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Malkai Inos
Onikanabo Brigade
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.03.20 18:46:00 -
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Shield and armor are designed to be mechanically different. Their numerical values are balanced around those mechanical differences.
When you make them more mechanically similar then you have to make them more numerically similar to maintain balance. This will almost necessarily lead to them the same thing under two different names, which is a clear game design flaw.
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Malkai Inos
Onikanabo Brigade
Caldari State
1292
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Posted - 2014.03.21 12:35:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Malkai Inos wrote:-1
Shield and armor are designed to be mechanically different. Their numerical values are balanced around those mechanical differences.
When you make them more mechanically similar then you have to make them more numerically similar to maintain balance. This will almost necessarily lead to them being the same thing under two different names, which is a clear game design flaw. Except the tool wouldn't change the way they function would it, it'd be a logi repairing the shield just the same as armour and if you think that's op then you have no initiative whatsoever. Of course it would and you just said so yourself right after denying it. 
"Can be repaired by logis" is a huge change in function. Having to fully rely on innate buffer delay and recharge is pretty much what contrasts shields from armor.
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Malkai Inos
Onikanabo Brigade
Caldari State
1292
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Posted - 2014.03.21 12:50:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Malkai Inos wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Malkai Inos wrote:-1
Shield and armor are designed to be mechanically different. Their numerical values are balanced around those mechanical differences.
When you make them more mechanically similar then you have to make them more numerically similar to maintain balance. This will almost necessarily lead to them being the same thing under two different names, which is a clear game design flaw. Except the tool wouldn't change the way they function would it, it'd be a logi repairing the shield just the same as armour and if you think that's op then you have no initiative whatsoever. Of course it would and you just said so yourself right after denying it. "Can be repaired by logis" is a huge change in function. Having to fully rely on innate buffer delay and recharge is pretty much what contrasts shields from armor. Its not a suit function change is it, so its not op or even close, it doesn't literally change a suit to permanently be buffed all match does it? It requires a logi to do that, which requires teamwork. You're shifting goalposts here. It doesn't need to change the suit or be somehow permanent to be a mechanical change
And again. The fact that shield tanks cannot rely on logis as much as armor tanks is part of their design. They were intended to work that way all along.
You don't like the way shields are designed? Go armor.
TechMechMeds wrote:Apparently its a very good idea so this thread is finished lol. Yeah...whatever.
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Malkai Inos
Onikanabo Brigade
Caldari State
1292
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Posted - 2014.03.21 13:04:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Actually malakai, anyone can mail their ideas to ccp.
Also I have 27mil sp on this char and two others, I can adv or proto everything in the game. This is nothing to do with how I like shields, you assumed that. I simply want a sield rep tool.
Again, anyone can mail their ideas to ccp. Sure. Could've done that all along though since you obviously weren't looking for community feedback on your idea anyways.
TechMechMeds wrote:We also HAD shield transporters with armour transporters to rep vehicles so theres no reason not to have a dropsuit version. Correct. HAD! And you have been given reasons not to have a dropsuit version.
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Malkai Inos
Onikanabo Brigade
Caldari State
1292
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Posted - 2014.03.21 13:17:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Malkai, you are either an alt or you have barely even played the game. I should have known hahaha. Arguing the person instead of the argument. 
Should've sent that mail instead...
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Malkai Inos
Onikanabo Brigade
Caldari State
1292
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Posted - 2014.03.21 13:33:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Malkai Inos wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Malkai, you are either an alt or you have barely even played the game. I should have known hahaha. Arguing the person instead of the argument. Should've sent that mail instead... Theres no point to argue. Especially seen as you are commenting on things you know NOTHING about and have barely even played the game lol. As I said, I sent the mail. You have nothing left to say. Come back to the forums when you actually know what you are talking about and leave those that already do in peace. You have 2,842 kills, a 1.17 kd and 296k wp, get playing. Pure gold man. 
Infantry shield reps still are a "meh" idea at best and your little excursion into ad hominem land provided absolutely nothing to support it.
And i'm out of this thread btw. We won't get along on this subject and i'm not going to wait for the next set of personal remarks.
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