Do the same for one liner troll posters and it would be about right.

I never said they are balanced, I do say that they aren't indestructible with teamwork and coordinated attacks. When people actually try it works almost every time but when one dude tries to pop a HAV is isn't going to work. What is the point of HAV if they are easily soloed by every Joe-blow merc with no skills in AV. There is a balance problem but it isn't as bad as we make it out to be, try more and cry less is all I am saying.

Don't get me wrong, there is a problem but it isn't as bad as we make it out to be. No, it shouldn't take an entire squad to pop one vehicle but it should take a few guys trying. A good squad with good teamwork that has competent mercs working in unison and focused on one thing that support each other doesn't have many problems. That is why the best teams are the best, they do it correctly. Vehicles in closed beta were OP, except for free LAV that were one AV nade pops, they are nowhere near that way now. Using cover and tactics negates a lot of HAV damage. One merc as bait and the other two applying damage does wonders. Yes, I can solo some HAVs but not all. Yes, some pilots are OP when in HAVs but it is the pilot not so much the HAV because good pilots are good and make wise choices.

It all comes down to how good the squad is trying to kill the HAV and how good the pilot is, if either are sub par then the other side wins almost every time. I am not, have not and will not say that the vehicle/AV dichotomy is not borked up and needs to be tweaked a little but I will say that is as much the infantries fault as it is OP HAVs. I don't want to invalidate some guys way of playing because something is difficult. It is like saying I can't solo a battleship in a frigate and they need to be nerfed, every thing has its place but finding the right place is sometimes difficult. It is very sad to see people say they don't even try because they will lose ISK. Talk about being risk adverse carebears. Easy is not fun and the most difficult fights I have had in this game are always the most fun. I want to drop out of matches when we roll the other team because it so boring that I makes me want to turn the game off.

New Eden has never been call easy and if you are not willing to lose ISK then maybe you should go back to high sec mining. The game is about risk vs reward and if you aren't willing to risk then you shouldn't be rewarded. I am not trying to be an ass but there is times when you are going to lose, no one wins at everything every time and dropping out only empowers pilots to keep doing what they are doing, not trying is letting them win and if you aren't willing to fight the hard fight then this isn't the game for you. When I say you I am not singling you out, I am using the word you as a reference to the community as a whole.

Our squad of six just rolled almost every HAV we saw with few problems.

I would say that the AV nade nerf is part of a bigger plan, I don't know what it is but I would say there is a reason that CCP deemed good.