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MarasdF Loron
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.18 11:20:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:MarasdF Loron wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:MarasdF Loron wrote:
I too know what causes each bug, but the shooting blanks and the railgun emptying the clip on it's own seem to happen at random. I also know how to avoid/work around every bug, but needless to say if the enemy knows what he's doing it will result in victory/getaway for him/her if I get any sort of bug in the middle of a fight... :/ Which is why I don't want to argue, I know they can be killed if all the planets align.
... the planets aligning is meant to signify a rare event.... not what happens 99% of the time i aim my railgun. there are two causes of shooting blanks module activation partially fireing your railgun but not completly the shot. the emptying glitch is is the same bug that effects the installations when they start shooting in all directions randomly on an infinate loop and is caused by something other then direct user input so you cant prevent that one... but getting out of your tank fixes it. if your having THIS much difficulty killing off a redline rail, your doing it very very wrong. Like I said, if I don't get a single bug, it's easy. But the chance for no bugs at all is very minimal. step by step instructions to get into a fight with a redline rail without encountering any bugs before the bastered dies step 1, get your position step 2, activate your damage mods step 3, get out of your tank step 4, get back in step 5, nuke the ***** there you go, 100% chance of not encountering a bug before they die. redline tanks dont move out of the redline (they dont move much at all unless bothered) so its easy to find a place to do this little ritual without any risk before you line up your shot.
I see you are playing completely different game than I am in a completely different world. Sigh. Some people...
R.I.P. Pre-1.7 tanks, you will be missed.
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Asha Starwind
DUST University
Ivy League
520
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Posted - 2014.03.18 11:21:00 -
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MarasdF Loron wrote:Asha Starwind wrote:My biggest peeve with the entire redline situation is why isn't all that area behind their spawn designated as a redline for them? There is no reason for a player to be allowed back there behind the spawn. There isn't a single valid reason. How about no supply depots that ground vehicles have access to anywhere else on the map, on some maps?
What does that have to do with the big ass hills/mountains behind 200m+ behind the redline?
Mad Bomber
Now with 50% less profile
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
1384
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Posted - 2014.03.18 11:23:00 -
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MarasdF Loron wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:MarasdF Loron wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:MarasdF Loron wrote:
I too know what causes each bug, but the shooting blanks and the railgun emptying the clip on it's own seem to happen at random. I also know how to avoid/work around every bug, but needless to say if the enemy knows what he's doing it will result in victory/getaway for him/her if I get any sort of bug in the middle of a fight... :/ Which is why I don't want to argue, I know they can be killed if all the planets align.
... the planets aligning is meant to signify a rare event.... not what happens 99% of the time i aim my railgun. there are two causes of shooting blanks module activation partially fireing your railgun but not completly the shot. the emptying glitch is is the same bug that effects the installations when they start shooting in all directions randomly on an infinate loop and is caused by something other then direct user input so you cant prevent that one... but getting out of your tank fixes it. if your having THIS much difficulty killing off a redline rail, your doing it very very wrong. Like I said, if I don't get a single bug, it's easy. But the chance for no bugs at all is very minimal. step by step instructions to get into a fight with a redline rail without encountering any bugs before the bastered dies step 1, get your position step 2, activate your damage mods step 3, get out of your tank step 4, get back in step 5, nuke the ***** there you go, 100% chance of not encountering a bug before they die. redline tanks dont move out of the redline (they dont move much at all unless bothered) so its easy to find a place to do this little ritual without any risk before you line up your shot. I see you are playing completely different game than I am in a completely different world. Sigh. Some people...
im not joking... do this ritual, getting in and out prevents you from shooting blanks, and and if it keeps shooting after dude eats 2 shots it doesnt matter because hes dead....
also dont get into a slugging match, if he sees you youve already lost and you should probably recall and reposition.
think less like two people duking it out, and more like you ninja ganking him while hes focused aiming like all snipers are.
you do know that holding down the trigger makes it continue shooting so you dont have to keep charging up the shot right? |
KalOfTheRathi
Nec Tributis
1028
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Posted - 2014.03.18 11:48:00 -
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XxGhazbaranxX wrote: --- snip lots of QQ about not being good enough to kill a tank --- Well, you might have to learn how to fight tanks. Sometimes that requires hard work, planning, skill and even sacrifice. You might even have to recognize that other tankers are often better than you.
Until then, singing the QQ Kitten song here is much easier.
Although, if you were in EVE Online the official answer would be HTFU.
Which I actually would agree with in this instance. 
And so it goes.
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XxGhazbaranxX
The New Age Outlaws
WINMATAR.
1113
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Posted - 2014.03.18 12:03:00 -
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KalOfTheRathi wrote:XxGhazbaranxX wrote: --- snip lots of QQ about not being good enough to kill a tank --- Well, you might have to learn how to fight tanks. Sometimes that requires hard work, planning, skill and even sacrifice. You might even have to recognize that other tankers are often better than you. Until then, singing the QQ Kitten song here is much easier. Although, if you were in EVE Online the official answer would be HTFU. Which I actually would agree with in this instance.
5 year eve vet here, redline rails would be considered an exploit and fixed the next day by CCP reykjavik. No risk = not CCP filosophy. The redline tank is not about being good, its about being soo bad you fear going out and fighting.
Get back under your bridge
Plasma Cannon Advocate
Heavy event survivor
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Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
1574
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Posted - 2014.03.18 12:16:00 -
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Why is the redline a game changer for rail tanks? Rail tanks anywhere on the field are a problem. They are no skill, little cost powerhouses. They are not a risk anywhere. They pull right up to the opposing redline and camp it with equal effectivness.
Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!
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XxGhazbaranxX
The New Age Outlaws
WINMATAR.
1113
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Posted - 2014.03.18 12:19:00 -
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Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:Why is the redline a game changer for rail tanks? Rail tanks anywhere on the field are a problem. They are no skill, little cost powerhouses. They are not a risk anywhere. They pull right up to the opposing redline and camp it with equal effectivness.
Well yes and no. A tank outside can be fought but a tank inside a redline runs no risk or very minimal risk of dying.
Plasma Cannon Advocate
Heavy event survivor
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calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
2170
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Posted - 2014.03.18 13:03:00 -
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XxGhazbaranxX wrote:PictureI know this topic has been talked about a lot but I feel Like I have to put something here because it's just for lack of better words an exploit. We brought out railgun tanks of our own but in the redline they cant be killed. They got hit once and just hid behind cover. Nothing could be done, not even bomb LAV's because of terrain and distance. The fight was equalish but no other type of play could be done. Air and ground where dominated by two guys with milita railgun tanks. They did not risk a thing to do it and got their isk at the end of the battle. This is wrong.
Theres some debate about 1 shotting the reline railgun tanks with a proto turret. Yes this is possible but why should I need a fully specced railgun tank with a meager defenses because I have to fit for damage when they are not risking anything. I risk a proto turret and they risk nothing. Not equal, not fair, not balanced.
you don't need a proto turret all you need is triple damage mods, if they are a sica any turret will do for them. |
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