DUST Search - Any tankers actually preferred tanking before 1.7

Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:

Ansiiis The Engineer wrote:

Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:

Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:

I am not a tanker. Never was. Calling myself one would be a joke but I did indeed have a nice 1.8 Million SP Madrugar which I drove around skirmish and FW maps.

And in all honesty it was so much more enjoyable, I still remember getting killed by one swarm clip which was fired from the stratosphere but still. If I did everything right I would kill other tanks, get a ton of kills and what's important - I felt as if I had accomplished something.

Tank kills are not as personal anymore - take normal missiles, put them on a gunnlogi, activate 1 hardener and 2 damage mods, profit.

Nah man, I remember the Director.
You count as far as I'm concerned :P

But seriously. I think most pre-1.7 tankers miss the old tanks. Had they halved our price (and fixed SL rendering) I'd have been content.

As it is, I get my kicks from large missiles.

Do you remember this one?

Nope. I hear it's a secret forum alt or something like that.

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Ansiiis The Trustworthy Mocking Bird Inc. 872	Posted - 2014.03.18 09:39:00 - [1] - Quote I am not a tanker. Never was. Calling myself one would be a joke but I did indeed have a nice 1.8 Million SP Madrugar which I drove around skirmish and FW maps. And in all honesty it was so much more enjoyable, I still remember getting killed by one swarm clip which was fired from the stratosphere but still. If I did everything right I would kill other tanks, get a ton of kills and what's important - I felt as if I had accomplished something. Tank kills are not as personal anymore - take normal missiles, put them on a gunnlogi, activate 1 hardener and 2 damage mods, profit. you're the father
Racro 01 Arifistan 501st Knights of Leanbox INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 203	Posted - 2014.03.18 09:44:00 - [2] - Quote i prefered tanks from 1.6 and chromose to be honest. required actual player skill as well as income skill books/levles.
Crimson ShieId Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 222	Posted - 2014.03.18 09:50:00 - [3] - Quote My tank fit was crap (Two heavy reppers, one shield, one armor on a madruger) and I tended to die if anyone with a proto swarm looked at me funny, but it was indeed fun. I think a large part of that was due to A: The risk was very high. You were afraid to lose those tanks but when you used them and kicked the other team into the dirt, it was extremely rewarding, and B: Unless you had hundreds of millions, you weren't bringing out a tank every game and you didn't see tanks that often as they were so expensive. Now that that's gone, they're just... boring... and I'm honestly glad I dumped my vehicle skillpoints into dropsuits when 1.7 hit. Tanking just isn't that much fun anymore. Nova Knives are OP! Nerf em before you lose all your proto suits!
Sir Dukey KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 400	Posted - 2014.03.18 09:59:00 - [4] - Quote Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote: I am not a tanker. Never was. Calling myself one would be a joke but I did indeed have a nice 1.8 Million SP Madrugar which I drove around skirmish and FW maps. And in all honesty it was so much more enjoyable, I still remember getting killed by one swarm clip which was fired from the stratosphere but still. If I did everything right I would kill other tanks, get a ton of kills and what's important - I felt as if I had accomplished something. Tank kills are not as personal anymore - take normal missiles, put them on a gunnlogi, activate 1 hardener and 2 damage mods, profit. I DID IN CHROMOSOME!
