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Pete B
Dogs of War Gaming
Zero-Day
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Posted - 2014.03.16 23:35:00 -
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Cause if you don't then I would understand why you haven't sorted the obvious and glaring issue of matchmaking.
Seriously, if you're a solo player, then you're pretty much ****** in trying to find a game where the odds aren't stacked against you, in factional or public. It gets on my nerves SO SO much when I join a game, see a full squad of SVER True Blood, Nyain San, or generally a full squad of people from a single corp, and I predict with almost complete accuracy that the team with the squad is going to win hands down.
The other issue is people using prototype or advanced gear and just curb stomping the other side. Its nice and all to see you're the head of a corp and willing to steal other people's taxes, or you're new-character farming ISK, but can you guys keep your e-peen in your pants for two seconds so you can play a fair game? It sickens me when I spawn and see my entire team is using militia or standard, and when I start fighting I see the other team using proto or advanced.
Third issue with me being thrown into already losing games. Its so freaking annoying when I search for a game, get put into the loading screen, and while in the loading screen I hear "Mission failed - Proto stompers circle jerked over your team's corpse". And if I'm lucking I might even see the last minute or so of a losing game, seeing the tickers start at 5 - 120 and end at 0-119.
How can you not see these things are issues CCP? And don't tell me you're dealing with it, or that its hard to deal with, or that you have better things to deal with. The issue can easily be dealt with in a hotfix patch and wouldn't even need to be downloaded client side.
Can you please;
Create a squad free game mode. Where new players or solo players can play without getting swatted like flies by organized squads.
Stop players from entering games where the mean average of MCC health and clone count isn't 1 with a tolerance of 20%;((MMC1/MMC2)+(Clone1/Clone2))/2
And in public matches create an algorithm that basically takes into account the player's capital (useable assets, ISK, and to a lesser extent AUR and loyalty points) and pits them against people of the same capital, and in game ISK cannot be transfered but stuff can still be bought. That way proto stompers stay with proto stompers. |
Syeven Reed
RETR0 PR0 GAMERS
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Posted - 2014.03.17 00:05:00 -
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There are always going to be solo players on the loosing side, and the winning. But guess which side complains!
Gÿé Syeven 514
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Aeon Amadi
Edimmu Warfighters
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.03.17 00:13:00 -
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Just went 25/1 solo, -not- using Proto gear, Rail Rifles or Tanks.
Depends on the player I suppose.
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da GAND
L.O.T.I.S.
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
507
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Posted - 2014.03.17 00:24:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Just went 25/1 solo, -not- using Proto gear, Rail Rifles or Tanks.
Depends on the player I suppose.
sniping?
After Uprisings release the forums were a bad place, I'll never forget how CCP screwed up so badly.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
1087
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Posted - 2014.03.17 00:27:00 -
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Pete B wrote:Seriously, if you're a solo player, then you're pretty much ****** in trying to find a game where the odds aren't stacked against you, in factional or public.
Working as intended. This is not a solo game. CCP wants you in a squad and in a corporation as soon as you can.
No, they don't intend on changing this. No, it isn't broken. Yes, you have been playing Dust wrong and owe CCP an apology for doing so.
"I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
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KalOfTheRathi
Nec Tributis
1015
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Posted - 2014.03.17 00:28:00 -
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There is No Matchmaking In Dust514.
With no matchmaking there is nothing to solve. Something would have to exist to even allow them to fix it.
There is no PvE either. There is Pub Stomping by Proto equipped squads though. That has been true for a long time. 
And so it goes.
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Pete B
Dogs of War Gaming
Zero-Day
112
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Posted - 2014.03.17 00:30:00 -
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Syeven Reed wrote:There are always going to be solo players on the loosing side, and the winning. But guess which side complains!
Solo players on the winning and losing side? If I play 100 public games solo, do you want to have a guess how many of those are winning vs losing? Have a wild guess.
I'm willing to give up all my ISK (20mill lol, next to nothing), to say that if we get a random selection of 20 players, and ask those 20 players to play another 20 games solo, so 400 games in total with varied skill levels, I am willing to bet that there will be a losing to winning ration of 15 losers to 1 winning. |
Aeon Amadi
Edimmu Warfighters
Gallente Federation
5212
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Posted - 2014.03.17 00:39:00 -
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da GAND wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Just went 25/1 solo, -not- using Proto gear, Rail Rifles or Tanks.
Depends on the player I suppose. sniping?
Nope.
http://i.imgur.com/7gfqfES.jpg
EDIT: Assault Rifle and Scrambler Pistol. In preparation for the Ion Pistol.
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Syeven Reed
RETR0 PR0 GAMERS
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Posted - 2014.03.17 00:46:00 -
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Pete B wrote:Syeven Reed wrote:There are always going to be solo players on the loosing side, and the winning. But guess which side complains! Solo players on the winning and losing side? If I play 100 public games solo, do you want to have a guess how many of those are winning vs losing? Have a wild guess. I'm willing to give up all my ISK (20mill lol, next to nothing), to say that if we get a random selection of 20 players, and ask those 20 players to play another 20 games solo, so 400 games in total with varied skill levels, I am willing to bet that there will be a losing to winning ration of 15 losers to 1 winning.
