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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust.
Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.03.20 07:31:00 -
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ADV Assault Plasma Cannon ( http://www.stuff514.com/sde/type/363843 )
- No projectile drop
- 4.2 m blast radius
- 4050.0 projectile speed (40.5 m/s?)
- 299.25 splash damage.
- 385.875 direct damage.
ADV Plasma cannon ( http://www.stuff514.com/sde/type/363833 )
- No projectile drop
- 3.3 m blast radius
- 4050.0 projectile speed
- 299.25 splash damage
- Direct hit damage 1102.5
ADV Breach Plasma cannon ( http://www.stuff514.com/sde/type/363844 )
- Projectile drop
- 3250.0 speed (slower than above)
- 299.25 splash damage
- Direct hit damage 1411.2
- 1.4 m blast radius
Did CCP listen to the community?! 
Edit: Assault plasma cannon has no info about clip size, so possibly it could have 2-3 shots in clip (or a burst of 3 shots), if you compare the total damage per clip with the regular variant.
Drop it like its hat.
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Christiphoros von Poe
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2014.03.20 07:33:00 -
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Finally!
(1) "Exile" Assault Rifle reserved for: Fire of Prometheus
Uprising->Replication->E3->Codex->Chromosome->Uprising->???
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Logi Bro
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
3036
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Posted - 2014.03.20 07:33:00 -
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385 direct damage? That has got to be a joke, it wouldn't even be useful for AI, let alone as AV.
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Christiphoros von Poe
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2014.03.20 07:34:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:385 direct damage? That has got to be a joke, it wouldn't even be useful for AI, let alone as AV.
Unless it has a larger clip then 1 shot...
(1) "Exile" Assault Rifle reserved for: Fire of Prometheus
Uprising->Replication->E3->Codex->Chromosome->Uprising->???
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust.
Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.03.20 07:36:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:385 direct damage? That has got to be a joke, it wouldn't even be useful for AI, let alone as AV.
It says nothing about clip size.
1100 (regular variant)/385 (assault variant) = 2.8
So the assault plasma cannon is predicted to have 2-3 shots in clip, or a burst of 2-3 shots.
Drop it like its hat.
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Kosakai
ZionTCD
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Posted - 2014.03.20 07:36:00 -
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Christiphoros von Poe wrote:Logi Bro wrote:385 direct damage? That has got to be a joke, it wouldn't even be useful for AI, let alone as AV. Unless it has a larger clip then 1 shot...
heh.. maybe 6 
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust.
Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.03.20 07:37:00 -
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Christiphoros von Poe wrote:Logi Bro wrote:385 direct damage? That has got to be a joke, it wouldn't even be useful for AI, let alone as AV. Unless it has a larger clip then 1 shot...
Damn, you-¦re faster than me!
Drop it like its hat.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
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Posted - 2014.03.20 07:37:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:385 direct damage? That has got to be a joke, it wouldn't even be useful for AI, let alone as AV.
Well, I know a lot of people stack damage so that they can oneshot lightly tanked suits with splash?
And maybe it has a magazine greater than one.
But based on the stats we have, yeah, that's underwhelming.
Although I had a panic attack for a moment there; I thought the breach was dealing 3250 damage O.O
That could oneshot my Gunny...
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
5206
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Posted - 2014.03.20 07:40:00 -
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*wets himself*
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust.
Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.03.20 07:43:00 -
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If the assault plasma cannon has 3 shots in the clip.... It will be a uber mass driver... Oh my..
Drop it like its hat.
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Arx Ardashir
Imperium Aeternum
681
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Posted - 2014.03.20 07:46:00 -
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Those are mass driver stats. The MD in 1.8 will be doing like 325 direct damage and unless the radius changes, will have a 4.0 blast radius. And that gets six shots.
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Ekrano Fergus
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
38
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Posted - 2014.03.20 07:47:00 -
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http://www.stuff514.com/sde/type/363776
The things you can find hidden away.
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
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Posted - 2014.03.20 07:49:00 -
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Ekrano Fergus wrote:http://www.stuff514.com/sde/type/363776
The things you can find hidden away.
A fkaylock so what?
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust.
Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.03.20 07:49:00 -
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Arx Ardashir wrote:Those are mass driver stats. The MD in 1.8 will be doing like 325 direct damage and unless the radius changes, will have a 4.0 blast radius. And that gets six shots.
Perhaps PLC will have a few shots less (4-5?), but behave similarly to the MD. With the charge mechanic of course. Hell, perhaps that could motivate 6 shots with higher damage. I hope PLC become viable again in the fanfest expansion.
Drop it like its hat.
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The Robot Devil
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
2055
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Posted - 2014.03.20 09:11:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:Logi Bro wrote:385 direct damage? That has got to be a joke, it wouldn't even be useful for AI, let alone as AV. It says nothing about clip size. 1100 (regular variant)/385 (assault variant) = 2.8 So the assault plasma cannon is predicted to have 2-3 shots in clip, or a burst of 2-3 shots.
I know this isn't EVE. I am not stating that AV/vehicles are balanced. I understand there is a problem with AV. I understand that you think CCP doesn't listen or know how to balance things. I understand that you may believe that another patch may not come for a year. I know that the game has problems. I am not trying to say anything about balance, timely releases, quality of released content, competence of CCP or players or anything other than the following:
I think the burst of 2-3 shots is the way to go. I use the PLC and there are times when I feel like the burst option would be the best but in some situations I would prefer a high damage single shot. I have said more than once that I would take a multi shot burst over more in the chamber. I want a PLC with more in the chamber but the burst is more interesting to me.
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Auris Lionesse
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Renegade Alliance
480
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Posted - 2014.03.20 09:18:00 -
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Plasma cannon needs to do at least 2500 damage with how slow it fires and how much ammo you get.
