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lAssassinl Zer0
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.03.20 16:47:00 -
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With new roles lot of SP became totally USELESS, totally not used. For me it's about 12/14 million SP that is going to burn uselessly (70% of my SP). (Logi equipements / Minmatarr weapons and Sidearm while i'm going to Amarr Commando, Full Amarr Stuff.) 
At least give me the opportunity to transform it into something else.
I understand you don't want a full respec to avoid, full stuff warriors throught the whole game, avoid FOTM, and learning to player to spend their SP with caution BUT i got a solution to that :
Making us able respec on a each skillbook. allowing you to save only 25% of the SP spend into THIS skill. (Not tree, but only this skill, ISK are not refunded)
a "skill" is per example :
-Proficiencies
-Operation (to use weapon)
-Armor repair.
-There's one skill for each equipements (exclude Nano which up nanite injecor AND nanohives)
etcetc....
We need the ability to be able to respec EACH skill as we want BUT only 25% of the SP invested on this skill AND no ISK refund.
AND a free (which give 100% of SP) refund on dropsuit command (only one) as you decided previously.
Exemple :
If i've spend 10 million into equipement and i want to respec it it would give me 2.5 unallocated SP. (the 7.5 other are lost.)
I must respec each equipement skill one by one losing 75% of the SP invested in each of them.
It gives the opportunity to change roles BUT with a penality, you can't just "swap" roles and be as powerful than before. It avoid FoTM.
And to be honest you changed all the rules, not really our fault.....We deserved an option like this.
Guys what do you think ? Give real opinion not just "It suckz loool". |
Viktor Hadah Jr
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Posted - 2014.03.20 16:49:00 -
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If you want your skills to remain useful spec back into that role you were playing before 1.8 if you want to use the respec to change roles that call is on you and you will need to deal with the consequences
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lAssassinl Zer0
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
11
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Posted - 2014.03.20 16:55:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:If you want your skills to remain useful spec back into that role you were playing before 1.8 if you want to use the respec to change roles that call is on you and you will need to deal with the consequences
My role i was playing pre-1.8 is no longer viable, and can't be used anymore.
And i'm logi since a year and a half, i'm getting tired of it, tired of this yellow crap.
"deal with the consequences" => It is my fault ? NO.
Actually it rewards Slayer logi that never spend a single SP into equipements and penalizes logi that have spend SP into equipements....
1.8 is supposed to be the only moment you can change role.
Actually we can't. When are we suppose to do it then?
Are we supposed to keep role and just buy tanks because we don't play this orle naymore ? It is the ONLY SOLUTION ? If for you it is. Then this game is doomed. |
DeeJay One
Guardian Solutions
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.03.20 17:02:00 -
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lAssassinl Zer0 wrote:
1.8 is supposed to be the only moment you can change role.
Actually we can't. When are we suppose to do it then?
Any time - there's no absolute skill cap. You can HTFU by using lower tier weapons/suits instead of going full proto from day 1. |
Viktor Hadah Jr
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Posted - 2014.03.20 17:03:00 -
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lAssassinl Zer0 wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:If you want your skills to remain useful spec back into that role you were playing before 1.8 if you want to use the respec to change roles that call is on you and you will need to deal with the consequences My role i was playing pre-1.8 is no longer viable, and can't be used anymore. And i'm logi since a year and a half, i'm getting tired of it, tired of this yellow crap. "deal with the consequences" => It is my fault ? NO. Actually it rewards Slayer logi that never spend a single SP into equipements and penalizes logi that have spend SP into equipements.... 1.8 is supposed to be the only moment you can change role. Actually we can't. When are we suppose to do it then? Are we supposed to keep role and just buy tanks because we don't play this orle naymore ? It is the ONLY SOLUTION ? If for you it is. Then this game is doomed. Oh and...what you say is pretty easy for oyu. For most of you, you don't give a ****, after all modules like armor etcetc / Damager is still viable on any suit. But for Logi what happen ? Oh and....Once they maded these "respec" my alt will have more SP (which i never play) than my main.....so it means it actually reward people that don't play....and penalize people that...play ? WTF ?
1.8 respec was not targeted for you to change roles, it was made for you to changes races if you wanted to.
My I only have two equipment skills not at level 5 and you don't see me b*tching. Just because they are balancing equipment does not make in useless.
Right now if I am tired of my assault suit I can train into scout and play that. Not sure why everyone thinks they can only play one role.
After 1.8 spec back into logi then train into another suit, then you will be able to use logi and whatever other suit you want.
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lAssassinl Zer0
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
11
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Posted - 2014.03.20 17:08:00 -
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DeeJay One wrote:lAssassinl Zer0 wrote:
1.8 is supposed to be the only moment you can change role.
