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        |  TheD1CK
 Dead Man's Game
 
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      | Posted - 2014.03.16 11:05:00 -
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 The Amarr Scout is still getting constant hardship from non-scout players
 I'm hoping it works out, but I have no way to be sure until I spec into it
 I've seen some very good points made on both sides, compared to Gallente scout it seems lame
 But there is the fault, it should be compared to Matari Scout not the Gallente
 
 Gallente/Caldari Scouts fill a Hide/Seek role
 Matari/Amarr Scouts fill a combat role CQC/Range
 
 Matari will be the better suit in CQC, but how much does that count in battle
 Unless you are stalking the inner city areas it is not much help ...
 Whereas the Amarr Scout will be able to traverse the Battlefield pretty well
 While not being as good in CQC it will have the range advantage, higher HP
 After 1.8 we will see how all the Scouts function, so save criticism til then
 They may or may not be balanced, we have no way to know until we fight in them
 So let actual scouts test out the stamina bonus, trust me if it fails I'll be complaining too
 
 The Amarr Scout bonus suits speed tankers quite well ... let us try it before QQ
 If you want a bonus to Clipsize/DMG, see the Assault/Commando suits ....
 
 
 
 
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        |  Faquira Bleuetta
 Fatal Absolution
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 293
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.16 11:08:00 -
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 The Amarr should be the ******* scout hunter not Caldari , +5% bonus to dropsuit scan radius per level and +19% bonus to Complex Precision Enhancer per level( yes 19% bonus bcuz Amarr lacks high slot) ,,base dropsuit stat new Movement Speed 5.39(current 5.25) , new sprint 7.55(current 7.35),, new stamina 225 (current 275),,, however in exchange Caldari should have bonus to cloaking,,,,,,, +7 % reduction to cloak field cooldown per level,,,+8 % bonus to Cloaked ScProfile Reduction.
 
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        |  Bendtner92
 Imperfects
 Negative-Feedback
 
 1866
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.16 11:08:00 -
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 Feel free to post an Amarr Scout fit in Aero's thread that he can't replicate/improve with Gallente Scout then.
 
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        |  PARKOUR PRACTIONER
 Reapers' Assailant
 
 924
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.16 11:08:00 -
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 Someone who speaks, well types, truth. Let us scouts test it out before people that don't know what the hell there talking about start QQing.
 
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        |  TheD1CK
 Dead Man's Game
 
 982
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.16 11:15:00 -
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 Bendtner92 wrote:Feel free to post an Amarr Scout fit in Aero's thread that he can't replicate/improve with Gallente Scout then. 
 Can you read? It's not a difficult post ......
 It should be compared to the Matari, not the Gallente
 
 The Gallente/Caldari are clearly going for the EWAR role
 Where the Matari/Amarr are designed for combat and yes I saw his thread
 I was impressed that CCP lined up the Armour based Scouts nicely ....
 
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        |  Bendtner92
 Imperfects
 Negative-Feedback
 
 1866
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.16 11:22:00 -
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 TheD1CK wrote:Bendtner92 wrote:Feel free to post an Amarr Scout fit in Aero's thread that he can't replicate/improve with Gallente Scout then. Can you read? It's not a difficult post ...... It should be compared to the Matari, not the Gallente The Gallente/Caldari are clearly going for the EWAR role Where the Matari/Amarr are designed for combat and yes I saw his thread I was impressed that CCP lined up the Armour based Scouts nicely .... But if the Gallente is better no matter what, why does the Amarr even exist then?
 
 You can compare it to Minmatar all you want, but that doesn't change that Gallente will always be better.
 
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        |  BL4CKST4R
 WarRavens
 League of Infamy
 
 2080
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.16 11:29:00 -
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 Faquira Bleuetta wrote:The Amarr should be the ******* scout hunter not Caldari , +5% bonus to dropsuit scan radius per level and +19% bonus to Complex Precision Enhancer per level( yes 19% bonus bcuz Amarr lacks high slot) ,,base dropsuit stat new Movement Speed 5.39(current 5.25) , new sprint 7.55(current 7.35),, new stamina 225 (current 275),,, however in exchange Caldari should have bonus to cloaking,,,,,,, +7 % reduction to cloak field cooldown per level,,,+8 % bonus to Cloaked ScProfile Reduction. 
 Your bonuses are just a little to high, besides that the scout role doesn't fit the Amarr play style very well. A good bonus for the Amarr scout would be to kinetic catalyzes since some amarr ships are very good with overdrive injectors.
 
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        |  TheD1CK
 Dead Man's Game
 
 982
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.16 11:30:00 -
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 So your saying in other classes there is no clear favorites??
 If we make every suit do the same thing, what is the point in specializing
 
 As I have said, the Amarr Scout may or may not work we will see
 But players running Heavy suits/Slayer suits need to let Scouts test it out
 Not every role in battle is about EZ mode killing, god forbid CCP actually provide
 A variety of roles with a degree of balance, but in Dust there will always be a counter
 So for that reason certain things will never be balanced when compared
 
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        |  bamboo x
 Eternal Beings
 Proficiency V.
 
