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Magnus Amadeuss wrote:

Atiim wrote:

I put an Energizer ........................... as a Sentinel cannot sufficiently rep their Armor by themselves.

unfortunately getting used too.

Did you seriously use the 1HP/s as an assertion..............................(This assumes Max. HP and gk.0 suit, which moves at 3.14m/s) Lol?

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stuff about amarr weaponry

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But since we want to talk about having a bonus to useless weapons, let's take an objective look at the Commando Bonuses shall we?

Amarr Commando Bonuses:

Scrambler Rifle
Assault Scrambler Rifle
Laser Rifle

Gallente Commando Bonuses:

Assault Rifle
Burst Assault Rifle
Breach Assault Rifle
Tactical Assault Rifle
Plasma Cannon
Shotgun

Minmatar Commando Bonuses:

Combat Rifle
Assault Combat Rifle
Swarm Launcher
Specialist Swarm Launcher
Assault Swarm Launcher
Mass Driver
Breach Mass Driver
Assault Mass Driver

Caldari Commando Bonuses

Rail Rifle
Assault Rail Rifle
Sniper Rifle
Tactical Sniper Rifle
Charge Sniper Rifle
Specialist Sniper Rifle

To prevent myself from being misleading as you claim me to be, I took the liberty of highlighting weapons (and their variants) of items that are underpowered, and/or receiving an unnecessary nerf in 1.8 that will make the underpowered.

Your complaining about your Commando not having worthwhile bonuses, while the Caldari and Gallente Commandos have a damage bonus to only one weapon worth running? Lol?

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As for the reload bonus, the Caldari and Minmatar don't need the reload bonus either. Arguably, their is no need for the reload bonus at all due to the exploit that allows you to shorten the reload animation. The only Commando who could possibly benifit from this is the Gallente, and you think this makes the Amarr Commando not worth using? Lol?


