Woah... woah lemme stop ya right there, partner. If you think that is the case, then you have a reality check coming your way.

The M/1 is still hard to fit in 1.8. Maxed skills are necessary, and depending on which way you tank with it- either CPU or PG will be stretched very thin.

i honestly dont see anything wrong with scout suits. i never brick tnak my gk.o. iam always that ass hole who comes ip from behind with a creoshotgun then dissapers behind a door way waiting for the preys unsuspecting squad mates.


scout have the health they need to barley survive. but should not reley on it. a scouts best ally is his FCKN powerful passive scans and abilltiy to stay hidden.

alot of qq scouts complain they cant take damage. a scout is not meant to be brick tanked or take damge. the scouts goal is to be silent,stealthy and be a fckn *******.

Have you specced fully into being a Scout in this game? A lot of the mechanics thus far, are wonky and don't really work. Especially, on some of the weapons we use such as Shotguns and N.K.. And you want to know what's a crazy myth? Hearing people talk about making videos on how to strafe in DUST 514 as simply an excuse on bad performance to aiming. But what do we know we're just Scout's who are bad players and bad performers.

Report after day 3:

- Still a very good suit. I have mostly run dual scrambler pistols, Creodron breach AR, Carthum assault scrambler rifle and some Boundless CR.

I have changed my fitting to be 349 armor, 160 shields, I put on a proto dampener.

- Best game was 33-1 with the CR, I redlined myself...
- I had several games with around 20 kills and 2-3 deaths with both the pistols and the breach ar.
- The pistols are probably the most fun way to play Dust IMO, I made a mental note of speccing into them later.
- I had forgotten what long effective range the A scr has while still being good in cqc.
- There is something magical happening, sometimes, when you combine a Creadron AR's hipfire with a scouts strafing. I was amazed after taking on several HMG fattys 1 vs 1 up front in CQC, it will be exciting to see after 1.8

The added stealth and speed more than makes up for reduced base stats and fitting IMO. On top of being versatile and capable in all I've tried it for so far, it comes with the added bonus of being much more fun to play.

Edit: I just remembered: Worst game was a 21-9 skirm we lost, and a 6-3 ambush we won.

So I did as I said, I skilled into galente scout, stuck 3 enhanced plates and a repper on it and combat rifled people. Went 25-8. Not bad for me, though not amazing considering it was a proto suit against mostly std and adv. Was a close game though so they weren't noobs. Also I had loads of fitting space left since I don't have a proto rifle, repper or nanohive.
I didnt feel like the strafing was great though, neither was the speed. Stealth, passive scan and stamina were good though. Ironically I found myself particularly vulnerable to shotgun min scouts.

Obviously I need to play more games but I don't think the suit was any better than an assault, which could probably do the job more effectively. I think the real conclusions are that rifles, armor tanking and the assault role are op compared to more stealth and speed play. Not that scouts are fine. The proto gelente scout does make a great stealth assault suit though. As would a cal assault with a dampener and a cardiac regulator. I normally play minmatar scout with a shotgun, a play style that is more distinct from assault and is slightly underpowered. This is the reason for the scout buff, not because scouts can't be light assaults.

You don't really need all of the hp if you play more carefully/strategically. The people who didn't brick tank the scout suits still seem to expect it to be on par with an assault or logi. I'm just generalizing what I've seen in threads or heard in conversations, but it really does seem like people just want a faster assault suit that gets bonus dampening. Anything less than that expectation is clearly UP to them.

I agree with the OP, scout suits were fine. You just had to use them differently to be successful. Because people QQ all the time about them, we'll soon be invisible. I'm still a little surprised that this actually happened, but I'm mostly annoyed. Now everyone and their moms can use the scout suit effectively like a regular Crysis assault suit.

Buff scouts + nerf scanners + increase TTK + cloaks = way too much for the scouts at one time = mistake.

Since I have minmatar scout I shield tank and put as many complex shield extenders as I can, while making sure I fit in the right weapons I prefer not to put any armor modules on my scout suit cause it takes the room I use for speed unless it's more of an assault fit.. The real issues for scouts are rail rifles and aim assist.. Rail rifles will catch you while you're sneaking around and just melt you and since mostly everyone uses aim assist they can make sure their shots land on you and poof dead