 249
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.16 11:38:00 -
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 Are you saying the faster movement speed will make Minmatar better at CQC? Because knives won't make much of a difference.
 
 Arguably Amarr could be more focused on ferroscale plates than Min, if they want to make a suit that's combat oriented rather than putting kin cats on it. Whereas Min will need those kin cats even in a combat situation.
 
 This is coming from someone who isn't a scout.
 
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        |  TheD1CK
 Dead Man's Game
 
 983
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.16 14:58:00 -
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 bamboo x wrote:Are you saying the faster movement speed will make Minmatar better at CQC? Because knives won't make much of a difference.
 Arguably Amarr could be more focused on ferroscale plates than Min, if they want to make a suit that's combat oriented rather than putting kin cats on it. Whereas Min will need those kin cats even in a combat situation.
 
 This is coming from someone who isn't a scout.
 
 The Faster movement, along with the knives make the Matari better in CQC
 That is provided you get within melee distance, which is not always easy
 
 Once 1.8 hits, we'll see how close the contest is
 
 
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        |  Beck Weathers
 Ghosts of Dawn
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 813
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.16 15:10:00 -
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 Said it before will say it again, the amarr scout is suposed to suck, scouts just is not amarrs battle style, but they filled the roll withwhat they could throw together to try and counter other scouts, just like how minmatar sentinal is suposed to suck, its not their fighting style.
 
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        |  TheD1CK
 Dead Man's Game
 
 983
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.16 15:13:00 -
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 Beck Weathers wrote:Said it before will say it again, the amarr scout is suposed to suck, scouts just is not amarrs battle style, but they filled the roll withwhat they could throw together to try and counter other scouts, just like how minmatar sentinal is suposed to suck, its not their fighting style. 
 With a decent HP and high stamina, this suit will be tough....
 Regardless of fighting style, it has 6 module slots and the highest stamina
 
 'D1CK by name' 'D1CK by nature' | 
      
      
        |  Scheneighnay McBob
 Endless Hatred
 Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
 
 4388
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.16 15:33:00 -
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 There's more to scouting than raw speed. People need to realize that.
 
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        |  JARREL THOMAS
 Dead Man's Game
 
 189
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.16 15:34:00 -
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 Faquira Bleuetta wrote:The Amarr should be the ******* scout hunter not Caldari , +5% bonus to dropsuit scan radius per level and +19% bonus to Complex Precision Enhancer per level( yes 19% bonus bcuz Amarr lacks high slot) ,,base dropsuit stat new Movement Speed 5.39(current 5.25) , new sprint 7.55(current 7.35),, new stamina 225 (current 275),,, however in exchange Caldari should have bonus to cloaking,,,,,,, +7 % reduction to cloak field cooldown per level,,,+8 % bonus to Cloaked ScProfile Reduction. DON'T TRY TO CHANGE MY SCOUT KEEP YOUR STAMINA AND ALSO WHY CAN'T WE BE SCOUT HUNTER I CALL RACISM !!!! But seriously no
 
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        |  Beck Weathers
 Ghosts of Dawn
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 813
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.16 15:35:00 -
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 TheD1CK wrote:Beck Weathers wrote:Said it before will say it again, the amarr scout is suposed to suck, scouts just is not amarrs battle style, but they filled the roll withwhat they could throw together to try and counter other scouts, just like how minmatar sentinal is suposed to suck, its not their fighting style. With a decent HP and high stamina, this suit will be tough.... Regardless of fighting style, it has 6 module slots and the highest stamina 
 Never said it would be useless lol, just that people should acept that it wont outclass other scouts on stats alone
 
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        |  JARREL THOMAS
 Dead Man's Game
 
 189
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.16 15:41:00 -
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 PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:Someone who speaks, well types, truth. Let us scouts test it out before people that don't know what the hell there talking about start QQing. Let the scouts at least play with our toys before everyone starts to QQ and we get nerfed
 
 Caldari Loyalist I speak for the rabbits | 
      
      
        |  DEZKA DIABLO
 0uter.Heaven
 
 389
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.16 15:41:00 -
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 What do ya think
 
 https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=148416&find=unread
 
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        |  Spectral Clone
 Dust2Dust.
 Top Men.
 
 1703
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.16 15:54:00 -
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 *looks at thread title and drops the bomb*
 
 ...scouts are not assaults, they are better at assaulting compared to assaults in 1.8. Logis are also better at assaulting.
 
 Drop it like its hat. | 
      
      
        |  Sergamon Draco
 Rautaleijona
 Top Men.
 
 395
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.16 16:05:00 -
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 No they aren`t assaultters,but still many play them like assaultters.And also scout can beat assaultter in any day,bcause they move like superman on meth.And this is happenning before 1.8,and 1.8 ccp chooses to "balance" classes great fking job ccp
 
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