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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1082
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Posted - 2014.03.19 05:17:00 -
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With the shotgun being nerfed in 1.8 im having a hard time deciding on a new weapon. I though about nova knifes but then i would have to go minmatar scout Mabey the plasma cannon? |
Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
1954
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Posted - 2014.03.19 05:18:00 -
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What shotgun nerf?
"Go ahead and dual tank. My Commando dual ganks." -Kasote Denzara
I'm waiting for my G-I suit. It's what I want.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
2184
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Posted - 2014.03.19 05:20:00 -
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Mass driver.
(I dare you :P)
Real men do it with missiles.
"True says I have to let Lorhak yell at people in PIE GC from now on."
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1082
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Posted - 2014.03.19 05:21:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote:What shotgun nerf? Shotgun proficiency is changing from +3% ROF to +3% shield damage This means the shotgun will not be able to kill heavies in 1.8 as they will be able to turn around before you can shoot the 4 shots it takes to kill them |
Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
1954
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Posted - 2014.03.19 05:25:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:Shotgun proficiency is changing from +3% ROF to +3% shield damage This means the shotgun will not be able to kill heavies in 1.8 as they will be able to turn around before you can shoot the 4 shots it takes to kill them
It's actually an anti-shield buff, anti-armor nerf. The shotgun is, after all, Gallentean and is a blaster. You realize exactly how much of a boost that anti-shield bonus is, right? It's going to devastate shields, as it should. This will give the Breach variant a lot more tempting use than in 1.7, you know. As a Commando runner, I'll gladly take that shield damage over the rate of fire. Not only am I getting a boost from the Commando skill, but also Prof.? **** yeah.
So no, it's actually not a nerf.
"Go ahead and dual tank. My Commando dual ganks." -Kasote Denzara
I'm waiting for my G-I suit. It's what I want.
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1082
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Posted - 2014.03.19 05:30:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Shotgun proficiency is changing from +3% ROF to +3% shield damage This means the shotgun will not be able to kill heavies in 1.8 as they will be able to turn around before you can shoot the 4 shots it takes to kill them It's actually an anti-shield buff, anti-armor nerf. The shotgun is, after all, Gallentean and is a blaster. You realize exactly how much of a boost that anti-shield bonus is, right? It's going to devastate shields, as it should. This will give the Breach variant a lot more tempting use than in 1.7, you know. As a Commando runner, I'll gladly take that shield damage over the rate of fire. Not only am I getting a boost from the Commando skill, but also Prof.? **** yeah. So no, it's actually not a nerf. You obviously dont use the shotgun Anyone who skilled up the shotgun knows how terrible of a bonus this is. The shotgun would need to 1 hit kill most suits and 2 hit kill heavys with this bonus for it to be worth it. |
Brokerib
Lone Wolves Club
778
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Posted - 2014.03.19 05:34:00 -
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Nova knives, scrambler pistol, and maybe the mag sec on the side arm?
Scrambler rifle for the charge shot on light?
Maybe even the lazorz rifle or MD?
The only ones I'm banking on are NK and ScP.
Knowledge is power
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Kaughst
Nyain San Renegade Alliance
319
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Posted - 2014.03.19 05:35:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Mass driver.
(I dare you :P)
I thought of that to...but I would have a hard time making a gallente scout flexible if I was brick tanking and I do not know if I can go beyond my EHP with Gallente Assault while maintaining a higher speed...still the low scan signature is useful but I do not know if it that really goes along better than just pulling out a combat rifle or shotgun.
"That is not how you say my name."
"How do you say your name?"
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Beck Weathers
Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance
846
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Posted - 2014.03.19 05:37:00 -
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Acr is my got to current scout weapon... not sure after 1.8
These forums must be located in the Californin country side, there is whine as far as the eye can see.
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
1749
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Posted - 2014.03.19 05:38:00 -
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try the Carthum Assault ScP (best weapon in this game) and the Kaalakiota Magsec SMG (likely 2nd best weapon in the game) combo.
any good scout knows how good ScPs are, and it's probably going to be the same for Magsec SMGs.
Anime > EVERYTHING
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Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
1954
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Posted - 2014.03.19 05:38:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote: You obviously dont use the shotgun Anyone who skilled up the shotgun knows how terrible of a bonus this is. The shotgun would need to 1 hit kill most suits and 2 hit kill heavys with this bonus for it to be worth it.