Go logi, even basic stuff will make you annoying to the enemy and improve your chances of winning. Plus even if you are loosing as much as you say you are, because your making the points you'll still get a good payout.
Also if you want hook me up, I'll squad with you and change those losses into wins!
Gÿé Syeven 514
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Derpty Derp
It's All Gone Derp
134
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Posted - 2014.03.17 00:48:00 -
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Just because you're running solo, doesn't mean you shouldn't work as part of the team... That's why you're losing, I've seen Corps lose to a bunch of randoms many times, it just takes the solo players to think about how they can help their team to stand a better chance of winning.
Also on the proto gear side... If you and an enemy go 1 on 1 with exactly the same gear, how do you win? Answer you have to shoot the enemy more than they shoot you... So if someone has proto gear on and you don't, just make sure you shoot them a lot more than they shoot you & there's no problem. |
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Pete B
Dogs of War Gaming
Zero-Day
113
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Posted - 2014.03.17 00:48:00 -
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This game is so painfully one sided.
I don't even know why I play with game anymore. No one gives a damn about people not doing well and presume their bumbling idiots who just aren't good, while people exploiting the system, shitting on the the people who aren't doing well, and aren't actually contributing are seen as great people.
Kinda like real life huh. |
Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
Lokun Listamenn
3526
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Posted - 2014.03.17 00:54:00 -
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Yea CCP plays their own game, while being in a sqaud
B O O M!
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Malkai Inos
Onikanabo Brigade
Caldari State
1271
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Posted - 2014.03.17 01:07:00 -
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Pete B wrote:Syeven Reed wrote:There are always going to be solo players on the loosing side, and the winning. But guess which side complains! Solo players on the winning and losing side? If I play 100 public games solo, do you want to have a guess how many of those are winning vs losing? Have a wild guess. I'm willing to give up all my ISK (20mill lol, next to nothing), to say that if we get a random selection of 20 players, and ask those 20 players to play another 20 games solo, so 400 games in total with varied skill levels, I am willing to bet that there will be a losing to winning ration of 15 losers to 1 winning. A testable hypothesis? Cool! Do it and report back. Looking forward to to some quantified data.
Until then, and i'm sorry to say that, but when you're not on the winning side around half the time by chance alone, with yourself being the only constant, there is reason to believe you are directly contributing to the bad outcome of those matches.
You can take a benign object, -you can take a cheeseburger and deconstruct it to its source...
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
7408
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Posted - 2014.03.17 01:31:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:da GAND wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Just went 25/1 solo, -not- using Proto gear, Rail Rifles or Tanks.
Depends on the player I suppose. sniping? Nope. http://i.imgur.com/7gfqfES.jpgEDIT: Assault Rifle and Scrambler Pistol. In preparation for the Ion Pistol.
I remember when GEKs use to be OP.
Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer
Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
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Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
763
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Posted - 2014.03.17 01:39:00 -
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Derpty Derp wrote:Just because you're running solo, doesn't mean you shouldn't work as part of the team... That's why you're losing, I've seen Corps lose to a bunch of randoms many times, it just takes the solo players to think about how they can help their team to stand a better chance of winning.
Also on the proto gear side... If you and an enemy go 1 on 1 with exactly the same gear, how do you win? Answer you have to shoot the enemy more than they shoot you... So if someone has proto gear on and you don't, just make sure you shoot them a lot more than they shoot you & there's no problem.
Just because your solo doesn't mean you can't/aren't working as part of a team. There's not exactly much to this game that requires high level teamwork. Keep objectives capped, teammates alive and supplied and reds dead.
CCP you better nail 1.8, as it stands 1.7 is a total disaster.
Henchmen21: Infantry
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
The Containment Unit
399
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Posted - 2014.03.17 01:39:00 -
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da GAND wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Just went 25/1 solo, -not- using Proto gear, Rail Rifles or Tanks.
Depends on the player I suppose. sniping?
What did you mean by that question , " sniping ? " .. like it's easy to go 25 and 1 on a continual basis or like it's skill less and easy even ?
Are you trying to insult sniping ?
Just asking ... because that's how it sounds.
Leave all negative comments about tanks in the bin marked " TRASH " and we'll get to it as soon as possible . Thank You
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
The Containment Unit
399
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Posted - 2014.03.17 01:48:00 -
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Derpty Derp wrote:Just because you're running solo, doesn't mean you shouldn't work as part of the team... That's why you're losing, I've seen Corps lose to a bunch of randoms many times, it just takes the solo players to think about how they can help their team to stand a better chance of winning.
Also on the proto gear side... If you and an enemy go 1 on 1 with exactly the same gear, how do you win? Answer you have to shoot the enemy more than they shoot you... So if someone has proto gear on and you don't, just make sure you shoot them a lot more than they shoot you & there's no problem.
Not to question what you are saying because I can agree with a lot of what you say but this is what I don't understand , how people can complain about proto stomper's wearing proto when if they did wear militia their militia would still hit like a proto or an advanced with damage mods , especially if they use multiple damage mods .. the outcome would still be the same and in fact they would be saving money but would have to deal with the discomfort of having an inferior suit even though the mods might not be the suit is so one is limited.
Basically there is no difference and in fact their doing you a favor if you can kill them , that's more money for you.
Leave all negative comments about tanks in the bin marked " TRASH " and we'll get to it as soon as possible . Thank You
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