DUST Search - So... Scp nerf recovery of ROF should be the AMARS scouts 2nd bonus...

True Adamance wrote:

Joseph Ridgeson wrote:

Technically speaking, they did get two bonuses like everyone else. It is Stamina Regain and Stamina amount. If that is only counting as one, than Caldari also only got one as "Caldari just radar?" Not arguing the bonus isn't a bunch of bunk or at least extremely boring, it is, just that it is two bonuses.

I think it is a rough idea to give Scouts a way to kill people faster. The Nova Knife one is an odd exception but I assume it is getting grandfathered in and because the idea of Minja made CCP smile. If there is another Light Suit coming out and, hopefully, isn't the Pilot suit maybe it will be an Assassin suit. Two sidearms, faster weapon switch as an Assassin Skill per level blanket bonus, and some kind of DPS bonus for each racial variant possibly.

Okay so it is 2 bonuses....but the bonuses on other scouts are equivalent to more than 2 complex modules. The Amarr bonus is less than 1 milita module. Sure its a fitting modules, but stacked side to side the bonuses dont match up in terms of value.

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DEZKA DIABLO 0uter.Heaven 432	Posted - 2014.03.21 02:06:00 - [1] - Quote So caldari gets percision and range Minmatar knives and hacking Gallente profile dampening and range Amar just stamina? So the assault scp got a 43% ROF nerf that's totally garbage,so since all other scouts get 2 bonuses I say we found a second worthy bonus for amar of 5% rof per level. Yea or Nae?! Dead trigger master , an ya I do that ISH ON PURPOSE!
BigStuarty Endless Hatred Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 5	Posted - 2014.03.21 02:08:00 - [2] - Quote DEZKA DIABLO wrote: So caldari gets percision and range Minmatar knives and hacking Gallente profile dampening and range Amar just stamina? So the assault scp got a 43% ROF nerf that's totally garbage,so since all other scouts get 2 bonuses I say we found a second worthy bonus for amar of 5% rof per level. Yea or Nae?!
Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p 227	Posted - 2014.03.21 02:09:00 - [3] - Quote no. the amarr scout is fine as is. I have secret OP fit I'm gonna run with it in 1.8, and i don't want you all to make the amarr scout OP with ridiculous bonuses. No offense intended,but the only buff it needs is a 10% bonus to regen and 5% to max Kills-Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens League of Infamy 768	Posted - 2014.03.21 02:13:00 - [4] - Quote Technically speaking, they did get two bonuses like everyone else. It is Stamina Regain and Stamina amount. If that is only counting as one, than Caldari also only got one as "Caldari just radar?" Not arguing the bonus isn't a bunch of bunk or at least extremely boring, it is, just that it is two bonuses. I think it is a rough idea to give Scouts a way to kill people faster. The Nova Knife one is an odd exception but I assume it is getting grandfathered in and because the idea of Minja made CCP smile. If there is another Light Suit coming out and, hopefully, isn't the Pilot suit maybe it will be an Assassin suit. Two sidearms, faster weapon switch as an Assassin Skill per level blanket bonus, and some kind of DPS bonus for each racial variant possibly.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8551	Posted - 2014.03.21 02:15:00 - [5] - Quote Joseph Ridgeson wrote: Technically speaking, they did get two bonuses like everyone else. It is Stamina Regain and Stamina amount. If that is only counting as one, than Caldari also only got one as "Caldari just radar?" Not arguing the bonus isn't a bunch of bunk or at least extremely boring, it is, just that it is two bonuses. I think it is a rough idea to give Scouts a way to kill people faster. The Nova Knife one is an odd exception but I assume it is getting grandfathered in and because the idea of Minja made CCP smile. If there is another Light Suit coming out and, hopefully, isn't the Pilot suit maybe it will be an Assassin suit. Two sidearms, faster weapon switch as an Assassin Skill per level blanket bonus, and some kind of DPS bonus for each racial variant possibly. Okay so it is 2 bonuses....but the bonuses on other scouts are equivalent to more than 2 complex modules. The Amarr bonus is less than 1 milita module. Sure its a fitting modules, but stacked side to side the bonuses dont match up in terms of value. "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2776	Posted - 2014.03.21 02:16:00 - [6] - Quote Nooooooo. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens League of Infamy 768	Posted - 2014.03.21 02:17:00 - [7] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Joseph Ridgeson wrote: Technically speaking, they did get two bonuses like everyone else. It is Stamina Regain and Stamina amount. If that is only counting as one, than Caldari also only got one as "Caldari just radar?" Not arguing the bonus isn't a bunch of bunk or at least extremely boring, it is, just that it is two bonuses. I think it is a rough idea to give Scouts a way to kill people faster. The Nova Knife one is an odd exception but I assume it is getting grandfathered in and because the idea of Minja made CCP smile. If there is another Light Suit coming out and, hopefully, isn't the Pilot suit maybe it will be an Assassin suit. Two sidearms, faster weapon switch as an Assassin Skill per level blanket bonus, and some kind of DPS bonus for each racial variant possibly. Okay so it is 2 bonuses....but the bonuses on other scouts are equivalent to more than 2 complex modules. The Amarr bonus is less than 1 milita module. Sure its a fitting modules, but stacked side to side the bonuses dont match up in terms of value. As I said: it is a weak, boring bonus.
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 5156	Posted - 2014.03.21 02:18:00 - [8] - Quote Take your nerfs like a merc. cuddles flaylock Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
DEZKA DIABLO 0uter.Heaven 433	Posted - 2014.03.21 02:23:00 - [9] - Quote Im not on the amar bandwagon , I think the pistol nerf BULLSHYT is horrible, been the same for almost two yrs then they slide that in on a ninja nerf, I want my pistol back that's all. Amar scouts fine as is IMO Dead trigger master , an ya I do that ISH ON PURPOSE!
Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p 227	Posted - 2014.03.21 02:30:00 - [10] - Quote DEZKA DIABLO wrote: Im not on the amar bandwagon , I think the pistol nerf BULLSHYT is horrible, been the same for almost two yrs then they slide that in on a ninja nerf, I want my pistol back that's all. Amar scouts fine as is IMO once the flay lock gets buffed to usefulness, then maybe the ScP can get its rof back Kills-Archduke Ferdinand Balance!