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DEZKA DIABLO 0uter.Heaven 396	Posted - 2014.03.17 01:22:00 - [1] - Quote Scout Registry wrote: Welcome! I see that you have an Amarr head and are commenting on the state of the upcoming Amarr Scout. You're doing great so far. To bring our newcomers up-to-speed, let's take a moment to recap the plan: 1) Demand everything under the sun; if we bombard CCP, we just might confuse them. 2) Quantity > Quality. Reason, logic, math, etc? Not necessary. We want VOLUME. 3) Use Text Walls where possible. Very important. 4) Never, ever played as Scout? Don't intend to? Doesn't matter. Most of us haven't either. 5) Be the victim! Play the race card. Get Angry! Just don't mention the ScR. And don't forget the Golden Rule: Never engage actual Scouts in debate. They will make you look stupid in your own thread. Now get out there and make some Noise! Dude ur awesome! Dead trigger master , an ya I do that ISH ON PURPOSE!
DEZKA DIABLO 0uter.Heaven 398	Posted - 2014.03.17 10:19:00 - [2] - Quote True Adamance wrote: DEZKA DIABLO wrote: Scout Registry wrote: Welcome! I see that you have an Amarr head and are commenting on the state of the upcoming Amarr Scout. You're doing great so far. To bring our newcomers up-to-speed, let's take a moment to recap the plan: 1) Demand everything under the sun; if we bombard CCP, we just might confuse them. 2) Quantity > Quality. Reason, logic, math, etc? Not necessary. We want VOLUME. 3) Use Text Walls where possible. Very important. 4) Never, ever played as Scout? Don't intend to? Doesn't matter. Most of us haven't either. 5) Be the victim! Play the race card. Get Angry! Just don't mention the ScR. And don't forget the Golden Rule: Never engage actual Scouts in debate. They will make you look stupid in your own thread. Now get out there and make some Noise! Dude ur awesome! Thus far the only people who have appeared stupid are those who have refused to engage Magnus in reasonable discussion. I drag him behind the boat best I can Dead trigger master , an ya I do that ISH ON PURPOSE!
DEZKA DIABLO 0uter.Heaven 398	Posted - 2014.03.17 10:28:00 - [3] - Quote Magnus Amadeuss wrote: Atiim wrote: I put an Energizer ........................... as a Sentinel cannot sufficiently rep their Armor by themselves. unfortunately getting used too. Did you seriously use the 1HP/s as an assertion..............................(This assumes Max. HP and gk.0 suit, which moves at 3.14m/s) Lol? Ok, so with 4 cmplx plates, gK.0 will have 656.25 armor HP, which would take 10 minutes to rep up ( stop attemping math if you suck at it) Still, it is a FREE BASIC MODULE ISN'T IT? Quote: stuff about amarr weaponry so, 9 shots with an overheated lead, or 15 shot without. Thats the ScR on an unbonused suit. IF you used the gun a lot on non-amarr-assault suits you would realize that this gets you killed, a lot. To say otherwise is to lie, just ask PIE. Laser rifle does damage based upon amount of rounds fired. When not on an assault suit, it fires a decent amount less, meaning it outputs a decent amount less damage. We will see what reduction he is talking about, but until we know the details, we have to go with WHAT WE KNOW NOW. Quote: But since we want to talk about having a bonus to useless weapons, let's take an objective look at the Commando Bonuses shall we? Amarr Commando Bonuses: Scrambler Rifle Assault Scrambler Rifle Laser Rifle Gallente Commando Bonuses: Assault Rifle Burst Assault Rifle Breach Assault Rifle Tactical Assault Rifle Plasma Cannon Shotgun Minmatar Commando Bonuses: Combat Rifle Assault Combat Rifle Swarm Launcher Specialist Swarm Launcher Assault Swarm Launcher Mass Driver Breach Mass Driver Assault Mass Driver Caldari Commando Bonuses Rail Rifle Assault Rail Rifle Sniper Rifle Tactical Sniper Rifle Charge Sniper Rifle Specialist Sniper Rifle To prevent myself from being misleading as you claim me to be, I took the liberty of highlighting weapons (and their variants) of items that are underpowered, and/or receiving an unnecessary nerf in 1.8 that will make the underpowered. Your complaining about your Commando not having worthwhile bonuses, while the Caldari and Gallente Commandos have a damage bonus to only one weapon worth running? Lol? I added weapons you forgot to include, they should stand out at you. Also, if you think everyone and thier mother will not switch to the caldari commando to snipe you are crazy, especially with the damage mod nerf. By my count, that means everyone has more content than the amarr.. .big suprise. Quote: As for the reload bonus, the Caldari and Minmatar don't need the reload bonus either. Arguably, their is no need for the reload bonus at all due to the exploit that allows you to shorten the reload animation. The only Commando who could possibly benifit from this is the Gallente, and you think this makes the Amarr Commando not worth using? Lol? Thats straight bullshit, caldari and minmatar will of course GREATLY benefit from the decreased reload time. This means that they will have a higher amount of sustained DPS. The reload bonus does not increase amarrian sustained DPS (heat remember) quote You should really be more descriptive when you talk about how the Amarr Logistics gives up two slots for it's sidearm. At most, you are giving up 72.6HP by lacking a 4th High Slot. If you believe that this hampers your ability to use Damage Modifiers, then you might just be be a scrub. While I hate to be lazy, I'm far too tired to calculate the maximum eHP ceiling of all the Logistics. So I won't provide a detailed fitting layout of them. It seems as if you completely disregarded my scenario, so I'll just put things in laymen's terms. The Amarr Logistics is the best simply because you get the ability to carry a second weapon while only having to give up 72.6HP and a 4th equipment slot. It's the best Assault suit as well simply because the only Assault suit that has 2 equipment slots is the Balac's Modified Assault ck.0, which is impossible to obtain unless you won the tourney back in beta. But the Amarr Logistics touts 3 equipment slots; meaning it's literally the Balac's Modified Assault ck.0 dropsuit; but with 1 less high slot and an additional Equipment slot. You start out with "at most you are giving up 10% of your HP" that is not a good start. So, apparently you can masterfully navigate the pitfalls of overheating weaponry (as stated before) but lack of sidearm=death to you. I call B.S. It is almost as slow as the minmatar commando. IF you throw on a bunch of plates, we are talking sentinel speed. Seriously, if you take the a/1 series, throw on three complex plates, you travel at 3.9 m/sec, oh and you have used over half of your fitting PG too (leaving you with 30 PG for 3equipment, 1 light, 1 sidearm, and 3 highslots . It is a HORRIBLE assault, only spreadsheet warriors would overlook that fact. Also, it has the second worst fitting behind the caldari logi. If you use the amarr logi as an assault you are bad and you should feel bad. Not to mention 2 slots > 1 slot always.[/quote] Translated too: I quote a lot to cause confusion to hide the fact that I make NO SENSE. HENCE: the wal Dead trigger master , an ya I do that ISH ON PURPOSE!
DEZKA DIABLO 0uter.Heaven 398	Posted - 2014.03.17 10:31:00 - [4] - Quote Had to delete a chunk cuz MAGBUS quotes so much that he exceeds the quotes and characters left to rebuttal anything, basically he talks until there's no room to get a word in, literally ! Dead trigger master , an ya I do that ISH ON PURPOSE!
DEZKA DIABLO 0uter.Heaven 408	Posted - 2014.03.18 00:12:00 - [5] - Quote Django Quik wrote: DJINN Marauder wrote: Amarr logi is the best assault suit? Did I read that right? Omg... Wtf lol. It is not the best... Far from it. Any good player will tell you that. Hint: Strafe speed is important. Edit: I'm too lazy to quote the post itself. Strafe speed is meaningless in a game with auto-aim. Says this ^ to the best shot gunner in the game thatll go 50/0 in a dragonfly scout with a MTL SHOTGUN lol. FACEPALM Dead trigger master , an ya I do that ISH ON PURPOSE!