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ForgeGun Blap Blap
PEN 15 CLUB
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Posted - 2014.03.16 04:45:00 -
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they're both on PS3 and both make you really mad.
except one is by design. |
NotWhoYou ThinkEyeAm
Expert Intervention Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.03.16 04:49:00 -
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Maybe CCP intended Dust to make people mad.
45 player match
I'm obviously not who you think I am
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calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.16 05:02:00 -
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so far nothing in dark souls 2 has given me much dificulty, nothing like demon souls on my first run or even dark souls end game.
they made it a lot easier with their plethora of healing items, the runs are also alot shorter, I've seen several levels where if you make a b-line straight for the boss theirs only 1-2 enemies in your way. |
thesupertman
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2014.03.16 05:02:00 -
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They both have numbers in the title :)
This game need more vehicles!
dangCCPyou'reslowpickupthepace
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Jack Kittinger
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.16 05:14:00 -
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Over the 20+ hours of playing it
DUST did come to mind as a similar experience
For once the motto's seem to be ruthless/unforgiving:
Prepare to die / HTFU
Dark Souls expects you to die AND learn from that. It doesn't hold your hand and when it does it leads you into a dark alley to be ambushed by wretches and looks at you with a "what-are-you-gonna-do-now??"-face.
New Eden is... well pretty much real life; you may get stomped/scammed by users and/or CCP, you can quit or you can stay and fight to stomp the noobs of tomorrow.
DS2 After Dying a lot of times, you learn that timing is of the essence.
NE After losing your protogear to Fatal Error, Friendly Fire, LOL TANK MYWIN, you learn that the game needs to be tweaked to become the best it can be.
DS2 By timing your strikes and keeping a distance while always staying aware of the environment you become better and harder to kill.
NE Knowing what dropsuit to use for what situation gives you an advantage on the battlefield, even scouts who know when and how to strike become hard as hell to kill, although by being auto-spawned in front of a blaster tank or being put in a match with blueberries out of Academy you either fight against impossible odds and occasionally come out on top or rage quit to find a match where you do the stomping.
Talk about coming out on top.
DS2 Every single victory no matter how small will dispel the frustration and make you feel accomplished because you EARN every single one soul you acquire.
NE If you make it out alive in an ambush or so you know that your gun game was good, your awareness kept you on the low but then along comes a RR heavy, Blaster Tank, *insert FoTM here* and even if you don't feel frustrated cause that was all BPO's you feel disappointed cause you know that the game needs tweaking. You know it, the ppl qqing know it, the devs... let me get back to you on that one.... ?
TL;DR both make you mad, alright! but one rewards timing, awareness, learning from your mistakes, keeping calm in the face of utter damnation; the other is broken and fun but frustrating because it could be so much better.
Proud winner of the 'Templar BPO Raffle' by Castor Crave!!
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Komodo Jones
Chaotik Serenity
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Posted - 2014.03.16 05:18:00 -
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Nah, dark souls is challenging, this game is just unforgiving. Dust for new players is like if dark souls made you fight gwyn in the first 10 minutes lol
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
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Posted - 2014.03.16 06:03:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:so far nothing in dark souls 2 has given me much dificulty, nothing like demon souls on my first run or even dark souls end game.
they made it a lot easier with their plethora of healing items, the runs are also alot shorter, I've seen several levels where if you make a b-line straight for the boss theirs only 1-2 enemies in your way. Exept not really Ever get to anana something? I dont remember the exact name but mages spam op stuff at you and theres nothing you can do about it, the game is designed around having a player with you...
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2014.03.16 06:11:00 -
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ForgeGun Blap Blap wrote:they're both on PS3 and both make you really mad.
except one is by design.
Also both and very deep and immersive games.