Actually, I use a standard on the 'Dragonfly' Scout. It's easily able to bring down anything that isn't a Sentinel within a couple of shots. It takes something a bit stronger to crack the Sentinels before they can react. No, I don't brick tank a light frame. I find the concept silly. I actually use Dampeners on my Scout suits. You're not using the shotgun right if you really believe rate of fire is what the shotgun needs.
I'm also going to go out of my way and assume you have never used the Breach. The Breach is the only shotgun that benefits with rate of fire to a considerable amount. However, high rate of fire implies that you will need multiple shots in a short amount of time. Damage, on the other hand, implies that you will be doing a lot of damage and thusly will not need to shoot multiple times quickly. That's the fundamental difference between sheer power and speed.
"Go ahead and dual tank. My Commando dual ganks." -Kasote Denzara
I'm waiting for my G-I suit. It's what I want.
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
550
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Posted - 2014.03.19 05:39:00 -
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:try the Carthum Assault ScP (best weapon in this game) and the Kaalakiota Magsec SMG (likely 2nd best weapon in the game) combo.
any good scout knows how good ScPs are, and it's probably going to be the same for Magsec SMGs. Ive only used a std scp, only good for headshots or caldari frames
Closed beta vet
Logi,
Heavy,
Python,
Scout.
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Scout Registry
Nos Nothi
1600
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Posted - 2014.03.19 05:40:00 -
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NKs REs ScPs
Edit: Haven't given up on Shotguns yet. No telling what they might "ninja" in with the RoF change. |
Vitharr Foebane
Living Like Larry Schwag
794
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Posted - 2014.03.19 05:43:00 -
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amarr "scout" with laser rifle if they get too close just cloak und run away xD
Thanks CCP for making the HMG Heavy viable again :3
That's no excuse to slack off on releasing a heavy laser though =.=
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
1752
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Posted - 2014.03.19 05:47:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Ive only used a std scp
that was your mistake. try skilling into higher level tiers and you'll see what i mean.
Anime > EVERYTHING
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
550
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Posted - 2014.03.19 05:50:00 -
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Ive only used a std scp
that was your mistake. try skilling into higher level tiers and you'll see what i mean. But my std scr does better dos than a std scp And why bother now? Im gunna use magsec and shotgun Shotgun for damage Magsec for range
Closed beta vet
Logi,
Heavy,
Python,
Scout.
Dark souls 2 new game plus.
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Scout Registry
Nos Nothi
1601
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Posted - 2014.03.19 05:51:00 -
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Ive only used a std scp
that was your mistake. try skilling into higher level tiers and you'll see what i mean.
Hit my ScP stride at Operation V, Prof III. Solid weapon. Limited ammo.
I personally prefer the TT-3, but both Appia and Bojo will tell you I'm doing it wrong :P |
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
1753
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Posted - 2014.03.19 05:53:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Ive only used a std scp
that was your mistake. try skilling into higher level tiers and you'll see what i mean. But my std scr does better dos than a std scp And why bother now? Im gunna use magsec and shotgun Shotgun for damage Magsec for range if you plan on only using the magsec, then there is no reaon to. i'll also be using the magsec with my shotgun regularly on my scout ck.0
but i'll let you know that i've regularly beaten ScRs in 1v1s with my ScPs. one day you'll face a scout that will drop you faster than you've ever been dropped before with a ScP, then you'll see firsthand what i mean.
Anime > EVERYTHING
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Cyrius Li-Moody
4055
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Posted - 2014.03.19 06:14:00 -
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Knives.
/thread
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
550
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Posted - 2014.03.19 06:16:00 -
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Ive only used a std scp
that was your mistake. try skilling into higher level tiers and you'll see what i mean. But my std scr does better dos than a std scp And why bother now? Im gunna use magsec and shotgun Shotgun for damage Magsec for range if you plan on only using the magsec, then there is no reaon to. i'll also be using the magsec with my shotgun regularly on my scout ck.0 but i'll let you know that i've regularly beaten ScRs in 1v1s with my ScPs. one day you'll face a scout that will drop you faster than you've ever been dropped before with a ScP, then you'll see firsthand what i mean. Hmm nm then as ive seen it But same suit same setup, wierd Tell me or message me your fit, lets see if its the same...
Closed beta vet
Logi,
Heavy,
Python,
Scout.
Dark souls 2 new game plus.
