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Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1310	Posted - 2014.03.20 11:59:00 - [1] - Quote Is it 100%/100%? And what type of damage does it count as? I'd like to know, my plans for 1.8 are hinging on the answer.... MAG ~ Raven
COVERT SUBTERFUGE PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY 686	Posted - 2014.03.20 12:27:00 - [2] - Quote Baal Omniscient wrote: Is it 100%/100%? And what type of damage does it count as? I'd like to know, my plans for 1.8 are hinging on the answer.... AFAIK it's flat damage, no strengths or weaknesses to armor or shield. Proud Minmatar scout - Republic Merc 6/10 Immune to bitter/jaded vet syndrome Roll with the punches instead of QQing
Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1311	Posted - 2014.03.20 12:47:00 - [3] - Quote COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote: Baal Omniscient wrote: Is it 100%/100%? And what type of damage does it count as? I'd like to know, my plans for 1.8 are hinging on the answer.... AFAIK it's flat damage, no strengths or weaknesses to armor or shield. Any ideas on damage type as it pertains to the new sentinel resistances? MAG ~ Raven
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 1808	Posted - 2014.03.20 12:50:00 - [4] - Quote It's 90% shields 110% armor. Not that it matters since you can OHK ANY medium or light.
COVERT SUBTERFUGE PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY 688	Posted - 2014.03.20 12:53:00 - [5] - Quote Baal Omniscient wrote: COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote: Baal Omniscient wrote: Is it 100%/100%? And what type of damage does it count as? I'd like to know, my plans for 1.8 are hinging on the answer.... AFAIK it's flat damage, no strengths or weaknesses to armor or shield. Any ideas on damage type as it pertains to the new sentinel resistances? I don't think there is any resistance for Sentinels. At least this is what I assumed from seeing people say NKs will be 'the bane of Sentinels'. Someone else is bound to clarify this but in my mind they are akin to non elemental damage in fantasy MMOs; that spell that wrecks all foes because it's not debuffed by their various resistances. Proud Minmatar scout - Republic Merc 6/10 Immune to bitter/jaded vet syndrome Roll with the punches instead of QQing
Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1311	Posted - 2014.03.20 12:55:00 - [6] - Quote Joel II X wrote: It's 90% shields 110% armor. Not that it matters since you can OHK ANY medium or light. Not any.... well.... not yet anyway, I'm only proficiency 2. I still run into the occasional dual-tanked non-minnie assault that I've gotta double tap. MAG ~ Raven
COVERT SUBTERFUGE PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY 688	Posted - 2014.03.20 12:56:00 - [7] - Quote Joel II X wrote: It's 90% shields 110% armor. Not that it matters since you can OHK ANY medium or light. I saw: Quote: The second change we made is to the weapon proficiency skills. At the moment, they give a flat bonus to damage with a specific weapon. With Uprising 1.8 these bonuses are being changed, and will only give a bonus to attacking either shields or armor. This applies to all weapons other than the Nova Knife (which retains the damage bonus). HereGÇÖs the breakdown of the new bonuses. In the dev blog and assumed it had a flat bonus. Is the flat bonus damage just to the 15% proficiency bonus then? Proud Minmatar scout - Republic Merc 6/10 Immune to bitter/jaded vet syndrome Roll with the punches instead of QQing
ResistanceGTA D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 593	Posted - 2014.03.20 12:58:00 - [8] - Quote COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote: Joel II X wrote: It's 90% shields 110% armor. Not that it matters since you can OHK ANY medium or light. I saw: Quote: The second change we made is to the weapon proficiency skills. At the moment, they give a flat bonus to damage with a specific weapon. With Uprising 1.8 these bonuses are being changed, and will only give a bonus to attacking either shields or armor. This applies to all weapons other than the Nova Knife (which retains the damage bonus). HereGÇÖs the breakdown of the new bonuses. In the dev blog and assumed it had a flat bonus. Is the flat bonus damage just to the 15% proficiency bonus then? Where is cat Merc, he could look that up in a jiffy.. xSivartx is my Heavy. There are many like him, but he is my own... So, other Logi's back off, those are my Warpoints!
Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1311	Posted - 2014.03.20 13:03:00 - [9] - Quote COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote: Baal Omniscient wrote: COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote: Baal Omniscient wrote: Is it 100%/100%? And what type of damage does it count as? I'd like to know, my plans for 1.8 are hinging on the answer.... AFAIK it's flat damage, no strengths or weaknesses to armor or shield. Any ideas on damage type as it pertains to the new sentinel resistances? I don't think there is any resistance for Sentinels. At least this is what I assumed from seeing people say NKs will be 'the bane of Sentinels'. Someone else is bound to clarify this but in my mind they are akin to non elemental damage in fantasy MMOs; that spell that wrecks all foes because it's not debuffed by their various resistances. Since shotties are going to be doing 15% more shield damage per shot (I'm predicting a LOAD of shield heavy QQ over getting 2 shotted by shotguns ), I think they will be the bane of Cal/Min heavies still since you don't have to get quite as close with them as you do with knives. But if the knives are 90/110 then that Amarr & Gallente heavy are going to need knives after them. I'm basically doing prep work with this post since I'm guessing that at least 75% of the FOTM chasers will race for the Heavies since running a scout actually requires you to use your brain. I wanna help lead the charge on denying them every kill we possibly can. MAG ~ Raven
Sana Rayya WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 1134	Posted - 2014.03.20 13:28:00 - [10] - Quote It does the same damage to shields and armor. Anyone who tells you different is going by hearsay and hasn't tested it in game. As far as I know, it will not be affected by sentinel resistances. Nova Knife Damage Explained

Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1312	Posted - 2014.03.20 13:43:00 - [11] - Quote Sana Rayya wrote: It does the same damage to shields and armor. Anyone who tells you different is going by hearsay and hasn't tested it in game. As far as I know, it will not be affected by sentinel resistances. Nova Knife Damage Explained +1 million! Very helpful, thank you. Query: Now that we know damage mods are going to be changed, and therefore triple stacking them is pointless (even double stacking is kind of a bad idea...) What is the damage dealt with 2x Complex damage mods in 1.8? Also, since the damage is marked as 90 but you deal 102 per blade connect (204 total), wouldn't that mean there is a 13.3-»% damage bonus to both shields and armor? Or, to put it another way, perhaps CCP needs to learn how to update damage numbers on the items in-game lol MAG ~ Raven
jhon hartigan Maphia Clan Corporation 243	Posted - 2014.03.20 13:51:00 - [12] - Quote Sana Rayya wrote: It does the same damage to shields and armor. Anyone who tells you different is going by hearsay and hasn't tested it in game. As far as I know, it will not be affected by sentinel resistances. Nova Knife Damage Explained I m quite sure you re wrong, they are hybrid plasma weapons so the have a +10%Vs shield and - 10% Vs armor, caldari and minmatar sentinels will have a resistance against them
Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1312	Posted - 2014.03.20 14:07:00 - [13] - Quote jhon hartigan wrote: Sana Rayya wrote: It does the same damage to shields and armor. Anyone who tells you different is going by hearsay and hasn't tested it in game. As far as I know, it will not be affected by sentinel resistances. Nova Knife Damage Explained I m quite sure you re wrong, they are hybrid plasma weapons so the have a +10%Vs shield and - 10% Vs armor, caldari and minmatar sentinels will have a resistance against them I just checked the displayed efficiency rating when targeting someone's shields and it's 100%, so Sana is correct there at least. MAG ~ Raven
Sana Rayya WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 1136	Posted - 2014.03.20 14:13:00 - [14] - Quote Yeah, CCP is just bad at listing the damage in game for some reason. You could say that they had a 1.13333 damage bonus when uncharged but it'd get complicated when calculating the charge swipe, since it'd be 90 * 1.13333 * 2.2 to get the charge swipe bonus damage, times two, for the full damage of two hits. I found it easier to simplify to 2.2666x and 4.9777x, where x is the base damage per knife. I updated my original post, as in 1.8 there's no way to get enough damage to OHK heavies so might as well not try. The good part is that passively, it's fairly easy to reach 262 HP damage per knife, which is the amount required to OHK any medium or light and 2HK (one charge and one regular swipe) any heavy. So you can use your high slots for shields or whatever.


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