Actually we can't. When are we suppose to do it then?
Any time - there's no absolute skill cap. You can HTFU by using lower tier weapons/suits instead of going full proto from day 1.
As i said 25% respec prevent that....did you EVER READ ?????
You talk like i was asking full repsec.....
I juste HATE to see all those SP.....useless i'd prefered to see them erased. But not for nothing.
Oh and.....I will play with my alt, i'll go Full proto from day 1 play the FotM and burn little kids.
Nah seriously guys you think than us asking a respec are pure bad evil bitches who just want to FoTM day after day ?
Rethink then...at the contrary we are tired of all this ****. Tired to see always the SAME THING since 2 years.
We just wants changements......Stop thinking we just want to stomp....Actually i'm full protogear in every part.....but play with my Advanced gear......Stop thinking we're all evil.
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lAssassinl Zer0
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
12
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Posted - 2014.03.20 17:14:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:lAssassinl Zer0 wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:If you want your skills to remain useful spec back into that role you were playing before 1.8 if you want to use the respec to change roles that call is on you and you will need to deal with the consequences My role i was playing pre-1.8 is no longer viable, and can't be used anymore. And i'm logi since a year and a half, i'm getting tired of it, tired of this yellow crap. "deal with the consequences" => It is my fault ? NO. Actually it rewards Slayer logi that never spend a single SP into equipements and penalizes logi that have spend SP into equipements.... 1.8 is supposed to be the only moment you can change role. Actually we can't. When are we suppose to do it then? Are we supposed to keep role and just buy tanks because we don't play this orle naymore ? It is the ONLY SOLUTION ? If for you it is. Then this game is doomed. Oh and...what you say is pretty easy for oyu. For most of you, you don't give a ****, after all modules like armor etcetc / Damager is still viable on any suit. But for Logi what happen ? Oh and....Once they maded these "respec" my alt will have more SP (which i never play) than my main.....so it means it actually reward people that don't play....and penalize people that...play ? WTF ? 1.8 respec was not targeted for you to change roles, it was made for you to changes races if you wanted to. I only have two equipment skills not at level 5 and you don't see me b*tching. Just because they are balancing equipment does not make in useless. Right now if I am tired of my assault suit I can train into scout and play that. Not sure why everyone thinks they can only play one role. After 1.8 spec back into logi then train into another suit, then you will be able to use logi and whatever other suit you want.
But me i have 5. And this is 50 % of my SP.
Yes they makes them useless if you're not Logi.
You think i'm gonna Rep with a commando ???? "you think you're safe ? in fact no" You think i'm gonna set spawns with a Commando ? Enjoy the 25sec spawn *****....... You think i'm gonna ressuply people with my command o?????
As i said with the Logi changements, my role is no longer viable, impossible, even if i spec as before it will be OVER.
So...you say than the game is over for me because i can't do as before and can't go to future? Okay.....sad.
As yo usaid it was supposed to be ble to change races....HOW are we supposed to hcange races ?
And even.....Roles between races has changed.....I was Hp-regen into my Amarr fit, no they swapped with gallente....
They changed EVERYTHING.
This is the damn full racial line up...... Each race are diffrent. |
Viktor Hadah Jr
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Posted - 2014.03.20 17:25:00 -
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Your not going to do all that stuff as commando but you can skill back into logi and keep using your equipment with logi.
If you are also interested in commando just spec into That also.
Just like pre1.8 if I play logi and want to play scout I will just skill into scout and retain all my logi skills and will have to newly skill into scout skills.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
7523
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Posted - 2014.03.20 17:30:00 -
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In Eve Online, they just recently changed the bonuses of a lot of frigates in that game. The Rifter for example no longer has a bonus to projectile turret rate of fire. It now has a bonus to projectile turret falloff instead. Guess what. None of the Eve Online players asked for a respec on a game that is 11 years old. The last time they ever had any respec was back in 2003 just after their official launch and that was it.
You could say that Dust and Eve are two different games on two different platforms, but they are both set in the same culture, server, and universe as that of Eve Online. We call this universe New Eden and here are its rules. No, there is no official page stating these rules. This just so happens to be the norm in New Eden by general consensus.
1. Adapt or Die.
2. Don't use what you can't afford to lose.
3. Accept the consequences of your choices.
As I pointed out in the other thread that you have, I have no problem with respecs as long as they are ONLY as needed as a result of an overhaul. And again, I am of the opinion that we should have gotten a partial respec of the weaponry skill tree. But considering the fact that we just had a #MillionCloneChallenge that awarded participants with 2-3 million FREE SP and now we're getting a new event that will net us an extra 750,000 SP, I am not one to complain.
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