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BARDAS
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
818
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Posted - 2014.03.19 06:34:00 -
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I guessing it depends on how you are running your Scout. I can see Combat Rifle/Magsec being a good combo for the armor tanking scouts like Gallente and Amarr. That will probably be how i'm going to roll when I switch to Gallente Scout in 1.8. The only thing that would tempt me to stay Minmatar is my Knife SP prof 5 and the fact that its probably going to be the only way to 1 vs 1 a Heavy unless you RE them. I kind of regret the points I put into Shotgun now, but will probably still use it from time to time. |
low genius
The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance
1371
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Posted - 2014.03.19 06:36:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:With the shotgun being nerfed in 1.8 im having a hard time deciding on a new weapon. I though about nova knifes but then i would have to go minmatar scout Mabey the plasma cannon?
four words: scram bler pist ol. |
noobsniper the 2nd
OLDSPICE. Top Men.
287
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Posted - 2014.03.19 06:49:00 -
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Magsec nk or magsec sniper rifle? Would be kool being able to nail ppl,long range with sniper but still have high punch up close with a magsec smg
just call me communist space king noob
MAG vet raven ftw
Pre 1.8 scout don't throw me in with that rift raft
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COVERT SUBTERFUGE
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY
675
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Posted - 2014.03.19 07:15:00 -
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I'ma stick with CR and NK. My perfect combo.
Proud Minmatar scout - Republic Merc 6/10
Immune to bitter/jaded vet syndrome
Roll with the punches instead of QQing
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Broonfondle Majikthies
Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day
961
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Posted - 2014.03.19 08:06:00 -
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SMG and Knives for me
My 'Syndie' has always been my trusted ally along with the ASMG's
Thinking of the Ion for a little verity. I dislike shotguns in most games and the Dust one sounds like a stapler. If we do get racial SG's (I don't really see the point but anyhoo) and the Minmatar one sounds meaty I will try it out.
"...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
1731
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Posted - 2014.03.19 08:10:00 -
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CR + ScP Shotgun + SMG/Magsec/Bolt pistol Scrambler + SMG/Magsec/Bolt pistol REs
Drop it like its hat.
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Yan Darn
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
357
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Posted - 2014.03.19 08:36:00 -
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Gonna stick with Shotgun/ScP/Fluxes/REs.
If only the meta was still about shields...
Seriously though, I will try adapting first, since Id rather spend that 2-3mil (not sure if my omega booster was activated in time...) finishing off precision and hacking.
I'm very tempted not to skill up any weapons until I hear what is happening in the next patch - maybe that 2mil in ARs will pay off when they make Breach ARs viable - all I know is that I don't want to be boring and skill into another rifle.
The Ghost of Bravo
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COVERT SUBTERFUGE
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY
675
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Posted - 2014.03.19 08:47:00 -
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Broonfondle Majikthies wrote:SMG and Knives for me
My 'Syndie' has always been my trusted ally along with the ASMG's
Thinking of the Ion for a little verity. I dislike shotguns in most games and the Dust one sounds like a stapler. If we do get racial SG's (I don't really see the point but anyhoo) and the Minmatar one sounds meaty I will try it out.
I really wish I had the Syndicate SMG on my Matari pride n joy...I hope to get one when the market opens up.
I kind of want to use NKs on my Caldari scout but knowing that it doesn't have that 25% matari badassness going on it puts me off. Might go Magsec and something on him.
CR and NK will always be my fav combo though. I'm most at home with the CR and is a very versatile gun and I think the combo gives me the perfect range of combative options and advantages should I choose to engage in combat. They will be getting a bit of a rest come 1.8 with lower profile and cloaking as I shall be merciful and leave you on your merry way as I go on mine to stab stab hack.
CR just looks awesome too, by far my favorite design of the 4 rifles.
Proud Minmatar scout - Republic Merc 6/10
Immune to bitter/jaded vet syndrome
Roll with the punches instead of QQing
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Billi Gene
516
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Posted - 2014.03.19 09:00:00 -
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im undecided on which scout suit /s i might want...
as for weapons/equipment:
scrambler rifle(charge)//bolt pistol or magsec-/-scan/links
or
ion pistol//bolt pistol-/-cloaky/remotes
the ole 1-2, take out shields then burst down armor. Engagement range being the variable.
probs still use shotty but unsure, hence why not sure about the scrambler rifle.
Pedant, Ape, Troll.
My Beard makes Alpha's sook :P
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
2188
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Posted - 2014.03.19 09:08:00 -
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During the heavy event I started getting teased by my squad mates for using my HMG as a finisher for my ScP.
Yeah, they're that good.
Real men do it with missiles.
"True says I have to let Lorhak yell at people in PIE GC from now on."
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