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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.03.20 02:13:00 -
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yeah. light frames need to receive a huge speed penalty from plates, to the point where you'll be faster running assault. Maybe add a dampening nerf as well. But then you would also need to reduce ferroscale cpu/pg costs to make them viable for g/a scouts to use to gain small amounts of HP
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Posted - 2014.03.20 02:32:00 -
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Lightning xVx wrote:Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:yeah. light frames need to receive a huge speed penalty from plates, to the point where you'll be faster running assault. Maybe add a dampening nerf as well. But then you would also need to reduce ferroscale cpu/pg costs to make them viable for g/a scouts to use to gain small amounts of HP I know Scouts are going to be big come 1.8, but you can't just make a Scout suit outclass a Medium? Then there would be NO POINT in even running one. It needs to be balanced in a hotfix, PRONTO before or during 1.8. Or else you will see a **** ton of Scouts armor stacking; being completely invisible on radar and on screen.
maybe plates make you more visible while cloaked as well?
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Posted - 2014.03.20 02:41:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:Or we could just buff mediums
Tanked scouts wont stand a chance against smart ewar scouts
no. mediums are fine atm, scouts just need to be scouts, not some 900 hp gallente with a rifle
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Posted - 2014.03.20 02:42:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Nooooo!
How else will my amarr scout be viable if I'm not attaining 600+ hp?!
amarr scout-3 kc, 1 damp, 2 extenders
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Posted - 2014.03.20 02:55:00 -
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Lightning xVx wrote:jace silencerww wrote:LOL just wait the GAL scout is going to be a beast. think armor tanking scout with a passive self rep of 3 look at lokk the gal suit they all are getting self rep here are the rep rate. (remember this is passive build into the suit) heavies/commando reps 1, assaults/logis reps 2, scout reps 3. This is why the Gallente Scout will be incredibly the strongest Scout. ON ALL CATEGORIES OF SCOUT.
yeah it sux that minmitar, amarr, and even caldari are outclassed by it. My suggestion would be to nerf scouts abilities to plate stack, nerf the pg on the caldari scout so that it uses pretty much just e-war mods, make shield extenders cost less pg at the same time, and more CPU as well, and just make it so that scouts can't tank armor wise. 1 plate should be fine, and 2 plates should be the limit before you are gimping urself
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Posted - 2014.03.20 02:57:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:You can dodge basic scanners with proto Scout and have health so um while it does defeat the purpose of the Scout suit, the whole point of the game is to be able to fit any suit however you want. The current speed penalty is enough.
Good scouts don't need any rifles or health buffers to survive.
yeah, and bad scouts who are just FoTM med frames chasing after their next crutch will flock to the gallente scout in hoards and armor tank it, and be more effective than the med frames that they should be running for that purpose
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Posted - 2014.03.20 02:59:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Lightning xVx wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:Nooooo!
How else will my amarr scout be viable if I'm not attaining 600+ hp?! And I understand where your coming from Marauder...but you gotta understand is that, once you put that much health it should ultimately make you JUST AS SLOW as a medium. So the more tankier the slower on all categories. Kinda like how it was for heavies to turn speed back a few builds ago. The more health you have on you, the more the burden is. Like in Skyrim or Demons/Dark Souls. Tankier=Health : Light=Squisher but faster. Yeah but then In turn, you'd have to make it so that mediums can't reach scout speed/stamina/ whatever else. If scouts shouldn't be able to obtain a Medium Frame's normal amount of hp (at proto), then Mediums must not be able to reach a Light Frame's amount of speed and stamina and dampening and what not.
that is exactly what we want. Or, scouts can achieve med frame HP, but it would be gimping themselves and just better in every way to run a med frame, and med frames can achieve scout like biotics and electronics, but they would be gimping themselves and it would be better in every way to run a scout. Sandbox, yet still balanced
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Posted - 2014.03.20 03:03:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:Joel II X wrote:You can dodge basic scanners with proto Scout and have health so um while it does defeat the purpose of the Scout suit, the whole point of the game is to be able to fit any suit however you want. The current speed penalty is enough.
Good scouts don't need any rifles or health buffers to survive. yeah, and bad scouts who are just FoTM med frames chasing after their next crutch will flock to the gallente scout in hoards and armor tank it, and be more effective than the med frames that they should be running for that purpose Essentially, the 1.8 gallente scout will be the 1.6-7 new Gallente Logi.... Armor tanked up the ass with proto weapons and Wirkyomi triage hives (no **** it can actually fit all that. I tested it) However I'm not sure exactly what we should do. If we punish armor stacking, shouldn't we punish shield stacking?
shield stacking is gimped as it is. Armor stacking should only be punished on scouts, and only for regular plates. Ferros and reactives SHOULD be used on armor scouts, just like extenders are used on a min scout right now. the only problem is the massive hp regular plates give without a penalty will allow scout suits to become the new med frames of 1.8, which is something no scout will ever want
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Posted - 2014.03.20 03:03:00 -
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Aythadis Smith wrote:Before it's even out, I'm seeing a call to nerf
take note-these nerfs are being called out by the scout community itself, which says something here
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