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Aisha Ctarl Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4032	Posted - 2014.03.19 13:21:00 - [1] - Quote I feel that the cloak will firstly be a psychological game changer. Scouts with a cloak equipped will be able to lock down certain areas through fear and paranoia alone. Say that your squad really wants to hold down "B." Simply send a scout or two to B and have them wait. Their superior passive scan range will alert them to when an enemy or enemies are headed over to try to and take the objective. Cloak engaged. Now the scouts lie in wait out of the enemy LOS (to prevent their reticule from glowing red) and wait for them to start hacking. Cloaked scouts move in for the kill with either RE's or a shotgun. Now you've put fear into those players which if playing in a squad, they will relay that there are cloaked scouts defending B. Suddenly you will have players that may be "too afraid" to enter that objective and it will be effectively locked down. Yes, I know scouts currently can do this by simply being dampened enough not to show on RADAR and it's terrifying when you're suddenly dead to something that you didn't even see, but cloaks will make this tactic even more frightening and effective. ________________________________________ Now the tactic I described above will bring about a positive change for scouts in another way, they'll actually be needed by teams/squads. Let's say a squad has set up the scenario I've described above where they are camping an objective watching their passive scans before they cloak. The enemy team now knows from being blown to bits that they're in there but doesn't know how to approach the situation. CALSCOUT I CHOOSE YOU! Unless one of the scouts lying in wait is a calscout themself, the calscout the enemy is sending in "shouldn't" appear on the ambush scouts' passive scans. The attacking calscout "should" be able to see the two ambush uncloaked scouts on its passive scan (remember they haven't cloaked because they haven't seen anyone on their passive.) Calscout now knows where they are, cloaks, and heads in to eliminate two uncloaked scouts trying to "ambush" anyone who tries to take the objective. All clear. ________________________________________ Scouts are going to be used now imo to start doing what their role suggests and scouting out for enemies but mostly other scouts. People will be aware that in their medium or heavy frames, their RADAR will simply not be capable of scanning down scout suits and thus will send their own scouts to assess a situation first before the cavalry arrives so to speak. I could list the ways how we Amarr are better than you, but your lesser mind wouldn't comprehend it.
Aisha Ctarl Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4034	Posted - 2014.03.19 14:02:00 - [2] - Quote Sana Rayya wrote: And that's why I'm skilling up Gal, Cal, and Min scouts. I already do outside point defense on my own - it's one of the best ways to get in knife practice. The cloak will make it much more entertaining and add survivability. However the non-scouty solution to the above problem would be to send in a Gal Logi with the focused scanner. Its 15dB scan precision would pick up anyone except a quadruple dampened and cloaked Amarr scout, or a Gal Scout who is either running two complex damps, or a complex damp and has its cloak up. Leave it to CCP to put something like that in the game. I could list the ways how we Amarr are better than you, but your lesser mind wouldn't comprehend it.
Aisha Ctarl Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4036	Posted - 2014.03.19 16:06:00 - [3] - Quote ReGnYuM wrote: LoL I just going to make my Scouts suits Slayer fits Oh come on, unless you're going Amarr scout, have a little fun lol. I could list the ways how we Amarr are better than you, but your lesser mind wouldn't comprehend it.
Aisha Ctarl Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4037	Posted - 2014.03.19 18:05:00 - [4] - Quote Yan Darn wrote: Honestly - a lot of what is being suggested here is what scouts already do - obviously it will help do it better, but apart from chasing a target in the open to get into Shotty/NK range (standing still when they check their six then resuming sprint when they turn back around), I haven't really heard much suggesting it will open up completely new tactics. Though something that can help scouts do their scouty business better is no bad thing. I just I'm predicting a moving scout at 30m is still gonna be quite noticeable. We shall see I guess... I think the psychological effect of cloak will just be easy QQ material for hatemail. Can imagine getting 'invisinoob' mails even when I'm not running cloak... Oh I'm dying for the hatemail...I can just imagine it. "U STOOPID INVISINUB NEED TO B CLOAKED 2 KILL PPL FCKN SCRUB" I could list the ways how we Amarr are better than you, but your lesser mind wouldn't comprehend it.
Aisha Ctarl Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4073	Posted - 2014.03.20 05:17:00 - [5] - Quote Outer Raven wrote: Hmm if I remember correctly didn't CCP state that while cloaking will make said scouts invisible it will also give a distinct sound when an enemy is close an its in use sooo doesn't this mean that even if you can't see said scout you will hear them when one is cloaked like how you can hear a tank even when you can't see one visually or on radar. In other words keep those ears open. No, you make a sound when uncloaking, not a constant sound while cloaked. I could list the ways how we Amarr are better than you, but your lesser mind wouldn't comprehend it.
Aisha Ctarl Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4078	Posted - 2014.03.20 13:51:00 - [6] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Joel II X wrote: I already do that WITHOUT the cloak I'm guessing you can also blatantly see how this is the next crutch, I do everything mentioned just fine on my minja without cloak. Will be swapping to caldari and arm with a magsec, knives and re's. Keep the tacticalol sugar coating going guys, its entertaining that you are so blind even after observing every update offer a new crutch that, before release, gets sugar coated to appear like it totally isn't a fking unecssary crutch hahahaha. Rinse and repeat. Someone sounds a little salty there. I could list the ways how we Amarr are better than you, but your lesser mind wouldn't comprehend it.

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