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Malkai Inos
Onikanabo Brigade
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Posted - 2014.03.20 22:58:00 -
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At least seperate it from your content somehow.
Link this OP +á la "click or strawman" for example. Similar effect, less clutter.
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Malkai Inos
Onikanabo Brigade
Caldari State
1288
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Posted - 2014.03.20 23:15:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:I know...It looks cleaner but doesn't have the same in your face feel that I was going for. Well, you now have a thread to effectively monitor clicks with.
Next step is to experiment with different link text and stick with the one that generates the most clicks. Yay internet marketing.
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Malkai Inos
Onikanabo Brigade
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.03.20 23:28:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:No.
Your posting trends to being a CCP can do no wrong fanatic.
Thus.
When you now post wanting a constructive debate then is it any wonder when the first thing in most folks minds is:
The Robot Devil? phhht! CCP rah rah boy so why bother?
In other words being a jerk in the past returns to bite you in the rear.
Tigers and stripes, tigers and stripes. Gone are the times where you could expect your arguments to be evaluated on their own merits indeed...
Screw the link, Robot. Make that thing bold and italic.
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Malkai Inos
Onikanabo Brigade
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.03.21 00:40:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:
No.
Two years ago, TWO YEARS ago!! at the start of Closed Beta I did a thread asking about a vehicle free game mode or at least some infantry trenches.
Got some Blue responses and, and, and....NOTHING done about this.
But hey!!
Dev1: what we got?
Dev2: theres hundreds of threads with thousands of likes asking about new suits, weapons, maps, game modes,
Dev1: meh! what else?
Dev2: um theres a single post with no likes asking about new supply depos.
Dev1: Holy Mother of Kittens!! get on that!! right the MEOW! now!!
And we got retooled supply depos.
Repeat for reducing the scout passive scan from 20m to 16m
Repeat for turning the sexy female clone walk into a Terminator walk.
We see an arrogant and lazy developer.
Case in point the year old artwork for new suits.
Its a lack of dedication and focus.
Its a case of Ay se va meaning eh!! ship it anyway regardless of faults.
Add in a lack of transparency AKA posting a patch note after content lock when theres no way to modify the patch contents.
Changes done that show that the playerbase is really not consulted on gameplay changes:
Where were the DEV posts about vehicle mods changes??, AV changes??
When a proper form was: DEV thread : we are considering reducing grenades from 3 down to 2 :
Please post if you think its a good idea or a bad idea.
And right now not even a single post about vehicle fixes in 1.8??
Hey I love Dust 514 but I am no rah rah boy so a lot of us are at the point of just waiting for June/July to participate in the great PS4 migration.
I'd totally and vehemently disagree with an infantry only mode. What you consider as evidence of an arrogant and lazy developer, I view as the absolutely right decision and true to their original concept in this particular case.
It goes without saying that I agree on quite a few of those points, but you seem to not properly seperate what you want, what the "community" wants, what ccp wants, and what is actually doable(and in what timeframe) as independant, coexisting entities which, when reconciliated, might not entirely please one or all of them.
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Malkai Inos
Onikanabo Brigade
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.03.21 01:44:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:Malkai Inos wrote:I'd totally and vehemently disagree with an infantry only mode. What you consider as evidence of an arrogant and lazy developer, I view as the absolutely right decision and true to their original concept in this particular case.
It goes without saying that I agree on quite a few of those points, but you seem to not properly seperate what you want, what the "community" wants, what ccp wants, and what is actually doable(and in what timeframe) as independant, coexisting entities which, when reconciliated, might not entirely please one or all of them.
All they would have to do is use a medium socket with no way out and call it an underground bunker or cave and let us fight without vehicles, we should be able to get away from vehicles but it should be in rotation and not a map that we can select just to make it easier on us. He is correct we do need a vehicle free map but you are just as correct when you say that his listed examples are not evidence that we are not listened to. Again i'd disagree with the map part. No playstyle should ever be completely safe from another.*
Large urban parts in maps where vehicles cannot utilize their superior force projection to contrast the open areas where they can? Yes. All maps are sorely lacking in that regard. Whole maps where an entire playstyle (vehicles are a completely different approach to the game, not some gimmick like in most other games) is effectively excluded from participating? A whole mode even? No. Absolutely not.
But the specific reasons for our disagreement are besides the point anyways. The important part is that we as a community do, in fact, disagree with each other on some fundamental topics and we do it all the time while we're at it. Forgetting this leads to frustration when CCP doesn't engage seemingly "simple", "clear" problems the way one or the other expects them to.
*I ignore infantry/vehicle balance issues for the sake of the argument because it's, despite going on for too long already, temporary.
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Malkai Inos
Onikanabo Brigade
Caldari State
1289
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Posted - 2014.03.21 01:47:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:Listening to us is not the same as doing what we say. I listen to my kids but I don't always do what they want, I am not ignoring them but they don't always see the big picture. I guess I have to go back to using the disclaimer already. Do your kids pay your paycheck? They probably will once he retires.
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