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens League of Infamy 749	Posted - 2014.03.18 10:06:00 - [5] - Quote Been tanking for a year. I prefer 1.7. The reason why is because I have actual builds now. In Chromosome, I ran a Madugar with 3 Hardners, a Plate, and a Repairer. For the highs, I had a Scanner. That was it. The only thing that changed was if I put in a Blaster or a Railgun. When Tank's PG was nerfed coming out of beta, the build became 2 Hardeners, a Plate, a Repairer, and Blaster/Railgun. It was the same fit for everything. 1.7 is now different. 3 choices means hard choices and actual builds now. I have more tank fittings than I have Dropsuit settings because of how radically different they can be. Pre 1.7, there was a clear cut choice; the Staggered Hardener Madrugar was THE best option in the game. Everyone likes to state one set up is far superior than the others now but from my experience they all have their pros and cons. So I prefer 1.7.
Crimson ShieId Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 222	Posted - 2014.03.18 10:10:00 - [6] - Quote Joseph Ridgeson wrote: Been tanking for a year. I prefer 1.7. The reason why is because I have actual builds now. In Chromosome, I ran a Madugar with 3 Hardners, a Plate, and a Repairer. For the highs, I had a Scanner. That was it. The only thing that changed was if I put in a Blaster or a Railgun. When Tank's PG was nerfed coming out of beta, the build became 2 Hardeners, a Plate, a Repairer, and Blaster/Railgun. It was the same fit for everything. 1.7 is now different. 3 choices means hard choices and actual builds now. I have more tank fittings than I have Dropsuit settings because of how radically different they can be. Pre 1.7, there was a clear cut choice; the Staggered Hardener Madrugar was THE best option in the game. Everyone likes to state one set up is far superior than the others now but from my experience they all have their pros and cons. So I prefer 1.7. I'll give you that. The options are quite nice when it comes to tanking now. CCP definitely did a good job making multiple things viable instead of just the standard duel hardener fitting that everyone used to use. Nova Knives are OP! Nerf em before you lose all your proto suits!
Gauder Berwyck Deadly Blue Dots 318	Posted - 2014.03.18 10:13:00 - [7] - Quote Closed beta, around the time of the Developers Faction Cup. The Devs played 4 rounds against each of the factions, and posted some twitteresque updates as the battles were happening. Amarr f.ex: Oh noes, they got all objectives! Gallente: These guys are quick! Caldari......: Wait... they brought in HOW many tanks? I think there were like 8 of us pummeling them with railguns for the entire match. Two days later, tanks got a nerf
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 1068	Posted - 2014.03.18 10:19:00 - [8] - Quote I miss large missiles costing less to spec into. Its why I didn't bother with tanks this time around. Join the Channel - CPM1 Candidates - Get to know who's running. Delt for CPM1
Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death 2171	Posted - 2014.03.18 10:45:00 - [9] - Quote Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote: I am not a tanker. Never was. Calling myself one would be a joke but I did indeed have a nice 1.8 Million SP Madrugar which I drove around skirmish and FW maps. And in all honesty it was so much more enjoyable, I still remember getting killed by one swarm clip which was fired from the stratosphere but still. If I did everything right I would kill other tanks, get a ton of kills and what's important - I felt as if I had accomplished something. Tank kills are not as personal anymore - take normal missiles, put them on a gunnlogi, activate 1 hardener and 2 damage mods, profit. Nah man, I remember the Director. You count as far as I'm concerned :P But seriously. I think most pre-1.7 tankers miss the old tanks. Had they halved our price (and fixed SL rendering) I'd have been content. As it is, I get my kicks from large missiles. Real men do it with missiles. "True says I have to let Lorhak yell at people in PIE GC from now on."
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 3020	Posted - 2014.03.18 10:49:00 - [10] - Quote Prefered chrome Had adv/proto vehicle hulls and all the turrets were good to use and we had more mods and skills plus more variety in general with possible fits Pre 1.7 it just turned into swarms on a tower says no to everything, while armor >shield in every way while a 2mil+ tank was ******* useless PC was more against FG and other tanks but the odd swarm/AV nade scrub was about Doesnt matter expect it all to change again Intelligence is OP

