DUST Search - Balancing Mediums and Scouts. CCP Read this please.

Lightning xVx wrote:

Korvin Lomont wrote:

Well I really don't see any major problems with brick tanked scouts. The will be slow, barely able to out strafe a heavy. They will lack mobility and the cloak won't help them in direct combat that much.

Personal I liked the idea of speed penalty based by frame size, this could be a good model to still allow all sandbox play will still limiting unintended fits by some way.

The funny thing is every is complaining about a gal scout with 900hp and 3hp/s selfrepair...whle no one complains about the cal scout with 50hp/s shield repair.

I am way more afraid of a cal scout than a tanked gal (or amarr scout yes they can tank just as good) sure the amount of HP will be drastically lower but he will be back with full shields in seconds, once you hit the gal scout he will have to retreat for minutes...

(unless he has logi support which would 8slow him further down, or is sitting in a rep hive what will make him an even easier target for nades or bullets)

I'm honestly not scared about the Caldari Scout (personally) because I've been getting back into Flux Grenades and the Shotgun has HIGH Alpha damage to shields. So I have my shotgun on all categories to level V, taking them down will be easy for me. Now the Armor....that's a whole different story. Both Amarr and Gallente Scout will be troublesome if they choose to go into armor tanking.


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Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 781	Posted - 2014.03.20 12:43:00 - [1] - Quote Lightning xVx wrote: Over the last month I have seen nothing but Armor stacking Scouts pulling 500-600+ eHP for almost every match that I go into. I have see players use Proto Boundless CR & RR, Proto Scanners and an abundance of Armor plates with hardly any penalties. This month has been nothing but frustrating to say the least and that it doesn't even make ANY sense to run a Scout suit when you can just put that health/ weapons on a Medium. CCP, you need to make it where its more of a penalty for light suits to tank THAT much health, because whats the point in running a medium suit when you can just do Scouts? More upgrades for Biotics, more penalty for Armor. Strange I only encounter brick tanked scouts once or twice per month. I do however encounter many HAVs, Heavies with light weapons and brick tanked logis of any sort. And still lots of caldari assaults. Most scouts I encounter are more after stealth and mobility....
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 788	Posted - 2014.03.21 09:11:00 - [2] - Quote Well I really don't see any major problems with brick tanked scouts. The will be slow, barely able to out strafe a heavy. They will lack mobility and the cloak won't help them in direct combat that much. Personal I liked the idea of speed penalty based by frame size, this could be a good model to still allow all sandbox play will still limiting unintended fits by some way. The funny thing is every is complaining about a gal scout with 900hp and 3hp/s selfrepair...whle no one complains about the cal scout with 50hp/s shield repair. I am way more afraid of a cal scout than a tanked gal (or amarr scout yes they can tank just as good) sure the amount of HP will be drastically lower but he will be back with full shields in seconds, once you hit the gal scout he will have to retreat for minutes... (unless he has logi support which would 8slow him further down, or is sitting in a rep hive what will make him an even easier target for nades or bullets)
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 793	Posted - 2014.03.21 11:43:00 - [3] - Quote Lightning xVx wrote: Korvin Lomont wrote: Well I really don't see any major problems with brick tanked scouts. The will be slow, barely able to out strafe a heavy. They will lack mobility and the cloak won't help them in direct combat that much. Personal I liked the idea of speed penalty based by frame size, this could be a good model to still allow all sandbox play will still limiting unintended fits by some way. The funny thing is every is complaining about a gal scout with 900hp and 3hp/s selfrepair...whle no one complains about the cal scout with 50hp/s shield repair. I am way more afraid of a cal scout than a tanked gal (or amarr scout yes they can tank just as good) sure the amount of HP will be drastically lower but he will be back with full shields in seconds, once you hit the gal scout he will have to retreat for minutes... (unless he has logi support which would 8slow him further down, or is sitting in a rep hive what will make him an even easier target for nades or bullets) I'm honestly not scared about the Caldari Scout (personally) because I've been getting back into Flux Grenades and the Shotgun has HIGH Alpha damage to shields. So I have my shotgun on all categories to level V, taking them down will be easy for me. Now the Armor....that's a whole different story. Both Amarr and Gallente Scout will be troublesome if they choose to go into armor tanking. Hmm I don't know the SG will fire slower allowing to react more quickly also the cal scout will most probably know where you are. Armor makes users not only slow in movement (with double the effect to strafing) but also hinder you jumping abilities. Also ist rather easy to out strafe a SG if you are faster moving than the SG user.... And with two regs the cal suit get get down to roughly 1.6 recharge delay or he could simply add some armor to be more resistant when his shield are down. You mentioned the flux, sure it will strip his shield but when he uses a core you are dead...