True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8553	Posted - 2014.03.21 02:44:00 - [11] - Quote Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote: DEZKA DIABLO wrote: Im not on the amar bandwagon , I think the pistol nerf BULLSHYT is horrible, been the same for almost two yrs then they slide that in on a ninja nerf, I want my pistol back that's all. Amar scouts fine as is IMO once the flay lock gets buffed to usefulness, then maybe the ScP can get its rof back That'd be awesome. I never really used it but I remember it having entertaining mechanics. "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two
Magnus Amadeuss Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 607	Posted - 2014.03.21 02:46:00 - [12] - Quote BigStuarty wrote: DEZKA DIABLO wrote: So caldari gets percision and range Minmatar knives and hacking Gallente profile dampening and range Amar just stamina? So the assault scp got a 43% ROF nerf that's totally garbage,so since all other scouts get 2 bonuses I say we found a second worthy bonus for amar of 5% rof per level. Yea or Nae?! Does the amarr scout start with seriously more amour ... which would be irrelevant anyway as its all one shot under 300hp Does anyone have any idea when this line of crap he is spouting will stop being repeated? I am getting sick and tired of saying the exact same thing over and over. While there is no better place to be wealthy than the Gallente Federation, there is no hell worse for the poor either.
Matticus Monk Ordus Trismegistus 1481	Posted - 2014.03.21 02:47:00 - [13] - Quote I think it's too much, honestly. In that case using a pistol with any other suit is just plain silly.... unlike the NK's, which can be effectively used with another scout suit due to their much higher alpha damage, charge-up, etc.... (admittedly, they are way better with the Minmatar but I don't think it's quite the same situation as what you are suggesting). As much as I want better ROF on the scrambler pistol, I'd prefer that CCP not go about it this way. Double posting like a Kaiser.
Magnus Amadeuss Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 607	Posted - 2014.03.21 02:49:00 - [14] - Quote Joseph Ridgeson wrote: Technically speaking, they did get two bonuses like everyone else. It is Stamina Regain and Stamina amount. If that is only counting as one, than Caldari also only got one as "Caldari just radar?" Not arguing the bonus isn't a bunch of bunk or at least extremely boring, it is, just that it is two bonuses. I think it is a rough idea to give Scouts a way to kill people faster. The Nova Knife one is an odd exception but I assume it is getting grandfathered in and because the idea of Minja made CCP smile. If there is another Light Suit coming out and, hopefully, isn't the Pilot suit maybe it will be an Assassin suit. Two sidearms, faster weapon switch as an Assassin Skill per level blanket bonus, and some kind of DPS bonus for each racial variant possibly. Not really. Here is why: Mods to increase precision and scan range? 2 Mods to increase stamina and stamina regen? 1 Therefor, they are more or less combined into ONE bonus. While there is no better place to be wealthy than the Gallente Federation, there is no hell worse for the poor either.
DJINN Marauder Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 4688	Posted - 2014.03.21 02:50:00 - [15] - Quote I'd prefer a clip size bonus personally GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢ Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà Forum Warrior LV. 5 \| Warframe is awesome! \| PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-DAY
Bojo The Mighty L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 3580	Posted - 2014.03.21 02:56:00 - [16] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: Absolutely not I would hate to see scrambler pistol duels devolve into a suit and tie occasion allowing the winner to be determined by the suit they wear 68 inches above sea level...
Faquira Bleuetta Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 301	Posted - 2014.03.21 02:57:00 - [17] - Quote amarr scout need this epic buff (n+ëGèÖGÇ+GèÖ)n+ën+PpÇÄG£º~TEARS~G£ºpÇÅ 1.8 Laser rifle buff faq will be back to melt all ur sorry ass the good ol chromosomes days.
Aria Gomes R 0 N 1 N 315	Posted - 2014.03.21 03:15:00 - [18] - Quote Why did they nerf pistols of all things to randomly nerf? I was just getting really good at just pistol and knives. :\| Got damnit.
Ivy Zalinto Bobbit's Hangmen 335	Posted - 2014.03.21 03:23:00 - [19] - Quote Honestly I have no clue what I'm going to use as a scout now...I used pretty much exclusively pistols and its kinda sad that they got hit so hard. Nearly 50% rate of fire nerf on the one thats supposed to actually have good rate of fire...breaches are just kinda...unreliable. Idk, this patch has a lot of good things going for it to me but thats just a kick in the teeth... Dedicated Stealth Scout. Scout instructor; Learning Coalition Sidearms are terribly underestimated.
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 5163	Posted - 2014.03.21 03:26:00 - [20] - Quote Aria Gomes wrote: Why did they nerf pistols of all things to randomly nerf? I was just getting really good at just pistol and knives. :\| Got damnit. did you really want to see everyone and their mother use your precious SCP as the next FOTM? As Matari I can assure you nothing good comes from that..... Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 STB-Infantry (Demolition)