sebastian the huds Legions of Infinite Dominion Zero-Day 56	Posted - 2014.03.18 10:59:00 - [11] - Quote I definitely liked tanking before it became so easy to skill into. It used to take real skill. If you only see from your point of view, you are doing it wrong.
Beld Errmon Nyain Chan 1439	Posted - 2014.03.18 11:08:00 - [12] - Quote Yep I much preferred the old school tanks, and distinctly dislike the fact that new money can compete with me, probably not the most endearing things to say but I like to be honest, getting killed by ppl with the barest hint of SP in tanks makes me rage, atleast ADS still require SP and actual skill.
Jakar Umbra Altyr Initiative 552	Posted - 2014.03.18 11:15:00 - [13] - Quote While I did not mainly tank, I had a few million in tanks. Enough for some proto armour and fittings and adv blasters, I loved tanks pre-1.7. I especially loved fitting them because of the crazy stuff you could do. Once stacked 3 damage mods into a maddy's lows just to see what would happen(why did they make dmg mods 30% hi-slot active modules again?). That was fun. I miss fitting tanks pre-1.7, the modules and fitting requirements made way more sense back then. Author of Umbra's Short Stories Boundless Creations Shareholder.
KalOfTheRathi Nec Tributis 1026	Posted - 2014.03.18 11:35:00 - [14] - Quote Absolutely! Beyond any doubt, without question. A turret had damage, heat cost, rate of fire plus range. One could also choose one that fired slower, hit harder and generated more heat. Then there was the one that cost a huge bump in CPU/PG but ran cooler AND gave longer optical range! Static cooling systems, active cooling systems and damage mods added to the mix. Now every single rail gun turret (to limit my explanation) can fire five rounds. The sixth will overheat. If you can track the shots fired by your opponent and they shoot six - the chance to pop that tank just skyrockets. Okay, back to < pre-Uprising. My favorite turret did 1106 damage. Which let you have five rounds like today. But running an active cooler let you fire 9 rounds. An Aussie friend of mine also ran the static cooler which let him fire 12 rounds. Now imagine coming up against three rail gunners. Standard Joe, myself and the Aussie. Even Clint Eastwood would be daunted, "Did I fire five rounds ... or nine rounds ... or twelve rounds". Now do the math and the only way to survive mine or my friends guns was for US to miss. Otherwise there wasn't a tank that can handle that much damage. Plus we could see and shoot across the map. The new QQ Kittens don't have any real comprehension of Red Line Tank Sniping. My best Sniper Rifle hit was a head shot at 1350m with a Farsight Sniper Rifle that shot stock @ 1000m (thus the Farsight) and cost AUR. Now, realize that a sniper that could make that shot could be murdered in kind by my Rail Gun or my Forge Guns, from farther away. And turrets worked. Rail Guns actually fired rounds and did damage. We could see to the other end of the map, not just shoot and pray. Uprising threw all that out and drove the final nail in the coffin at 1.7. Now we have Sicas that use double damage mods and pop tanks with three shots, two if they get lucky or use a Particle Accelerator. All flavored with tankers that get QQ about losing a slug fest and come at you with a Jihad Jeep. Okay, you killed me but not because you were any good, merely suicidal. Madrugers and Gunloggis have lost slots and the bonuses don't actually help. Armor bonus is 5% PG reduction per level, but we always over run on CPU before PG. So, not helping here dude. But we have immersion breaking freaking frakking grass that pops up as we walk or drive in the Dust. Because that is how it would be ====>> in Space. Did I mention we didn't have stupid volcano shader effects being present in the war barge or in the sniper scope? Yeah, none of that stuff was there. Just focus on what you wanted to do, get the ISK/AUR/SP and make it happen. Then be a Red killing beast while on other days you would wonder what it was exactly that you did wrong. Those days were good. And those days are gone. And so it goes.
shaman oga Nexus Balusa Horizon 1798	Posted - 2014.03.18 11:41:00 - [15] - Quote Except for AV that was too oppressive (invisible swarms, lollaidai, etc) tanking before 1.7 was better imo, there were more modules and tank vs infantry was more balanced than now, some little adjustment were needed but not a comnplete revolution like 1.7. 1.8 it's so secret that nobody know what will be in it, even after patch notes.. #SoloDoloreSuCharlie \o/ summon me
jerrmy12 kahoalii 540	Posted - 2014.03.18 11:42:00 - [16] - Quote Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote: I am not a tanker. Never was. Calling myself one would be a joke but I did indeed have a nice 1.8 Million SP Madrugar which I drove around skirmish and FW maps. And in all honesty it was so much more enjoyable, I still remember getting killed by one swarm clip which was fired from the stratosphere but still. If I did everything right I would kill other tanks, get a ton of kills and what's important - I felt as if I had accomplished something. Tank kills are not as personal anymore - take normal missiles, put them on a gunnlogi, activate 1 hardener and 2 damage mods, profit. Not really a fan of 1.6 and below You had to wait 30 seconds to repair anything and you had to run 2 armor hardenera to do anything... Closed beta vet Logi, Heavy, Python, Scout. Dark souls 2 new game plus.
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 1386	Posted - 2014.03.18 11:50:00 - [17] - Quote i liked chrome. a tank vs tank fight was faught and won before a single shot was fired. and the winner got to 1hk0 infantry with railgun splash from 600m away.
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1574	Posted - 2014.03.18 12:21:00 - [18] - Quote Missiles whield tanks were and are a joke. I really like them but they are still just too gimped for what you invest. Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES RISE of LEGION 1063	Posted - 2014.03.18 12:48:00 - [19] - Quote Tanking was best in the chromosome build back in beta. More variety, AV seemed to be a lot more balanced as were tanks. Afterwards they skewed it all in favour of AV where literally only THE BEST tankers survived. That's great but not much fun for the average guy. Now it is skewed in favour of the tankers so no, I dont like any of the builds until we go all the way back to chromosome. Investigate 9/11
Vulpes Dolosus SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1033	Posted - 2014.03.18 13:03:00 - [20] - Quote No. The Gunnlogi was god-awful and I hate armor tanks. Me in my ADS: 1,2

