, which is the only Gallente gear currently in existance that is better than the rest. Which is funny because the rest of the gear is worse than the rest. Well, I run Gal Assault suits now and will be doing so after 1.8 hits. I go about Dust as I treat EvE and dont chase fotm, but skill into what I like. Maybe Im just stubborn/stupid:)
Dan Blackfield Algintal Core Gallente Federation 8	Posted - 2014.03.21 15:39:00 - [12] - Quote Danny Block wrote: Cat Merc wrote: shadow drake35 wrote: all i have seen is them whining about their weapon being so up. If they are so UP why does everybody(most) run there stuff for assault, the AR and ion pistol(wait till it releases before you judge) they are fine. Who the ** is going to run Ion Pistol? People looked at the stats, it's **, there is not a single redeeming value on this gun. And people don't actually run the Gallente assault, they run the Gallente Logi, which is the only Gallente gear currently in existance that is better than the rest. Which is funny because the rest of the gear is worse than the rest. Well, I run Gal Assault suits now and will be doing so after 1.8 hits. I go about Dust as I treat EvE and dont chase fotm, but skill into what I like. Maybe Im just stubborn/stupid:) And just like EvE forums Dust changes character for you....
Roy Ventus Axis of Chaos 1435	Posted - 2014.03.21 15:45:00 - [13] - Quote shadow drake35 wrote: all i have seen is them whining about their weapon being so up. If they are so UP why does everybody(most) run there stuff for assault, the AR and ion pistol(wait till it releases before you judge) they are fine. It's not just us QQing though. Everyone's been whining, especially about the scouts and medium frames, how one race is better than the other but there's no general belief that one race is UP. Except for the exceptions, I'm chalking it up to the fact that the nerfs have people losing their minds. "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2787	Posted - 2014.03.21 16:00:00 - [14] - Quote Is it really hard to understand that we like our weapons and close range brawler style? It just sucks that our weapon gets balanced around having a hard dmg dropoff but none of the other weapons suffer from this. So they can do well in CQC and long range, while the AR does good in CQC but is useless at range(we don't want range, just to be the best CQC rifle) "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Michael-J-Fox Richards Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 86	Posted - 2014.03.21 16:14:00 - [15] - Quote i think the reason a lot of people use assault rifles is because they are newbs who dont visit these forums and dont understand the mechanics of the game, that there are differences between shields and armor, resistances etc, they are just naive generic FPS players who are used to COD/BF etc who think along the lines "every other shootie game i play i use assault rifles that what all us shootie guys use" and "hey this game has overshields like halo" i bet if the mass driver was just called a grenade launcher more newbs would try to use it. its purely because people dont know any better NOTE: im not saying everyone who uses AR's is dumb i myself only use em im very pro Gallente, just a larger majority than other weapon users are 2ND NOTE: the AR does need a slight buff lol http://i40.tinypic.com/33w8wtd.jpg http://i60.tinypic.com/29w7g29.jpg Assault Dropship Pilot
Rizlax Yazzax Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 118	Posted - 2014.03.21 16:22:00 - [16] - Quote shadow drake35 wrote: all i have seen is them whining about their weapon being so up. If they are so UP why does everybody(most) run there stuff for assault, the AR and ion pistol(wait till it releases before you judge) they are fine. Why do Amarrians do nothing but whine about their scout bonus? If it is so UP why are scouts using kincats and cardiacs? Wait until it releases before you judge.
Arx Ardashir Imperium Aeternum 682	Posted - 2014.03.21 16:31:00 - [17] - Quote Alright guys, that's enough. I was laughing with everyone else, but now I'm starting to feel bad. We all know the Gallente are short, so we thought it'd be pretty funny to see you guys trying to jump up and grab your sstuff off the top shelf. But it's been enough. I'm going to put everything on the bottom shelf for you guys now. No longer wil your weapons be up, they will now be down. Now is the winter of our non-content. Ghosts Chance's hero for 3/1/14. A manu dei et tet rimon.
Texs Red DUST University Ivy League 314	Posted - 2014.03.21 16:38:00 - [18] - Quote 1.8 Assault Rifle DPS vs variant assault weapons DPS Breach AR: 329.3 out to 48 meters vs RR 397.7 out to 78 Tac AR: 461 out to 60 meters with terrible kick vs ScR: 841 out to 78 meters with a charge shot Burst AR: 474 out to 54 meters vs CR: 594 out to 66 meters. AR: 411.2 AScR: 418.8 ACR: 420 ARR: 403 Here is my issue: All other weapons have "assault" variants that either are close to the AR or exceed it in DPS, often while having greater range, while any AR variant has less DPS and less range than the racial equal.
