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I-Shayz-I I-----I 2569	Posted - 2014.03.19 07:18:00 - [1] - Quote https://youtu.be/5_aYzUxOCMo 24 uplinks 11 nanohives I managed to destroy 21, possibly 22 of them with flux grenades in one go, but they just kept putting them all back. They also had like 3-4 heavies down there guarding the equipment pile...but we ended up winning because they wouldn't come out to hack the objective for the majority of the match. (Frost Kitty was doing a good job of keeping them away). I'm hoping 1.8 buff to mass drivers and nerf to equipment health solves this...but if this isn't proof of the problem then I don't know what is >.> Links: List of Most Important Threads I make logistics videos!
Kaughst Nyain San Renegade Alliance 324	Posted - 2014.03.19 07:20:00 - [2] - Quote I am going to like stacking on damage mods with a assault mass driver and destroying uplinks like a flux...I hate to restate the obvious but the MD really is going to have a utility beyond killing people in PC matches. "That is not how you say my name." "How do you say your name?" "I don't know but that is not how you say it."
Medic 1879 Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 1884	Posted - 2014.03.19 07:31:00 - [3] - Quote That is why I hate that map in pubs it is annoying when a team (even worse both) decide the key to victory is having knee high piles of equipment in that little room and refuse to come out even when they lose every point. I have had many a game where 2 squads or so would just sit in that room with stupid amounts of equipment and happily lose the match because going for the objective does not seem to occur to them. It is not so bad in PC where having a squad holding a room too far from an objective to easily stop a hack is not a good idea but still some corps in PC focus on that room and spam equipment like there is no tomorrow. I had one PC match on that map not too long ago where I did pretty much as you did in that video but with a shotgun and I took out 22 uplinks, I really fail to see why some one would think 22 uplinks within a few meters of each other is a good thing, all it does is make the crap MLT ones hard to avoid as they are jammed in right next to the decent ones. Lead Diplomat for Forsaken Immortals.
Grimmiers 0uter.Heaven 453	Posted - 2014.03.19 07:57:00 - [4] - Quote I had a suggestion about this that would be tied into the lore. Most equipment in the game uses nanites so it would make sense that many in the same area would create some noise and interference. The more noise there is in the area the slower your equipement will resupply, respawn, and heal you. If a single person drops too much equipment within 10m or so all of the equipment will explode after a few warnings on your tacnet. Uplinks could use a different frequency than nanohives so you're not penalized for paring them up. I think this would promote smarter equipment placement and remove clutter during those pc matches where it's a sea of red and blue pulsating circles on the map. It could be dust's version of time dialation. SoundCloud Recruiter Link Pronounced Grim-e-urs
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1730	Posted - 2014.03.19 08:06:00 - [5] - Quote I think someone is trying to spell out "HELP" with the equipment to get them out of there. Drop it like its hat.
Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1254	Posted - 2014.03.19 08:12:00 - [6] - Quote Grimmiers wrote: I had a suggestion about this that would be tied into the lore. Most equipment in the game uses nanites so it would make sense that a lot of equipment in the same area would create some noise and interference. The more noise there is in the area the slower your equipement will resupply, respawn, and heal you. If a single person drops too much equipment within 10m or so all of the equipment will explode after a few warnings on your tacnet. Uplinks could use a different frequency than nanohives so you're not penalized for paring them up. I think this would promote smarter equipment placement and remove clutter during those pc matches where it's a sea of red and blue pulsating circles on the map. It could be dust's version of time dialation. I like this idea a lot. MAG ~ Raven
MarasdF Loron Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 217	Posted - 2014.03.19 08:12:00 - [7] - Quote The way I see it, equipment spam should be doable, it just shouldn't be allowed to affect the framerate like it does... But I think it's just that PS3 can't handle that memory... :/ R.I.P. Pre-1.7 tanks, you will be missed.
I-Shayz-I I-----I 2571	Posted - 2014.03.19 17:08:00 - [8] - Quote Grimmiers wrote: It could be dust's version of time dialation. See, you're going after just part of the problem, and not dealing with the root, the source of the problem. What really needs to happen is a limit to equipment that a single player can place so that if you want to spam equipment you need more than just one person with a bunch of fittings. Links: 7162 wp with a Repair Tool! I make logistics videos!
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 12331	Posted - 2014.03.19 17:10:00 - [9] - Quote There needs to be some kind of cap to how much equipment any one person can place, not just any one suit. Videos / Fiction Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot
Vell0cet SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1143	Posted - 2014.03.19 17:17:00 - [10] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: There needs to be some kind of cap to how much equipment any one person can place, not just any one suit. Exactly. Each player has a certain amount of deployables bandwidth (this could even be a skill). With the skill at 0 you can deploy 2 things at once and when capped at lvl 5 you get up to 7 per person. The numbers might be adjusted a bit. Dedicated Logi players will want to make that SP investment, most non-Logi players would rather use those points to buy something that kills stuff. Best PvE idea ever!

Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2754	Posted - 2014.03.19 17:20:00 - [11] - Quote My passive scanning+equipment seems to lag me out till I get far enough away from the city. It's awful. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2754	Posted - 2014.03.19 17:22:00 - [12] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: There needs to be some kind of cap to how much equipment any one person can place, not just any one suit. I think it needs to be capped per squad or even per team. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Skihids Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 3067	Posted - 2014.03.19 17:23:00 - [13] - Quote What's the problem if it didn't help them win? And you be quiet Cody, or no uplinks or hives for you!
Ares 514 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 666	Posted - 2014.03.19 17:27:00 - [14] - Quote I'm a strong supporter of the per player cap on equipment, either by type or overall. The mic bubble bug... I yield, CCP will be fixing it SOON. Current ETA 1 year since bug
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2754	Posted - 2014.03.19 17:31:00 - [15] - Quote Skihids wrote: What's the problem if it didn't help them win? And you be quiet Cody, or no uplinks or hives for you! Hey! You don't have to see the Red Sea everytime you get into a dom-o. It hurts my eyes and keeps the enemy secret. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
hold that Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 66	Posted - 2014.03.19 17:47:00 - [16] - Quote i think its fine. besides it's counter productive to the team spamming them in so close an area. noobs will just stay there, where you should be leading all the noobs outside to fight, and putting equipment in places to strengthen and dominate a wider area. equipment cap and all the other crazy suggestions would be weak, because you can't punish people for playing with strangers. i like the dude who said there should be some sp investment, that kind of makes sense. in order to drop 2 proto uplinks, or 3 proto hives etc, you have to invest in a ability to do so. if you don't, you can only drop 1 proto hive/uplink etc at a time. the only real problem is that it causes lag, right? the argument that it's a scrubby way to get sp is kinda weak, as using a RR, tank, or any fotm is a 10x scrubbier way to get SP.
Grimmiers 0uter.Heaven 454	Posted - 2014.03.19 17:52:00 - [17] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: Grimmiers wrote: It could be dust's version of time dialation. See, you're going after just part of the problem, and not dealing with the root, the source of the problem. What really needs to happen is a limit to equipment that a single player can place so that if you want to spam equipment you need more than just one person with a bunch of fittings. You missed the part where someone dropping all of their equipment within a certain range will have all of the equipment be destroyed. This would make it so you would need multiple logis to place equipment at a choke point, and even they would have to spread it out for max efficiency. Imagine those 24 uplinks in that small area having the times increased by like 2 or 3 times. It would be much easier to remove the equipment knowing the spawn times are so long no one will respawn on that location. If you just cap equipment per player you can still have a squad of six drop 4 uplinks each and have that same blob with no penalty. SoundCloud Recruiter Link Pronounced Grim-e-urs
Havaru Fox Golden Empire of EvE 53	Posted - 2014.03.19 17:57:00 - [18] - Quote as a logi, i suffer from the stacking, because my own uplinks and hives dont get used. i ask myself over and over: why do my own uplinks/hives blow up, when i drop more then 2, even after i died. but a person that is using a whole suit setup to drop all uplinks/hives in the book can have so many of them on the map, even if he is switching the suit. i think your hive/uplink should be linked to your setup. you change the setup? your stuff that you droped blows up but maybe we need 1.8 amarr for defs to understand how this works, since they seem not to play there own game and never saw a radar with more uplinks/hives then there are players in the whole game #byebyefps
Skihids Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 3070	Posted - 2014.03.19 18:05:00 - [19] - Quote Havaru Fox wrote: as a logi, i suffer from the stacking, because my own uplinks and hives dont get used. i ask myself over and over: why do my own uplinks/hives blow up, when i drop more then 2, even after i died. but a person that is using a whole suit setup to drop all uplinks/hives in the book can have so many of them on the map, even if he is switching the suit. i think your hive/uplink should be linked to your setup. you change the setup? your stuff that you droped blows up but maybe we need 1.8 amarr for defs to understand how this works, since they seem not to play there own game and never saw a radar with more uplinks/hives then there are players in the whole game #byebyefps Having to remain in a suit with your equipment deployed would make for a really dull game. Drop your hives and your uplinks, then hide in a corner because you are in a squishy suit and can't do anything else. Logisticts players are already doing the rest of you a favor. Make it too much of a chore and they will simply stop. Then all the heavies can suicide or waddle back to a SD to get more ammo.
hold that Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 66	Posted - 2014.03.19 18:12:00 - [20] - Quote Havaru Fox wrote: as a logi, i suffer from the stacking, because my own uplinks and hives dont get used. i ask myself over and over: why do my own uplinks/hives blow up, when i drop more then 2, even after i died. but a person that is using a whole suit setup to drop all uplinks/hives in the book can have so many of them on the map, even if he is switching the suit. i think your hive/uplink should be linked to your setup. you change the setup? your stuff that you droped blows up but maybe we need 1.8 amarr for defs to understand how this works, since they seem not to play there own game and never saw a radar with more uplinks/hives then there are players in the whole game #byebyefps not sure what you mean. the item description states how many of each hive/uplinks you can have out at a time. if it says 2/3, then every hive/uplink after 2 will pop. The only item i'm aware that pops when you die is the -75% uplink, and that's for good reason. If all items popped when you died or changed out redlining would be even a worse epidemic.

Zirzo Valcyn Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 246	Posted - 2014.03.19 18:20:00 - [21] - Quote yea it lags frame rate when i active my vehicle scanner and there's piles of equipment my frame rate goes to hell. i wish i could select an option to turn off the equipment intel u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll. forum warrior .189
Zirzo Valcyn Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 246	Posted - 2014.03.19 18:28:00 - [22] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: There needs to be some kind of cap to how much equipment any one person can place, not just any one suit. I think it needs to be capped per squad or even per team. or cap the area, "You cannot place droplink so close to existing equipment" a lot of other games have this system where you can't place deployables near each other. they restrict you from placing them close together u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll. forum warrior .189


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