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Hakyou Brutor
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Posted - 2014.03.22 01:15:00 -
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:thesupertman wrote:The fray lock isn't that UP. I get kills with te standard version. I just think it needs a bigger splash area. just because you can get kills doesn't mean its not UP. i get kills with the LR and shotgun, does that mean that they are not UP?
The shotgun isn't underpowered...
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Hakyou Brutor
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Posted - 2014.03.22 01:18:00 -
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:Hakyou Brutor wrote:Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:thesupertman wrote:The fray lock isn't that UP. I get kills with te standard version. I just think it needs a bigger splash area. just because you can get kills doesn't mean its not UP. i get kills with the LR and shotgun, does that mean that they are not UP? The shotgun isn't underpowered... compared to rifles, yes it is. Lower DPS, much lower range, lower hit detection, and more accuracy required
No, I can kill rifle users all day. You just have to know when to approach someone and when to wait it out and let them stumble upon a shotgun shell to the back of the head.
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Hakyou Brutor
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Posted - 2014.03.22 01:26:00 -
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:
using an adv shotgun, i regularly go 12-20 and 3-7. using a basic combat rifle with no damage mods and only one level into it, i regularly go 25+ and 3-6
Okay? I've seen people use shotguns and go 40 plus kills with an adv shotgun. Just because the shotgun is a lot more situational doesn't mean it's underpowered.
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Hakyou Brutor
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Posted - 2014.03.22 01:32:00 -
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:Hakyou Brutor wrote:Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:
using an adv shotgun, i regularly go 12-20 and 3-7. using a basic combat rifle with no damage mods and only one level into it, i regularly go 25+ and 3-6
Okay? I've seen people use shotguns and go 40 plus kills with an adv shotgun. Just because the shotgun is a lot more situational doesn't mean it's underpowered. if its a lot more situational and has less reward in that situation, it is UP. and don't confuse skill with weapon capabilities
That's the thing, it has more rewards in those situations. Just today I killed seven guys in a row because they were crowded around the objective and I flanked around and killed them, they were all using rifles, two of them with rifles on heavy frames, oh yeah and I was in a standard suit with a standard shotgun too.
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Hakyou Brutor
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Posted - 2014.03.22 01:41:00 -
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:Hakyou Brutor wrote:Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:Hakyou Brutor wrote:Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:
using an adv shotgun, i regularly go 12-20 and 3-7. using a basic combat rifle with no damage mods and only one level into it, i regularly go 25+ and 3-6
Okay? I've seen people use shotguns and go 40 plus kills with an adv shotgun. Just because the shotgun is a lot more situational doesn't mean it's underpowered. if its a lot more situational and has less reward in that situation, it is UP. and don't confuse skill with weapon capabilities That's the thing, it has more rewards in those situations. Just today I killed seven guys in a row because they were crowded around the objective and I flanked around and killed them, they were all using rifles, two of them with rifles on heavy frames, oh yeah and I was in a standard suit with a standard shotgun too. cool story bro-you would've done better with a rifle. heavy frames require 2 head shots or 3 body shots to kill, so I'm assuming you had to reload at least twice also, playing against competent players generally makes it slightly more difficult, though i admit i have killed several big corp (team players, AE) with shotguns before and not died to their proto rifles. However, i would encourage a comparison between the combat rifle and shotgun-you may find what I'm saying to be true
No, I really wouldn't have done better with a rifle, they would have seen the hit, and where it came from, turned around and killed my paper suit. I needed a almost insta-kill weapon so I could keep my stealth, and yes! I did reload, but I would've had to reload at least three times with a rifle.
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Hakyou Brutor
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Posted - 2014.03.22 01:46:00 -
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:
whatever--we disagree about the shotgun. the real question is the flay lock. what do you think a good buff would be? (trying to keep this thread on topic)
Oh man, now that thing is underpowered! at least we can both agree on that. I think what you initially suggested would be nice, maybe a 10% bonus to damage instead of 5 though.
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