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STEALTH HUNTER ZERO
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Posted - 2014.03.21 08:42:00 -
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The problem is with 360 permascans and having less HP in any competitive battle such as PC you could damp a medium frame with far more HP and be more effective in most cases. Granted some people are better at running scouts or other various suits but you can't take the top tier players in their niche and balance solely off of their performance. Scouts needed more things to separate them from other suits, the 2nd equipment slot and the lower base profile we get in 1.8 help in this regard, not to mention the bonus to cloaking. |
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Posted - 2014.03.21 09:13:00 -
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Run PC and wait til someone you killed decides to be a **** and run permascans with the focused then all your advantages disappear lol. Thats really what I've found to be the worst thing for me in any match, especially PC.
I never thought the scout suit was bad, just needed a few adjustments like its getting in 1.8 so I'm thrilled with that. |
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Posted - 2014.03.21 09:28:00 -
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KingBabar wrote:STEALTH HUNTER ZERO wrote:Run PC and wait til someone you killed decides to be a **** and run permascans with the focused then all your advantages disappear lol. Thats really what I've found to be the worst thing for me in any match, especially PC. Currently tha scanner takes 5 seconds to use, ample time to kill the user, and it will only show you on the map for 5 seconds, then the scanner has a 25 second cooldown. For this to be effective the other team needs 4-6 of these in action spread among 2-4 players.
Thats true but if your 20 meters out or so flanking on the enemy and they do their 360 spin your totally screwed. It happens more often than you'd think. At least it won't be a problem for me in 1.8 tho. |
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Posted - 2014.03.21 09:31:00 -
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Scar Scrilla wrote:Recently started Gall Scouting, mostly run Adv with Shotty, SMG and Scanner. It's so much fun but of course I have to learn to play completely different now, with just a little over 300 total HP.
I'm steadily improving my Scout playstyle, taking cover and flanking works like a charm, depending on the map, most of the time. My best run so far, just had a few ones in this role, was 16-3 in Dom.
Needless to say if I run around in the open, I get squashed in less than a sec of course :)
Thanks to everybody on the forum encouraging ppl to play the scout class
Btw. is there a channel to squad up with other Scouts?
Scouts United is the channel your looking for. |
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Posted - 2014.03.21 10:02:00 -
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Korvin Lomont wrote:Django Quik wrote:Ignore the nonsense about brick scouts not being scouts - that's as bad as the saying logis that get high kill counts aren't logis.
Also, if you're actually managing to strafe dodge full-frontal, then I'm assuming you're using kb/m? Because I've never seen anyone using DS3 be able to strafe dodger face to face at all. But that's exactly what this community expect logis just doing logi stuff, scout are just there to die, heavies should be stationary turrets..... Regarding the OP. 1. any brick tanked suit can do in pubs (ok you don't even need to brick tank). Most scouts don't think we need more hp because we wan't to SCOUT, not necessarily chasing the latest FOTM weapon and brick tank to be of any use. What's the point of having different suits and roles if the only way to be of any use is stack armor and kill suff like assaults?? Right we could simply remove all but assault suits...what most (real) scouts want is to have a role apart from killing stuff because I can do this with other suits in a better way I don't need to use to lowest hp suit with a nimble speed advantage (that gets negated by armor plates) or a lower profile... I want to actually play as scout sneaking behind enemy lines provide intel, and get rewarded for doing so. Unfortunately CCP forces us to be light slayers as this is the only way for scouts to get a reasonable amount of WP (independent from game modes) And in that regard scouts gets simply outclassed. And just because a good player can be good in that suit against weaker players doesn't change the underlying problem.
Well for me personally, flanking behind the enemy and taking out their uplinks and CRU's while eliminating any enemies back to their frontlines is what its very good at. Since its not an assault this is where I believe it should shine and the changes in 1.8 help make this more achievable, which in turn helps separate/define its role from other suits. |
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Posted - 2014.03.21 19:24:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:STEALTH HUNTER ZERO wrote:Run PC and wait til someone you killed decides to be a **** and run permascans with the focused then all your advantages disappear lol. Thats really what I've found to be the worst thing for me in any match, especially PC.
I never thought the scout suit was bad, just needed a few adjustments like its getting in 1.8 so I'm thrilled with that. Then get one up on their butthurt arse, brick tank the scout with re's and an ar, start playing like an assault so they end up putting it away, then switch back to ewar fit and carry on. 
I meant it as if yur sneaking up on an objective and theres 3 to 4 enemies there, if you get scanned theres only really two outcomes, run away or try to take at least 1 or more down with you. As a scout you need the element of surprise for situations like this but once scanned you advantage is completely gone. And LOL that they would ever stop trying to know exactly where you are, people break that **** out in pubs sometimes just so they know where every single enemy is. |
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