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Nosid Katona
HavoK Core
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.03.19 01:53:00 -
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IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Heavies:
Amarr=Gallante=Caldari>Minmitar
Assault
Amarr>Gallante>minmitar>caldari
scouts:
Gallante> or equal to Caldari>minmitar(maybee)>Amarr
Logistics:
Caldari (dual tank)>Gallante=minmitar>Amarr
Many of these you can argue but you can't argue the fact that Minmitar heavies gonna suck, Caldari assault is gonna suck and Amarr Light Assault isn't a scout suit.
I'm curious on how people scale assault suits. What makes cal worst out of the four?
Yes please by all means tell us how the CalAss is worse then the GalAss or god forbid the MinAss.
Vae Victis
Valor Vet, R.I.P MAG
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Nosid Katona
HavoK Core
RISE of LEGION
132
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Posted - 2014.03.19 02:04:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:Nosid Katona wrote:IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Heavies:
Amarr=Gallante=Caldari>Minmitar
Assault
Amarr>Gallante>minmitar>caldari
scouts:
Gallante> or equal to Caldari>minmitar(maybee)>Amarr
Logistics:
Caldari (dual tank)>Gallante=minmitar>Amarr
Many of these you can argue but you can't argue the fact that Minmitar heavies gonna suck, Caldari assault is gonna suck and Amarr Light Assault isn't a scout suit.
I'm curious on how people scale assault suits. What makes cal worst out of the four? Yes please by all means tell us how the CalAss is worse then the GalAss or god forbid the MinAss. Dude gallante assault is going to be good with an AR, the minmitar assault is going to be good with projectile weapons. Caldari and minmitar last because shields.
I replied above but I guess you didn't see the edit. The GalAss bonus will ONLY work for the AR and maybe the Ion Pistol if it has horrible accuracy, but with the AR being nerfed it and it's variants will continue to be outperformed by the RR, CR, and ScR and no amount of less dispersion will fix that.
Not to mention with SharpShooter level 5, a mistake to be honest, and my new "bonus" my AR wil basically be a laser pointer with no increase in range.
Vae Victis
Valor Vet, R.I.P MAG
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Nosid Katona
HavoK Core
RISE of LEGION
132
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Posted - 2014.03.19 02:09:00 -
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Hakyou Brutor wrote:Nosid Katona wrote:IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Heavies:
Amarr=Gallante=Caldari>Minmitar
Assault
Amarr>Gallante>minmitar>caldari
scouts:
Gallante> or equal to Caldari>minmitar(maybee)>Amarr
Logistics:
Caldari (dual tank)>Gallante=minmitar>Amarr
Many of these you can argue but you can't argue the fact that Minmitar heavies gonna suck, Caldari assault is gonna suck and Amarr Light Assault isn't a scout suit.
I'm curious on how people scale assault suits. What makes cal worst out of the four? Yes please by all means tell us how the CalAss is worse then the GalAss or god forbid the MinAss. Edit: Guess he beat me to posting, I'm just gonna go out on a limb and say you've never used the GalAss with an AR. The skill bonuses for both GalAss and CalAss bonuses in 1.8 are terrible when compared to the other Assaults but come on... The Bonus somehow makes the suit super UP? Are the stats lackluster? Absolutely as are most the Assault stats. However A CalAss with a RR will always beat out GalAss with an AR; especially since they will both have to dual tank with nerfed damage mods and a lack of a viable high slot replacement. A fit I made for 1.8 http://www.protofits.com/fittings/view/214/654 , as you can see, I have 905 eHP while also having 8.25 armor rep a sec
With the CR and SMG the bonus wont work for you at all, which isn't much of a loss to be honest but the Scanner? This would work much better on a GalLogi don't you think? Not to mention I have that much HP on my suit right now although with much less HP regen.
Vae Victis
Valor Vet, R.I.P MAG
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Nosid Katona
HavoK Core
RISE of LEGION
132
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Posted - 2014.03.19 02:18:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:
Only reason ScR is good now is because Amarr Assaults Stacking 3 complex dmg mods 2 shotting 300 shields and 4 shotting 500 armor. They have lowest TTK. The CR nerf is going to be harsh because it already lacks from ammo and an AR will likely rip through the shields faster than CR ripping through 700 armor. The AR today is still decent at extreme close ranges where you have to spray and pray.
Funny how you don't mention the RR but I'll just address your counter points. Your right on the ScR but the CR? No, the AR will not rip through shields faster the the CR through armor especially the ACR as nothing is really chasing between the two balance wise. The only change is they are both being nerfed a similar amount to raise TTK, the CR will still out DPS and out range the AR. If you've ever faced a competent CR user in CQC with the AR you'd see the imbalance.
Vae Victis
Valor Vet, R.I.P MAG
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