Faquira Bleuetta Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 301	Posted - 2014.03.21 03:35:00 - [21] - Quote i think its fine that the amarr scout sux i mean each game of watever genre have his joke Char,weapon,item...... (n+ëGèÖGÇ+GèÖ)n+ën+PpÇÄG£º~TEARS~G£ºpÇÅ 1.8 Laser rifle buff faq will be back to melt all ur sorry ass the good ol chromosomes days.
DEZKA DIABLO 0uter.Heaven 436	Posted - 2014.03.21 05:17:00 - [22] - Quote Dear god, makes thread for scouts to back our pistol, gets stupid responses............ FACEPALM=EPIC FAIL Totally disappointed Dead trigger master , an ya I do that ISH ON PURPOSE!
SPESHULz The Southern Legion 59	Posted - 2014.03.21 06:14:00 - [23] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Take your nerfs like a merc. cuddles flaylock Take your nerfs like a merc Cuddles Sentinel The shotgun is getting a Rof nerf. The Scp is getting a Rof adjustment to prevent turbo controller abuse. Blood flows. Death comes. War rages Maths is OP. Those numbers kill you RedLineLove
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1594	Posted - 2014.03.21 06:26:00 - [24] - Quote BigStuarty wrote: DEZKA DIABLO wrote: So caldari gets percision and range Minmatar knives and hacking Gallente profile dampening and range Amar just stamina? So the assault scp got a 43% ROF nerf that's totally garbage,so since all other scouts get 2 bonuses I say we found a second worthy bonus for amar of 5% rof per level. Yea or Nae?! Does the amarr scout start with seriously more amour ... which would be irrelevant anyway as its all one shot under 300hp Scouts are a out speed. Other scouts use biotics mods. Since the Amarr scout has a built in speed capability then it is free to use other mods. Armor plates can be part of that in keeping with Amarr combat philosophy. Think about it. You get the plates which slow speed and get still get a near constant sprint. "Stay stealthy scouts." GÇô Ron Burgundy
Nocturnal Soul Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2417	Posted - 2014.03.21 07:18:00 - [25] - Quote I'd love to have that as a bonus now. Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1316	Posted - 2014.03.21 08:02:00 - [26] - Quote Matticus Monk wrote: I think it's too much, honestly. In that case using a pistol with any other suit is just plain silly.... unlike the NK's, which can be effectively used with another scout suit due to their much higher alpha damage, charge-up, etc.... (admittedly, they are way better with the Minmatar but I don't think it's quite the same situation as what you are suggesting). As much as I want better ROF on the scrambler pistol, I'd prefer that CCP not go about it this way. Agreed, it is different for the NK's because they have literally no range. There is no whipping out from behind a corner and hosing someone down with with a NK. There's also no crazy headshot multiplier for the NK's. Pistol users will just have to adapt to the new RoF and get used to not being able to hip-fire spam R1 to get easy headshots with the TT3. Whixh is a shame, I still have 203 TT3's left in my inventory..... MAG ~ Raven
Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1316	Posted - 2014.03.21 08:06:00 - [27] - Quote SPESHULz wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: Take your nerfs like a merc. cuddles flaylock Take your nerfs like a merc Cuddles Sentinel The shotgun is getting a Rof nerf. The Scp is getting a Rof adjustment to prevent turbo controller abuse. In what way is the sentinel being nerfed? I must have missed that.... MAG ~ Raven
Skullmiser Vulcansu the third day Galactic Skyfleet Empire 72	Posted - 2014.03.27 17:12:00 - [28] - Quote I would give up all of my lifetime SP for the rate of fire for the scrambler pistol to be restored. If this game was fun, I wouldn't be playing it.
Skullmiser Vulcansu the third day Galactic Skyfleet Empire 75	Posted - 2014.03.27 23:24:00 - [29] - Quote SPESHULz wrote: The Scp is getting a Rof adjustment to prevent turbo controller abuse. That's bullshit, or else they would have done the same thing to the scrambler rifle. If this game was fun, I wouldn't be playing it.


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