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 5274	Posted - 2014.03.21 16:49:00 - [19] - Quote FREEEEEDOM *1st Official Role Playing Gallente Asshole* -Title Awarded by True Adamance
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries 7650	Posted - 2014.03.22 07:22:00 - [20] - Quote Texs Red wrote: 1.8 Assault Rifle DPS vs variant assault weapons DPS Breach AR: 329.3 out to 48 meters vs RR 397.7 out to 78 Tac AR: 461 out to 60 meters with terrible kick vs ScR: 841 out to 78 meters with a charge shot Burst AR: 474 out to 54 meters vs CR: 594 out to 66 meters. AR: 411.2 AScR: 418.8 ACR: 420 ARR: 403 Here is my issue: All other weapons have "assault" variants that either are close to the AR or exceed it in DPS, often while having greater range, while any AR variant has less DPS and less range than the racial equal. Note how those assaults variants tend to have larger clips, tighter hipfire, more range, faster reloads, etc'. AScR in particular has all of those. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. DUST514514

Galvan Nized Deep Space Republic 839	Posted - 2014.03.22 08:17:00 - [21] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: shadow drake35 wrote: all i have seen is them whining about their weapon being so up. If they are so UP why does everybody(most) run there stuff for assault, the AR and ion pistol(wait till it releases before you judge) they are fine. Who the ** is going to run Ion Pistol? People looked at the stats, it's **, there is not a single redeeming value on this gun. And people don't actually run the Gallente assault, they run the Gallente Logi, which is the only Gallente gear currently in existance that is better than the rest. Which is funny because the rest of the gear is worse than the rest. To be fair the Gallente have the best scout and best logi. The Assault competes but is beat out by the Amarr. Gallente also arguably has the best heavy. They have the best suits...and will have in 1.8. It's just their weapons that suck.
Faquira Bleuetta Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 301	Posted - 2014.03.22 08:55:00 - [22] - Quote shadow drake35 wrote: all i have seen is them whining about their weapon being so up. If they are so UP why does everybody(most) run there stuff for assault, the AR and ion pistol(wait till it releases before you judge) they are fine. myyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy amarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr suxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx moreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee suchhhhhhhh Typical CCP Balancing behavior wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh (n+ëGèÖGÇ+GèÖ)n+ën+PpÇÄG£º~TEARS~G£ºpÇÅ 1.8 Laser rifle buff faq will be back to melt all ur sorry ass the good ol chromosomes days.
Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death 2248	Posted - 2014.03.22 09:48:00 - [23] - Quote Galvan Nized wrote: Cat Merc wrote: shadow drake35 wrote: all i have seen is them whining about their weapon being so up. If they are so UP why does everybody(most) run there stuff for assault, the AR and ion pistol(wait till it releases before you judge) they are fine. Who the ** is going to run Ion Pistol? People looked at the stats, it's *, there is not a single redeeming value on this gun. And people don't actually run the Gallente assault, they run the Gallente Logi, which is the only Gallente gear currently in existance that is better than the rest. Which is funny because the rest of the gear is worse than the rest. To be fair the Gallente have the best scout and best logi. The Assault competes but is beat out by the Amarr. Gallente also arguably has the best heavy. They have the best suits...and will have in 1.8. It's just their weapons that suck. Are you honestly suggesting that Amarr have the best assault? There is one reason alone that keeps the Amarr Assault from being terribad, and that is synergy with ScR. ak.0 4 LYFE Large Missile Turrets: the real* unicorns of DUST.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries 7678	Posted - 2014.03.22 18:18:00 - [24] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Galvan Nized wrote: Cat Merc wrote: shadow drake35 wrote: all i have seen is them whining about their weapon being so up. If they are so UP why does everybody(most) run there stuff for assault, the AR and ion pistol(wait till it releases before you judge) they are fine. Who the ** is going to run Ion Pistol? People looked at the stats, it's **, there is not a single redeeming value on this gun. And people don't actually run the Gallente assault, they run the Gallente Logi, which is the only Gallente gear currently in existance that is better than the rest. Which is funny because the rest of the gear is worse than the rest. To be fair the Gallente have the best scout and best logi. The Assault competes but is beat out by the Amarr. Gallente also arguably has the best heavy. They have the best suits...and will have in 1.8. It's just their weapons that suck. Are you honestly suggesting that Amarr have the best assault? There is one reason alone that keeps the Amarr Assault from being terribad, and that is synergy with ScR. And that's exactly why it's the best. That synergy makes the ScR insanely powerful. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. DUST514514


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