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Ar Lan
Knights Of Ender Galactic Skyfleet Empire
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Posted - 2014.03.18 20:19:00 -
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Greetings my fellow mercs, as you all know ascending up ladders can leave you extremely vulnerable. I'm sure there's nothing you hate more than going up a ladder only to be shot in the butt by someone:(
Right now the only way to avoid this is to do one of four things:
1) Risk your own dropship to gain the high ground, watch out for rail tanks and installations.
2) Hope some generous and patient random waits long enough for you to get into their dropship and also hoping that they take you where you'd like, this is unlikely.
3) Be in a squad with a competent dropship pilot and request a specific drop.
4) Forget the whole thing and just spray and pray on the ground hoping the other team doesn't gain the high ground.
To solve these problems I've come up with two pieces of equipment and a nice little alteration to the gameplay mechanics:
1) Jetpacks - This piece of equipment can only be fitted to equipment slots of medium and light frame dropsuits.
2) Grappling Hooks - This piece of equipment can only be fitted to equipment slots of heavy frames.(Because their to heavy for jetpacks, obviously.)
4) Firing weapons while going up ladders.(This really shouldn't need much explanation.)
Note that each ascension device will only allow you to reach areas no higher than 6.096 to 9.144 meters that's 20 to 30 feet for those of us on the english standard.
Also note that the grappling hook will be fired the same way as a gun or rep. tool.(I'm Batman.)
Now please come up with whatever sci-fi explantations you need to make having these in the game okay in your heads. I don't really care. I just want these things to be done.
Please like this if you agree. Thank you for your consideration.
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Hoover Damn
H.A.R.V.E.S.T. Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2014.03.18 20:40:00 -
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Maybe kincats should affect jump height as well as sprint speed?
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Aggrohim
Knights Of Ender Galactic Skyfleet Empire
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Posted - 2014.03.18 20:45:00 -
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Well I agree that it is annoying ,but if u could shoot off a ladder then it would be with ur sidearm because a primary can't be used with one hand.
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MRBH1997
Knights Of Ender Galactic Skyfleet Empire
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Posted - 2014.03.18 21:19:00 -
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Aggrohim wrote:Well I agree that it is annoying ,but if u could shoot off a ladder then it would be with ur sidearm because a primary can't be used with one hand.
Well you could actually fire with a prmimary but only with light weapons and side arms cause of wait and it would be a hip fire so to speak and would be inaccurate but effective enough to cover your own ***. As for jet packs it'd be more of a 'jump pack if it didn't have a fuel gauge system to regulate it. This would only work though if there were some forms of vaulting and ledge grabbing. So those probably will never exist in dust.
Though grappling hooks would be cool and should be only able to be used to carry lighter suits up but could still be deployed as zip lines for any suit. Or even used to repel would be a cool thug aswell but once again probably wot be implemented in dust.
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Outer Raven
WarRavens League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.03.19 01:11:00 -
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MRBH1997 wrote:Aggrohim wrote:Well I agree that it is annoying ,but if u could shoot off a ladder then it would be with ur sidearm because a primary can't be used with one hand. Well you could actually fire with a prmimary but only with light weapons and side arms cause of wait and it would be a hip fire so to speak and would be inaccurate but effective enough to cover your own ***. As for jet packs it'd be more of a 'jump pack if it didn't have a fuel gauge system to regulate it. This would only work though if there were some forms of vaulting and ledge grabbing. So those probably will never exist in dust. Though grappling hooks would be cool and should be only able to be used to carry lighter suits up but could still be deployed as zip lines for any suit. Or even used to repel would be a cool thug as well but once again probably wot be implemented in dust. One can dream though . Besides if CCP continues to add in elements that they have already eluded to in the past such as cloaks (1.8), M.T.A.C.S, Jets, Drones, Hover bikes, etc., etc.
The overall landscape may be alot different than what we have now so who knows how much will change or things will come in that we didn't know where on the books, I'll wait an see before getting out the rubber stamp of doom. Speaking of which I wonder what else new will be added to the to do list for the up an coming Fanfest.
