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Ghosts Chance
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Posted - 2014.03.18 03:57:00 -
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there can be 1-5 tanks on the field, and at most the infantry will bring out 1 maybe 2 AV fits in responce.
but a single assault dropship will cause the enamy team to bring out multiple tanks, 1-3 forge guns and 2-5 swarms in responce?
if you guys did that against the tank spam they wouldnt be able to walk all over you...
and dont give me the "vulnerable to infantry" excuse because aparently your not vulnerable enough to stop you from dedicating half a team to kill off a single dropship. |
Ghosts Chance
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Posted - 2014.03.18 04:03:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:ADS are easy to kill, tanks are not. That's why.
with multiple rails, 2 forges and 3 swarmers tanks are stupid easy to kill, but for some reason only an ADS provokes a team to bring all that out. |
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Posted - 2014.03.18 04:07:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:there can be 1-5 tanks on the field, and at most the infantry will bring out 1 maybe 2 AV fits in responce.
but a single assault dropship will cause the enamy team to bring out multiple tanks, 1-3 forge guns and 2-5 swarms in responce?
if you guys did that against the tank spam they wouldnt be able to walk all over you...
and dont give me the "vulnerable to infantry" excuse because aparently your not vulnerable enough to stop you from dedicating half a team to kill off a single dropship. Because a couple of swarm volleys can scare off a DS. Do that to a Soma & you'll be lucky if it gets down to armour. Do it to a Gunnlogi and you will literally not do any damage.
and solo thats true....
but the amount of damage 3 swarmers puts out cannot be ignored... add in some forge action and BOOM.
for some reason people seem SPAM av at a dropship, but arnt willing to do the same against tanks?
methinks the only reason they try to spam is BECAUSE its easy, against anything that would require spam to kill nobody wants to even try.
tanks were balanced around the spam potential and in repose everyone refused to spam AV against tanks. but they will still do it against dropships becuase they still percieve it as easy.
basically if people put half as much effort into AVing tanks as they do dropships then tanks wouldnt be stomping around unmolested right now. |
Ghosts Chance
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Posted - 2014.03.18 04:26:00 -
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being a dropship pilot tells me, people only want to counter you if its easy.
if it feels at all like a challenge then its easyer to get it nerfed. |
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Posted - 2014.03.18 05:04:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:there can be 1-5 tanks on the field, and at most the infantry will bring out 1 maybe 2 AV fits in responce.
but a single assault dropship will cause the enamy team to bring out multiple tanks, 1-3 forge guns and 2-5 swarms in responce?
if you guys did that against the tank spam they wouldnt be able to walk all over you...
and dont give me the "vulnerable to infantry" excuse because aparently your not vulnerable enough to stop you from dedicating half a team to kill off a single dropship. Seriously, it's ********. I have myself seen a team just bend over for an entire squad of tanks, but all pull Forge Guns and Swarms for a single Incubus.
im convinced that people just do NOT want to do anything thats marginally difficult...
although i am in favor of a hardner nerf (as in you can only have one hardener) |
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Posted - 2014.03.18 05:47:00 -
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Vicious Minotaur wrote:There is absolutely zero fun to be had attempting to counter HAVs with conventional AV weapons. But there is a lot of frustration to be had... Especially at the hands of the supersized 1.6 ARs that masquerade around as HAVs.
Countering dropships approaches an area that may be called "fun." Compared to countering HAVs, there is the equivalent of zero frustration to be had.
This is a game. I don't play to be frustrated. If I wanted frustration, I'd pay attention to politics or watch the news.
its only fun to kill something when its super easy and you only wish to be up against things that are super easy for you to kill, got it.
and you would rather frustratingly die by not killing it then be frusterated by killing it. |
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Posted - 2014.03.18 05:55:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:It's because a tank can take out 3 of those AV players before they are able to become a serious threat, and you only ever see 0-2 AV players remaining that can do something about the tank.
Also, the more you kill with an ADS the more will switch to AV on their next spawn because they know they can easily take it out. Also, dropships are more annoying...like mass drivers.
Tanks don't always make people switch to AV though.
it just amuses me becuase the amount of AV peopel bring out against dropships is enough to take out the tanks... and yet people wont do it against tanks, they would just rather complain about it despite SHOWING that they are capable of bringing that kind of firepower to bare.
its kinda like a toddler stamping their feet screaming "i dont wanna" despite however much worse it makes the situation for them. |
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Posted - 2014.03.18 06:43:00 -
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Nosid Katona wrote:Well personally I fear ADS more then Tanks for the simple reson that I've seen what a certain Onslaught ADS pilot can do.
As for why people pull out more AV for ADS then Tanks is because if we kill an ADS there is a 90% chance the pilot won't bring it out again; MLT Tanks however can be killed and pulled out almost endlessly and all the time your spending as AV to hold off 1-2 Tanks their 15 other players are killing, hacking, and winning the match.
so the fun is in denying someone their favorite playstyle...
you derive fun from denying someone else fun? |
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Posted - 2014.03.18 14:01:00 -
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GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR wrote:Luna Angelo wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:Nosid Katona wrote:Well personally I fear ADS more then Tanks for the simple reson that I've seen what a certain Onslaught ADS pilot can do.
As for why people pull out more AV for ADS then Tanks is because if we kill an ADS there is a 90% chance the pilot won't bring it out again; MLT Tanks however can be killed and pulled out almost endlessly and all the time your spending as AV to hold off 1-2 Tanks their 15 other players are killing, hacking, and winning the match. so the fun is in denying someone their favorite playstyle... you derive fun from denying someone else fun? Ghost, you and I are buddies, are we not? So I can say this: Denying someone else their favorite playstyle, in other words, what they're good at, is the whole point of tactics. As a dropship pilot, you know this, as you are forcing as many people to go AV as possible. Most would rather shoot infantry all day (I know I would) and yo deny them that luxury. Yes we are ,different corps but same game send an invite whenever 07
lol im glad thats how it turned out, i was worried that i had forgotten someone and was desperatly trying to remember who they were. |
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Posted - 2014.03.18 22:47:00 -
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Luna Angelo wrote:
I WAS talking to Ghosts Chance. We agree on quite a bit, and have played together (on a different character), so....
And ANNIHILATOR, yeah, we do need to sqd, we have yet to do so.
oops
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