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Ander Thedas
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Posted - 2014.03.18 16:56:00 -
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Things don't look SO bleak for AV. In the new patch notes they listed that doing damage to a vehicle will now grant WP. That means that vehicle repelling won't be a useless chore anymore that doesn't reward the AV player. It's a silver lining that might make a big difference.
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steadyhand amarr
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Posted - 2014.03.18 16:58:00 -
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You could end up 1st on your team with just a nanohive and swarm launcher if its 10 pts per hit for example. I recon most commados will start carrying swarms
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Posted - 2014.03.18 17:00:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:You could end up 1st on your team with just a nanohive and swarm launcher if its 10 pts per hit for example. I recon most commados will start carrying swarms
Wouldn't specifics be great.. Guess we'll find out exactly how that works now come next week.
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Aurra Field
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Posted - 2014.03.18 17:03:00 -
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It's a smart bit of player manipulation. As a Forge Gunner I might struggle a bit by myself, but when I run with a partner I can create a massive no-drive/fly zone around our emplacement regardless of how many the opposition spawns.
If they buffed my Forge so I could easily take out vehicles by myself, vehicles may as well not exist. |
Ander Thedas
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Posted - 2014.03.18 17:23:00 -
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Aurra Field wrote:It's a smart bit of player manipulation. As a Forge Gunner I might struggle a bit by myself, but when I run with a partner I can create a massive no-drive/fly zone around our emplacement regardless of how many the opposition spawns.
If they buffed my Forge so I could easily take out vehicles by myself, vehicles may as well not exist.
I think this highlights the issue pretty well. I forge sometimes, too, and feel the same way. Although with damage mods taking a hit no other weapon is hit as hard in pure numbers than the forge, so it's going to be even tougher out there for those fits.
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Cenex Langly
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Posted - 2014.03.18 17:27:00 -
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Ander Thedas wrote:Things don't look SO bleak for AV. In the new patch notes they listed that doing damage to a vehicle will now grant WP. That means that vehicle repelling won't be a useless chore anymore that doesn't reward the AV player. It's a silver lining that might make a big difference.
This doesn't help in the killing process... We all know orbital strikes are useless against tanks that can easily drive out of the orbital. So who cares about the wp now?
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Aero Yassavi
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Posted - 2014.03.18 17:36:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:You could end up 1st on your team with just a nanohive and swarm launcher if its 10 pts per hit for example. I recon most commados will start carrying swarms
Meh, until swarms are actually worth something I'd still rather use a forge and sidearm over swarm and light weapon.
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Dauth Jenkins
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Posted - 2014.03.18 17:39:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:You could end up 1st on your team with just a nanohive and swarm launcher if its 10 pts per hit for example. I recon most commados will start carrying swarms Meh, until swarms are actually worth something I'd still rather use a forge and sidearm over swarm and light weapon.
If people would start using the swarm launcher, it's actually not that bad in groups, everyone has one, the problem is no one wants to use it. Also, with the new magsec smg, you can't say that your defenceless to infantry
Sees prototompers...
Sees blueberries start to snipe...
Pulls out commando suit with laser rifle and swarm launcher...
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Kristoff Atruin
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Posted - 2014.03.18 17:43:00 -
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Part of the problem with running AV weapons is you got next to nothing for WP, which meant at the end of the match your payout was lower. If you died in your AV suit there was likely no hope of turning a profit that match. This could mean more people running AV instead of just trying to hide from the tanks, which could also mean there being enough firepower on the field to neuter a tank or kill it if he's too aggressive.
They'll still be powerful though, but until I see the changes in action I wouldn't want to assert that they'll still be ridiculously OP. The force multiplication of a tank still probably means the team using more tanks has an advantage, but with more AV on the field it might not be such a massive advantage. At least on skirmish / domination. |
Kristoff Atruin
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Posted - 2014.03.18 17:45:00 -
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Also, Caldari LP store - proto swarm launcher you can use at level 3. Almost every time I've used it recently I've been killing dropships and occasionally tanks. They never seem to be prepared for someone using a proto level AV weapon. |
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Harpyja
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Posted - 2014.03.18 17:45:00 -
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Cenex Langly wrote:Ander Thedas wrote:Things don't look SO bleak for AV. In the new patch notes they listed that doing damage to a vehicle will now grant WP. That means that vehicle repelling won't be a useless chore anymore that doesn't reward the AV player. It's a silver lining that might make a big difference. This doesn't help in the killing process... We all know orbital strikes are useless against tanks that can easily drive out of the orbital. So who cares about the wp now?
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Zirzo Valcyn
Kameira Lodge
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Posted - 2014.03.18 17:50:00 -
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do pilots get any share of WP if his gunner damages tank? i'm guessing we won't knowing how CCP loves to see pilots at the bottom of scoreboard.
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The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2014.03.18 18:10:00 -
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A good joke whats the point of getting WP for damaging when you will never be aible to blow the thing up?
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Tech Ohm Eaven
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Posted - 2014.03.18 18:17:00 -
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Ander Thedas wrote:Things don't look SO bleak for AV. In the new patch notes they listed that doing damage to a vehicle will now grant WP. That means that vehicle repelling won't be a useless chore anymore that doesn't reward the AV player. It's a silver lining that might make a big difference.
except forge fits are expensive.
those doing AV make perfect targets for snipers
but then enemy snipers leads to sniper hunting
so whatevs.
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Kristoff Atruin
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Posted - 2014.03.18 18:19:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:A good joke whats the point of getting WP for damaging when you will never be aible to blow the thing up?
If you make a tank run away instead of killing people then you've removed him from the equation of battle. You don't need to kill the tank to render it useless. In fact it's probably better from a strategic perspective, since if he dies he'll just call in another one. Drive him off and he'll spend more time driving around trying to find a new area to harass than if he just died. Scaring off tanks would be a team support role just like the logistics suit. WP for vehicle damage could and probably will mean some more people running AV again, which makes it less likely that the tank will run roughshod over the entire map. |
Ander Thedas
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Posted - 2014.03.18 21:02:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Ander Thedas wrote:Things don't look SO bleak for AV. In the new patch notes they listed that doing damage to a vehicle will now grant WP. That means that vehicle repelling won't be a useless chore anymore that doesn't reward the AV player. It's a silver lining that might make a big difference. except forge fits are expensive. those doing AV make perfect targets for snipers but then enemy snipers leads to sniper hunting so whatevs.
I have different tiered forge fits, but my pub one is pretty reasonably priced and really only makes the difference of requiring one extra shot from everything but my top end one. It's all about the balances you make, friend.
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