Forge does more damage, fires faster and has a clipwith ridiculous accuracy and range and projectile speed.
This is a pleasant change. Id rather have a 6 round assault plasma cannon clip though than burst fire, lol at burst fire.
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The Robot Devil
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
2055
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Posted - 2014.03.20 09:24:00 -
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Auris Lionesse wrote:Plasma cannon needs to do at least 2500 damage with how slow it fires and how much ammo you get.
Forge does more damage, fires faster and has a clipwith ridiculous accuracy and range and projectile speed.
This is a pleasant change. Id rather have a 6 round assault plasma cannon clip though than burst fire, lol at burst fire.
I know this isn't EVE. I am not stating that AV/vehicles are balanced. I understand there is a problem with AV. I understand that you think CCP doesn't listen or know how to balance things. I understand that you may believe that another patch may not come for a year. I know that the game has problems. I am not trying to say anything about balance, timely releases, quality of released content, competence of CCP or players or anything other than the following:
Burst fire rewards accuracy and diversity to the weapon, a good burst weapon is a monster in the right hands.
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Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S.
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
2330
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Posted - 2014.03.20 09:29:00 -
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Wow. A Plasma Cannon Buff? This was... unexpected.
Can someone do the math and see how many Breach Plasma Cannon rounds it takes to kill a Tank?
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Gallente Neutron Rifle
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General12912
Gallente Marine Corps
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Posted - 2014.03.20 09:30:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:If the assault plasma cannon has 3 shots in the clip.... It will be a uber mass driver... Oh my..
not quite. the projectile speed im sure would still be slow.
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Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S.
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.03.20 09:34:00 -
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General12912 wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:If the assault plasma cannon has 3 shots in the clip.... It will be a uber mass driver... Oh my.. not quite. the projectile speed im sure would still be slow.
40m/s isn't fast... but it isn't exactly slow either. Faster than can be dodged in any close ranged environment.
Looks like we have the new shotgun everyone!
Fizzer94 // Forum Warrior Operation II // MAG Vet
Gallente Neutron Rifle
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust.
Top Men.
1766
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Posted - 2014.03.20 09:39:00 -
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Proto breach projectile should according to this have 1478.4 damage without damage mods and without shield/armor bonuses considered.
No proficiency
1478.4*1.05*1.10 (1 comp dmg mod and shield bonus) = 1707.6 dmg to shields
1478.4*1.05*1.05*1.10 (2 comp dmg mod and shield bonus) = 1792.9 dmg to shields
With proficiency 4, 1 dmg mod
1478.4*1.05*1.20*1.10 (1 comp dmg mod and shield bonus) = 2049.1 dmg to shields
With proficiency 5, 2 dmg mod
1478.4*1.05*1.05*1.25*1.10 (2 comp dmg mod and shield bonus) = 2241.2 dmg to shields
Proto gallente commando, proficiency 5, 1 dmg mod
1478.4*1.05*1.10*1.25*1.10 (1 comp dmg mod and shield bonus) = 2347.9 dmg to shields
+ Uber reload speed
Drop it like its hat.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.03.20 09:42:00 -
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I caution the use of the crystal ball.
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Asha Starwind
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.03.20 09:45:00 -
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I wouldn't hold my breath since those are just stats for the projectile and aren't associated with an actual weapon yet.
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Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.03.20 09:54:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:Logi Bro wrote:385 direct damage? That has got to be a joke, it wouldn't even be useful for AI, let alone as AV. It says nothing about clip size. 1100 (regular variant)/385 (assault variant) = 2.8 So the assault plasma cannon is predicted to have 2-3 shots in clip, or a burst of 2-3 shots.
Oh I would like the last option, if this comes true there will finally be a gallente Weapon with some use. Good find +1 |
Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust.
Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.03.20 10:02:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Cracked Magic Crystal Ball
Allows you to see into the future, albeit rather fragmented. Not suitable for throwing.
Warning: Side-effects may include speculation, jumping to conclusions, overanalysis, misunderstandings, unwarranted assumptions, endless discussions, baseless concerns, undue panic, virtual stampedes, threadnaughts, premature clone activation and unneeded stress. USE WITH CAUTION.
Sure, but we know CCP does not change stats much from when it is public on the test servers to when it is added to the game.
Drop it like its hat.
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
3047
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Posted - 2014.03.20 10:47:00 -
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Not bad
Tho i dont expect it to be used as much, requires aim and no lock on
Intelligence is OP
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Aeon Amadi
Edimmu Warfighters
Gallente Federation
5298
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Posted - 2014.03.20 12:23:00 -
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Probably will be another nine months before we see it implemented, if at all. Fair warning.
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust.
Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.03.20 12:41:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Probably will be another nine months before we see it implemented, if at all. Fair warning.
Yep.
So, I just wanted to add that the Proto Breach Plasma Cannon will have approx 1052.3 shield DPS if you have Prof 5, Reload 5 on a gal commando with Operation 5. Excluding the bugged delay after firing, and projectile travel time. I-¦m also assuming 100% hits and that the breach-¦s reload speed is 3.5 s.
This is just theoretical, and based on the stuff we see in SDE. So take my calculaitons as a "direction" rather than absolute truth.
Drop it like its hat.
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
4707
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Posted - 2014.03.20 13:00:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:*wets himself*
Creams his coffee.
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
4707
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Posted - 2014.03.20 13:03:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Not bad
Tho i dont expect it to be used as much, requires aim and no lock on
The Breach will be doing more damage than the Proto Swarm Launcher. You'd have to be dumb to continue using the Swarm Launcher (unless it's buffed). SL can't even fight infantry.
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