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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.03.17 08:36:00 -
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Is the stamina cost of jumping a % value, or is it a fixed value? I really want to know this before 1.8 hits.
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Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.03.17 08:44:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:Is the stamina cost of jumping a % value, or is it a fixed value? I really want to know this before 1.8 hits. The minmatar assault with its sick stamina regen, but low stamina pool, might be a great suit after all? You will be hopping like a crazed bunny.
Ah a tricky topic. I have done some tests:
If you add a cardiac regulator you can jump more often as without, also your stamina bar depletes less. This indicates that jumping cost a fix amount of stamina OR a % percentage of your BASE stamina.
To make things even more complicated the second jump cost more stamina than the first.
*edit*
After looking here it seems stamina cost for jumping has a fixed value.
For the gallente scout its 65 pts of stamina but there is is always the possibility of misreading the information there. |
Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.03.17 08:49:00 -
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So, what this means is that the increased stamina recharge rate in 1.8 will prove to be quite useful?
i.e. minmatar assault great for evasive maneuvers. amarr scout great for running long distances (permasprint) and great for outmaneuvering your enemies.
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DozersMouse XIII
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2014.03.17 09:47:00 -
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actually a larger stamina pool gives you more jumping
if you just spam x your pool will deplete faster and in larger chunks after every jump
if you have a large pool (I did this with 800+ stamina and 77 regen) you can jump infinite
the trick is timing every jump
so you sprint, jump, land, sprint, jump, land
if you time it right you will see your stamina regen make your stamina pool go slightly up after every jump
the slight regen cancels out the large chunks of stamina to be pulled from your large pool
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.03.17 09:49:00 -
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DozersMouse XIII wrote:actually a larger stamina pool gives you more jumping
if you just spam x your pool will deplete faster and in larger chunks after every jump
if you have a large pool (I did this with 800+ stamina and 77 regen) you can jump infinite
the trick is timing every jump
so you sprint, jump, land, sprint, jump, land
if you time it right you will see your stamina regen make your stamina pool go slightly up after every jump
the slight regen cancels out the large chunks of stamina to be pulled from your large pool
So it is not percent based?
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DozersMouse XIII
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2014.03.17 09:57:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:DozersMouse XIII wrote:actually a larger stamina pool gives you more jumping
if you just spam x your pool will deplete faster and in larger chunks after every jump
if you have a large pool (I did this with 800+ stamina and 77 regen) you can jump infinite
the trick is timing every jump
so you sprint, jump, land, sprint, jump, land
if you time it right you will see your stamina regen make your stamina pool go slightly up after every jump
the slight regen cancels out the large chunks of stamina to be pulled from your large pool
So it is not percent based? I guess it would be if you just spam x to jump
with that 800 stamina and 77 regen if I spammed x I could only jump 5 times
my stamina pool depleted 5%, 10%, 15%, 20%, 50%
the last jump took half of my stamina pool while the jumps before the 5th took small to bigger chunks
I beleve the minmatars fast stamina regen will allow for bunny hopping if timed right
but the bigger ther pool the more jumps you will achive
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DozersMouse XIII
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2014.03.17 10:01:00 -
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try it out on your current suit with some cardiac modules
if you time it right you can jump allot more then just hitting x, x, x, x
when you jump make sure you land and the regen kicks a little then wash rinse repeat
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Mad Syringe
ReDust Inc.
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Posted - 2014.03.17 10:05:00 -
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Stamina is one of the most underrated things in this game. Since I figured that a green bottle is also helping to jump higher, I've put a complex green on most of my suits. It helps so much to move fast in city objectives if you can jump over the rails anywhere. For my logi fits it's mandatory, ecxept for the entrenched heavy support fits... |
Musta Tornius
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.17 10:58:00 -
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The SDE says it's just a flat attribute: mCharProp.movementRun.jumpStaminaCost . No percentages, just a number that is used everytime you jump.
There is also the mCharProp.movementSprint.jumpStaminaCost for sprinting, a different for walking etc. It doesn't mean that they aren't set to the same value though :)
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.03.17 11:11:00 -
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Musta Tornius wrote:The SDE says it's just a flat attribute: mCharProp.movementRun.jumpStaminaCost . No percentages, just a number that is used everytime you jump.
There is also the mCharProp.movementSprint.jumpStaminaCost for sprinting, a different for walking etc. It doesn't mean that they aren't set to the same value though :)
Thanks man. In that case I am now considering the Amarr scout. Cardiac regulator fitting cost > Profile dampener fitting cost ;)
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.03.17 11:14:00 -
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Double post.
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Sir Dukey
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.03.17 11:16:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:Is the stamina cost of jumping a % value, or is it a fixed value? I really want to know this before 1.8 hits. The minmatar assault with its sick stamina regen, but low stamina pool, might be a great suit after all? You will be hopping like a crazed bunny.
1st jump costs less stamina and the second takes up like most of the left over stamina. |
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