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Liquid Big Boss
Quebec United
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Posted - 2014.03.16 13:30:00 -
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So I'm looking to build the best scout runner. I usually take it to start a game and put uplink and hack first.
With the new scout and change I want to know if my gallente will still be the faster.
So right now I put 3 proto kinetic and 1advanced (green bottle) does the minmatarr or amarres can run faster?
I'm the boss to superpass big boss itself
MAG vet Raven forever
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Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
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Posted - 2014.03.16 13:31:00 -
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Minmatar will have the fastest.
"Go ahead and dual tank. My Commando dual ganks." -Kasote Denzara
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Liquid Big Boss
Quebec United
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Posted - 2014.03.16 13:40:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote:Minmatar will have the fastest.
Even if he only got 3right slots? You put like only 2kinetic and 1green?
I'm the boss to superpass big boss itself
MAG vet Raven forever
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Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
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Posted - 2014.03.16 13:47:00 -
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Liquid Big Boss wrote:Even if he only got 3right slots? You put like only 2kinetic and 1green?
Not only does it have the highest base speed, but at the prototype level it will have three highs and three lows.
"Go ahead and dual tank. My Commando dual ganks." -Kasote Denzara
I'm waiting for my G-I suit. It's what I want.
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Bendtner92
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.03.16 14:02:00 -
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Gallente will be fastest.
Minmatar with 2 reds and 1 green = 10.38 m/sec.
Gallente with 3 reds and 1 green = 10.73 m/sec.
Sure you can use 3 reds on Minmatar to get 11.12 m/sec, but then you'll be lacking some stamina.
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COVERT SUBTERFUGE
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.03.16 14:07:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:Gallente will be fastest.
Minmatar with 2 reds and 1 green = 10.38 m/sec.
Gallente with 3 reds and 1 green = 10.73 m/sec.
Sure you can use 3 reds on Minmatar to get 11.12 m/sec, but then you'll be lacking some stamina.
Interesting. The Minmatar has double the stamina regen rate of Gallente though so they will be off again a lot sooner meaning from A to B they'll be quicker....or so I#d think, could be wrong.
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Liquid Big Boss
Quebec United
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Posted - 2014.03.16 17:30:00 -
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i did try 4 proto kinetic on my gallente was running 11.11m/sec, but was out of stamina before getting to the letter.
ex this maphttp://web.ccpgamescdn.com/newssystem/media/64656/1/SpineCrescent_skirmish.jpg
(start at the groud going in the town)
so i think will continue with gallente after all
I'm the boss to superpass big boss itself
MAG vet Raven forever
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Aisha Ctarl
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3969
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Posted - 2014.03.16 17:35:00 -
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AMARR!
Oh wait.....
I could list the ways how we Amarr are better than you, but your lesser mind wouldn't comprehend it.
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2014.03.16 17:39:00 -
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I can never understand why people run more then 2 kincats.
2 is so PG intensive and you just gimp your suit so much.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Bendtner92
Imperfects
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Posted - 2014.03.16 17:43:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:I can never understand why people run more then 2 kincats.
2 is so PG intensive and you just gimp your suit so much.
To get there first in PC, we're not really talking about pubs here.
Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament.
Go Go Power Rangers!
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Galvan Nized
Deep Space Republic
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Posted - 2014.03.16 17:45:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:Gallente will be fastest.
Minmatar with 2 reds and 1 green = 10.38 m/sec.
Gallente with 3 reds and 1 green = 10.73 m/sec.
Sure you can use 3 reds on Minmatar to get 11.12 m/sec, but then you'll be lacking some stamina.
While technically faster the Minmatar have more stamina/stam regen (it's not close either once you put on a cardiac regulator.) The Minnie will win in a foot race if Gal Stamina ever goes down.
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Bendtner92
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Posted - 2014.03.16 17:47:00 -
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Galvan Nized wrote:Bendtner92 wrote:Gallente will be fastest.
Minmatar with 2 reds and 1 green = 10.38 m/sec.
Gallente with 3 reds and 1 green = 10.73 m/sec.
Sure you can use 3 reds on Minmatar to get 11.12 m/sec, but then you'll be lacking some stamina. While technically faster the Minmatar have more stamina/stam regen (it's not close either once you put on a cardiac regulator.) The Minnie will win in a foot race if Gal Stamina ever goes down.
Correct, but the Gallente can run 450 meters without stopping and I don't even think there's longer than that to the complex on any map.
Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament.
Go Go Power Rangers!
R.I.P MAG.
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2014.03.16 17:49:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:I can never understand why people run more then 2 kincats.
2 is so PG intensive and you just gimp your suit so much. To get there first in PC, we're not really talking about pubs here.
Still, I ran 2 kins, a complex cardio and a complex hack mod. I wasn't always first in the city, but I would still make it was maybe a second difference.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Bendtner92
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Posted - 2014.03.16 17:55:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Bendtner92 wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:I can never understand why people run more then 2 kincats.
2 is so PG intensive and you just gimp your suit so much. To get there first in PC, we're not really talking about pubs here. Still, I ran 2 kins, a complex cardio and a complex hack mod. I wasn't always first in the city, but I would still make it was maybe a second difference.
Sure, over a 300 meter distance there's only a 2 second difference in running two or three reds, but those 2 seconds can mean everything in PC since it allows that team to spawn on the uplink 2 seconds earlier than the other team.
