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Avinash Decker
Seykal Expeditionary Group
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.03.17 04:20:00 -
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Because Armored core is an older franchise compared to Eve the fans I expect are use to the 'issues' that occur in Armored core . Also Armored core is a hard game by design Dust is supposedly that but CCP messed up the design part . CCP is probably okay if Dust ends up niche , but it depends on what is 'niche' . Dark souls is niche , but is most likely more actively played and is more popular , the same for Arma , and the same goes with Eve . The problem with Dust being niche in these sort of way would basically mean that, considering this is a lobby based game, it needs players to play or else the game would be to time consuming to find matches and could get repetitive fighting the same people over again. Another issue is that if that said niche game is unique in itself ; the reason niche games exist , but at is current Dust is anything but . Even if dust gets more unique it has to be unique enough for people to care people as in other than dust players .
So that is why a lot of people probably are not accepting of dust being a niche game because to them is a bad one and that a lot of people on the forums are unhappy that dust didn't turn out they hoped . |
Avinash Decker
Seykal Expeditionary Group
Minmatar Republic
109
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Posted - 2014.03.17 18:39:00 -
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You are not fully understanding on what I am saying . On the subject of Armored being a established franchise , yes it is most likely true the same folks that are fans of the franchise stuck with the franchise for a long time , it is the same for any franchise ever. I saying since when fans first started playing a Armored Core game fans are use to the "issues" present in Armored core and most likely won't complain about it unless the franchise deviates from its intend design which is being a difficult game . Unlike dust the game only has been around in under a under a year and hasn't gotten a mature community yet so fans aren't most likely going to be use to the issues that is in Dust and a lot of people played other FPS titles so they expect high quality especially after CCP hyped the game up a bit and promised a lot of things ; additionally a lot of people hoped this game would replace FPS games they don't find enjoyment in what they got was a disappointment with the finally product, not releasing the features that was hyped about . All that is left is the gameplay but if many people don't find that to be great people leave to areas that grants them on what they want and that area isn't dust . That is one of the reasons why I suspect some people won't accept dust 514 right now. In short dust 514 community isn't the community of Armored core.
CCP wanted Dust to a more of a hardcore game ; a thinking man's shooter not to the point of complexity as seen in Eve . But the issues is that that the design is poor in comparison of a game like Dark souls which is a better designed hard game. Essentially you was agreeing to what I said anyway . Those reason you gave out is why Dust is a poorly design hard game and therefore a bad niche title . Again another reason why the some parts of the fanbase doesn't accept dust in its current form.
Your last few paragraphs touches on the same subject. It needs players because otherwise it will lose potent new players and vets who want a better or different experience. Dust needs a "healthy" population otherwise you will encounter problems I told you about . Right now it is okay , but if dust doesn't do a better job of drawing in more players it will lose them in time. Again you fail to understand , it isn't about popularity what I said about those games was a factual statement I decided to use. The reason I brought it up because the reason those games are rated better , has good/better reputation , praised by gamers by word of month , and more popular is because those games are good at what they do dust isn't good at what it is suppose to be doing. The uniqueness you described isn't something that lot of people experience nor possibly care about . Players care about good gameplay otherwise you won't hear most people on the forums complaining about that , the game being poorly rated , new players leaving , etc . Lastly yes some those experiences can be experienced else where and in games that are better designed; in those FPS titles you listed it just that very little people care, if they did care more a lot more people would be playing this game.
This is the reasons I suspect why large parts of the community gives this game negative responses . But you have to ask those people themselves , but it doesn't seem many of them replied . |
Avinash Decker
Seykal Expeditionary Group
Minmatar Republic
110
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Posted - 2014.03.18 17:46:00 -
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No I saying you aren't fully understanding how the arguments are tying in to the overall topic about why some fans can't accept dust how it supposedly should be. Also I said when fans first started playing " a Armored core game" not the first build. A quite a few most likely played the ones during the ps2 era and stuck around , as you know it is a niche title and not very popular so of course a lot of the older fans stuck for it.
As for your second point dust had way worse issues in comparison to those games. All those issues you listed that those games suffered happen in sometimes worse portions in Dust those games either fixed it in a short time or was fixed in the next installment , Dust on the other hand had a year long beta , but as you see it spent 6+ months fixing the issues that most fps games don't necessarily need to fix. Secondly as for quality , basically if the game is good at what it is suppose to do COD and BF absolutely achieves that while Dust hasn't gotten around to the "MMO" aspect at all. If players can't find the quality in this game they will move to something else permanently or send a lot of there time playing a different game which a lot of them did.
And dust is bad of a extension Eve which makes players more disappointed . It doesn't matter if the difficulty is manufactured by the players all it matters if the game is inaccessible to the players and it is . But in a why it is their fault. When designing a game you have to take into account of the possible exploits that might happen in the game . Nonetheless , it doesn't matter if it is CCPs fault or not it is happening and drawing players away and causing the new players to stay clear from this game.
A healthy population is one that doesn't make players wait for matches for a long time . Some people are bored , but sticking around to see if something new pops up , sticking around because of their friends still play , and dozens of other reasons . Regardless if the some parts of the population sticks around if the game doesn't fulfill the them eventually they will leave .
That's you , but a quite a few other players don't feel the same way nor do they care , the game doesn't fulfill them at all and are the people that complains about the issues you see and about the issues you made a topic about. All the reasons I gave might be the reasons players are upset with the game right now as I said to you a few times already that's why I keep bring it up because they are the reasons people don't accept this game. The very simple reason is that to them Dust is a bad game and/or bad at doing what it is suppose to be doing, simple as that. |
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