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lee corwood
Knights Of Ender Galactic Skyfleet Empire
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Posted - 2014.03.19 02:14:00 -
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Agree with sidearms, even if it means I can't shoot because I don't have them. I also agree the grapple hook should be restricted to light suits.
I also want all of you to have grip handles so I can freaking drag you behind cover and rez you. This sticky you and end up on top of you thing is getting annoying.
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deepfried salad gilliam
Sanguine Knights
531
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Posted - 2014.03.19 03:51:00 -
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i support jet packs and change stamina to capacitor(still works for sprinting because you have servo motors in your suit) then jet packs could run off capacitor and add i bonus to the suit that alters the speed and capacitor efficiency of the suit it self(making heavies fly slower and use more capacitor and scouts can fly further and longer)
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KalOfTheRathi
Nec Tributis
1031
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Posted - 2014.03.19 04:02:00 -
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Planetside 2 has jet packs although they will not allow getting to the top of some of Dust's towers.
Titanfall and Halo has them but with the same limitations.
Dust514 has a solution that already exists. You just don't want to use it.
Militia Drop Ships are cheap. Use them, solve your own problem.
BTW, a grappling hook will get you killed under the normal use of a pilot not knowing you are hanging under his ship. Although your explanation didn't cover that situation and reasonably twisted gamer (all of us) would try it.
Firing off ladders will require work. Animations, FOV efforts and many subtle bits of correction to lots of code. Not gonna happen.
And so it goes.
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Divinewolf
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2014.03.21 21:00:00 -
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Jetpacks should be included, they will give you the verticality needed to keep from being pwn'd by a tank and help you pwn that one annoying camper who reached his height from a drop ship. As of all tech in the EVE universe, it should require a decent amount of skill training and should occupy a utility slot (same place as nanohives, nanite injectors, etc). Each faction should have there own variant (if not just for aesthetics, such as Valkyrie wings for the Amarr, or burly rockets for Minnmatar).
Leveling these 'packs should be based on: -Jump height -Movment speed -Duration -Etc
Sorry if I sound too in depth with this, but if CCP knows where to start, we might just get the jetpacks! |
Joey-Number1
Maniacal Miners INC No Safe Haven
71
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Posted - 2014.03.21 21:25:00 -
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Cool stuff, would like to add one thing though, Scouting Drone (equipment). Lasts only few seconds and is able to get to any location or space. |
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almighty warior
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2014.03.24 23:48:00 -
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I would love it so much if they added jet packs and holding on to ledges of buildings. I do understand that they would have to put more ladders on buildings so people without jetpacks could get on those buildings but at the same time they don't have to. if you don't invest in jet packs that is your own route. Every one can take their own route however they want so they don't have to put ladders on every building on the maps.
But if I could get a reply for this question about the jet packs
Should they include the jet pack inside the drop suit fitting and make it cost more or just keep it as a separate equipment slot? |
Komodo Jones
Chaotik Serenity
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Posted - 2014.03.25 02:22:00 -
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1 word, jump module, imagine being able to leap over tall buildings in a single bound!
Actually now that I think about it, an equipment like a minmatar made ballistic pressure booster would be awesome, basically a cannon fires and you go flying upward
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almighty warior
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2014.03.25 04:07:00 -
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I have a topic already started about stuff like this. The topic is called:
Elevators.
Elevators are the new solution. I also like the idea of jet packs. Although I do oppose the idea of grappling hooks. I think that is just simply too much. |
Ar Lan
Knights Of Ender Galactic Skyfleet Empire
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Posted - 2014.04.22 07:39:00 -
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Bump
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Nikoli Gleimer
Vanguardian Remnant
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Posted - 2014.04.22 11:24:00 -
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I like most of this, but I strongly disagree with the Grappling hook idea for heavies.
I really dont want to see heavies flying all over the place in the air.... |
Heavenly Daughter
the Aurum Grinder and Company
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Posted - 2014.04.22 12:27:00 -
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Jetpacks, no, I disagree with those.
A grappling hook , this is better a small powerful equipment slot item, with a small gas/rocket propelled hook. Small enough to be used as an equipment item. Reminds me of the small winch items of vehicles. Would certainly be powful enough to lifts suits, even HEAVY. lol....
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