You make it sound like it's worthless. I've been using nothing but my unskilled 'Dren' SG for months now and have had no problems killing protos or heavies. Sure, it may not be as good as it used to (idk I never skilled it up enough), but I'm sure they're still more than viable.

shotguns for people that cant aim. RIP good game, next.

You do realize that the Caldari Heavy is mainly a shield tanker, right?

OH NOOOOOOOOO

THIS MEANS I HAVE TO ADAPT AND CHOOSE MY OPPONENTS A BIT MORE WISELY WHILE I AM CLOAKED.

PRFFRABLE SHIELD BASED OPNENTS

AHHHH

CCP Y YOU DID THIS!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

Can some one please explain to me why the RoF bonus is so important? The way i see it, SGs are the epitome of an alpha strike weapon.

When I fight against shotgunners, it's either a one-shot-death or very likely not-a-deathGäó for me at all. I'd take more likely killing with the first precise hit over a higher but still slim chance to connect a second or even third shot any day of the week.

Changing the bonus to both shields and armor until other SG variants are added would be good though.

Shotguns will be fine. I personally only have prof to 3

Never saw a need to go past that... Or even get proficiency in the first place tbh.

Regardless, shotgun will be fine. Don't worry

It's not that bad... In PC.

In pubs the shotgun is horrid, I'll admit. However in PC, it's quite good actually. Unfortunately it's just that CR and RR are better than it in 90% of confrontations.

1.8 will change that slightly. With the nerf to rifles, shotguns will more more useful and better than a rifle on cqc.

I actually don't think the SG prof change is much of a nerf. In comparison to the rifles/SMG, I would say the shotty is actually coming out better than before. Although, against heavies, it's a huge nerf. You'll never kill a well fit heavy of the same meta as your shotgun in less than 3 hits, damage increase or not, so a higher RoF is always better against a heavy.

Spread reduction is a good thing, it concentrates the damage from each shot, making it much more likely to do full damage to your target. Yes, it's a bit harder to hit, but the reward for doing so is worth it. The only issue with it is that the hipfire reticule stays the same size as you level the skill, if it were to shrink to better represent the spread, most of the problems would disappear.

The shotgun may see a bit of a nerf as far as pubs go, but it's PC viability will increase with the nerf to rifles. I'm looking forward to getting back into PC again. The whole PC locking debacle/protest/thing started just as I finally got my Gal Scout fully PC viable, and my internet decided to screw me over just as the hotfix went into effect (and finals, trimesters ftw ).