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Go Go Power Rangers!
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Liquid Big Boss
Quebec United
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Posted - 2014.03.17 04:30:00 -
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no body talks about the amarr...
with is bonus if you put 4 proto kinetic maybe it can run faster then gallente and don't run out of stamina? mmmh
I'm the boss to superpass big boss itself
MAG vet Raven forever
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.03.17 04:32:00 -
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for getting to objectives-amarr with 3x kin cats 1x cardio
for speed hacking objectives-minmitar with 2x kin cats and 1x cardio
Kills-Archduke Ferdinand
Balance!
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Scout Registry
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2014.03.17 04:43:00 -
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Liquid Big Boss wrote:no body talks about the amarr...
with is bonus if you put 4 proto kinetic maybe it can run faster then gallente and don't run out of stamina? mmmh
My thoughts exactly, though diminishing returns hit KinCats pretty hard after 2. I'd very much like to see a "race" to first letter among Amarr (w/4 KinCats), Gal (w/3 KinCats + 1 CardReg) and Min (w/3 KinCats). |
Magnus Amadeuss
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.03.17 05:25:00 -
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:for getting to objectives-amarr with 3x kin cats 1x cardio
for speed hacking objectives-minmitar with 2x kin cats and 1x cardio
Nope.
Minmatar w/ 2 kincat >>> amarr with 3 kincat for speed. You will beat the amarr to any distance any time anywhere, There is no possible situatuion where the amarr scout will outrun you.
2 kincat 1 reg minmatar 3 shield extender(10.37 m/sec, 496.65 stamina, 132 stamina recovery)
3 kincat 1 reg amarr 2 shield extender (10.33 m/sec, 685 stamina, 99 recovery)
The minmatar runs faster, recovers faster, can jump WAY more often, has more HP, can hack faster, walks/strafes/jumps better, and can destroy with nova knives. The amarr can loose in a foot race.
The math bears it out, there is no possible way the amarr scout beats this minmatar to any spot on the map... ever.
While there is no better place to be wealthy than the Gallente Federation, there is no hell worse for the poor either.
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Magnus Amadeuss
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
573
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Posted - 2014.03.17 05:41:00 -
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Magnus Amadeuss wrote:Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:for getting to objectives-amarr with 3x kin cats 1x cardio
for speed hacking objectives-minmitar with 2x kin cats and 1x cardio Nope. Minmatar w/ 2 kincat >>> amarr with 3 kincat for speed. You will beat the amarr to any distance any time anywhere, There is no possible situatuion where the amarr scout will outrun you. 2 kincat 1 reg minmatar 3 shield extender(10.37 m/sec, 496.65 stamina, 132 stamina recovery) 3 kincat 1 reg amarr 2 shield extender (10.33 m/sec, 685 stamina, 99 recovery) The minmatar runs faster, recovers faster, can jump WAY more often, has more HP, can hack faster, walks/strafes/jumps better, and can destroy with nova knives. The amarr can loose in a foot race. The math bears it out, there is no possible way the amarr scout beats this minmatar to any spot on the map... ever.
Actually let me correct that before I go to bed.
After the minmatar scout expends its initial stamina pool, it will be 1.5 meters ahead of the amarr scout. Over the 1.5seconds, the amarr suit will gain a small advantage over the minmatar scout, of approximately 7 meters, after which the minmatar can start sprinting again continuing to close the gap until they both run out of stamina, this is the last time that the amarr will ever have any bit of a lead.
For this tiny window (trailing between 515 meters and 575 meters), the minmatar suit gains 72 HP (or 25% more HP), 31% faster hacking, 25% more dmaageing nova knives, 32% faster stamina regen (way more important than stamina), 8% faster walking/strafing speed, jumping more often and higher.
Yeah, that seems balanced.
While there is no better place to be wealthy than the Gallente Federation, there is no hell worse for the poor either.
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Bendtner92
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.03.17 07:56:00 -
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Liquid Big Boss wrote:no body talks about the amarr...
with is bonus if you put 4 proto kinetic maybe it can run faster then gallente and don't run out of stamina? mmmh
Nope, this was established in another thread. Gallente will be the fastest to the complex.
Gallente: 3 reds and 1 green = 10.73 m/sec and 420 stamina (that's 450 meters of nonstop sprinting, don't think there's longer to the complex on any map).
Amarr: 4 reds and 0 green = 10.7 m/sec and 361 stamina (lacking stamina).
Amarr: 3 reds and 1 green = 10.34 m/sec and 722 stamina (can sprint pretty much nonstop, but has more stamina than needed to get to the complex).
Minmatar: 2 reds and 1 green = 10.38 m/sec and 473 stamina (slower than Gallente).
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
1345
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Posted - 2014.03.17 08:57:00 -
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for PC its not about arriving first, its about arriving 2nd but close enough to gank the scout who got there before you before he completes the hack. |
Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.03.17 09:03:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:Gallente will be fastest.
Minmatar with 2 reds and 1 green = 10.38 m/sec.
Gallente with 3 reds and 1 green = 10.73 m/sec.
Sure you can use 3 reds on Minmatar to get 11.12 m/sec, but then you'll be lacking some stamina.
Minmatar will be the fastest if you want him to, but gallente will be able to come close if you dedicate the gals low slots to do so |
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