Harpyja Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1317	Posted - 2014.03.18 13:11:00 - [21] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote: I am not a tanker. Never was. Calling myself one would be a joke but I did indeed have a nice 1.8 Million SP Madrugar which I drove around skirmish and FW maps. And in all honesty it was so much more enjoyable, I still remember getting killed by one swarm clip which was fired from the stratosphere but still. If I did everything right I would kill other tanks, get a ton of kills and what's important - I felt as if I had accomplished something. Tank kills are not as personal anymore - take normal missiles, put them on a gunnlogi, activate 1 hardener and 2 damage mods, profit. Nah man, I remember the Director. You count as far as I'm concerned :P But seriously. I think most pre-1.7 tankers miss the old tanks. Had they halved our price (and fixed SL rendering) I'd have been content. As it is, I get my kicks from large missiles. I would've been fine in 1.6 if I had 1.7 large missiles and shield boosters. Also longer active hardener duration and slightly better acceleration on the Gunnlogi and I wouldn't be complaining. "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
Ansiiis The Engineer Mocking Bird Inc. 3	Posted - 2014.03.18 13:14:00 - [22] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote: I am not a tanker. Never was. Calling myself one would be a joke but I did indeed have a nice 1.8 Million SP Madrugar which I drove around skirmish and FW maps. And in all honesty it was so much more enjoyable, I still remember getting killed by one swarm clip which was fired from the stratosphere but still. If I did everything right I would kill other tanks, get a ton of kills and what's important - I felt as if I had accomplished something. Tank kills are not as personal anymore - take normal missiles, put them on a gunnlogi, activate 1 hardener and 2 damage mods, profit. Nah man, I remember the Director. You count as far as I'm concerned :P But seriously. I think most pre-1.7 tankers miss the old tanks. Had they halved our price (and fixed SL rendering) I'd have been content. As it is, I get my kicks from large missiles. Do you remember this one? a secret forum alt.
Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death 2176	Posted - 2014.03.18 13:17:00 - [23] - Quote Ansiiis The Engineer wrote: Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote: I am not a tanker. Never was. Calling myself one would be a joke but I did indeed have a nice 1.8 Million SP Madrugar which I drove around skirmish and FW maps. And in all honesty it was so much more enjoyable, I still remember getting killed by one swarm clip which was fired from the stratosphere but still. If I did everything right I would kill other tanks, get a ton of kills and what's important - I felt as if I had accomplished something. Tank kills are not as personal anymore - take normal missiles, put them on a gunnlogi, activate 1 hardener and 2 damage mods, profit. Nah man, I remember the Director. You count as far as I'm concerned :P But seriously. I think most pre-1.7 tankers miss the old tanks. Had they halved our price (and fixed SL rendering) I'd have been content. As it is, I get my kicks from large missiles. Do you remember this one? Nope. I hear it's a secret forum alt or something like that. Real men do it with missiles. "True says I have to let Lorhak yell at people in PIE GC from now on."
Ansiiis The Trustworthy Mocking Bird Inc. 876	Posted - 2014.03.18 13:20:00 - [24] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Ansiiis The Engineer wrote: Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote: I am not a tanker. Never was. Calling myself one would be a joke but I did indeed have a nice 1.8 Million SP Madrugar which I drove around skirmish and FW maps. And in all honesty it was so much more enjoyable, I still remember getting killed by one swarm clip which was fired from the stratosphere but still. If I did everything right I would kill other tanks, get a ton of kills and what's important - I felt as if I had accomplished something. Tank kills are not as personal anymore - take normal missiles, put them on a gunnlogi, activate 1 hardener and 2 damage mods, profit. Nah man, I remember the Director. You count as far as I'm concerned :P But seriously. I think most pre-1.7 tankers miss the old tanks. Had they halved our price (and fixed SL rendering) I'd have been content. As it is, I get my kicks from large missiles. Do you remember this one? Nope. I hear it's a secret forum alt or something like that. Umm. I don't know that guy. you're the father


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