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The Eristic
Sad Panda Solutions
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Posted - 2014.03.16 06:25:00 -
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Komodo Jones wrote:Nah, dark souls is challenging, this game is just unforgiving. Dust for new players is like if dark souls made you fight Four Kings in the first 10 minutes lol
Revised for appropriateness. Gwyn is pretty simple if you're comfortable with parrying. 4Kids, otoh, is pretty much a pure DPS race and is completely brutal with non-twinked low SL builds, which sounds more like Dust to me. |
jerrmy12 kahoalii
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Posted - 2014.03.16 06:30:00 -
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The Eristic wrote:Komodo Jones wrote:Nah, dark souls is challenging, this game is just unforgiving. Dust for new players is like if dark souls made you fight Four Kings in the first 10 minutes lol Revised for appropriateness. Gwyn is pretty simple if you're comfortable with parrying. 4Kids, otoh, is pretty much a pure DPS race and is completely brutal with non-twinked low SL builds, which sounds more like Dust to me. Idky anyone would want a low sl build
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The Eristic
Sad Panda Solutions
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Posted - 2014.03.16 06:35:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Idky anyone would want a low sl build
Trolling. Antitrolling. Noob assistance. Challenge mode. Different feel in PVP. Lots of reasons. Mainly trolling. |
Seamie Schmoove
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
127
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Posted - 2014.03.16 07:09:00 -
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At least the deaths in DS teach you something. Not sure what the point is here anymore at times..
Playing the game badly since Replication
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
8262
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Posted - 2014.03.16 08:07:00 -
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The Eristic wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Idky anyone would want a low sl build
Trolling. Antitrolling. Noob assistance. Challenge mode. Different feel in PVP. Lots of reasons. Mainly trolling.
Low level PvP was by far more rewarding and generally required a greater understanding of build crafting and you weapons mechanics and capabilities. SL 120 was just a FoTM fest of pretty crappy players who could fit everything on their characters and made no sacrifices.
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
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Posted - 2014.03.16 08:12:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:The Eristic wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Idky anyone would want a low sl build
Trolling. Antitrolling. Noob assistance. Challenge mode. Different feel in PVP. Lots of reasons. Mainly trolling. Low level PvP was by far more rewarding and generally required a greater understanding of build crafting and you weapons mechanics and capabilities. SL 120 was just a FoTM fest of pretty crappy players who could fit everything on their characters and made no sacrifices. I prefer it, as everyone has decent hp, decent defenses, decent shuelds and weapons, its funner. But I can do low level pvp
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Wurm FOOD
The Southern Legion League of Infamy
92
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Posted - 2014.03.16 08:17:00 -
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Praise the Sun!
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All hail the Commando ak.0
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
517
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Posted - 2014.03.16 08:21:00 -
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Wurm FOOD wrote:Praise the Sun! Invader banished Pts Pts Pts Pts Pts Pts Pts Pts Pts Wave
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Komodo Jones
Chaotik Serenity
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Posted - 2014.03.16 14:45:00 -
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The Eristic wrote:Komodo Jones wrote:Nah, dark souls is challenging, this game is just unforgiving. Dust for new players is like if dark souls made you fight Four Kings in the first 10 minutes lol Revised for appropriateness. Gwyn is pretty simple if you're comfortable with parrying. 4Kids, otoh, is pretty much a pure DPS race and is completely brutal with non-twinked low SL builds, which sounds more like Dust to me. Lol fair enough, gwyn you can get used to, but that's just poor game design, in most cases fighting the last boss isn't something you wanna do before you have leveled up a bit :)
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Komodo Jones
Chaotik Serenity
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Posted - 2014.03.16 14:47:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:The Eristic wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Idky anyone would want a low sl build
Trolling. Antitrolling. Noob assistance. Challenge mode. Different feel in PVP. Lots of reasons. Mainly trolling. Low level PvP was by far more rewarding and generally required a greater understanding of build crafting and you weapons mechanics and capabilities. SL 120 was just a FoTM fest of pretty crappy players who could fit everything on their characters and made no sacrifices. Again poor game design, when there's no point in going over level 50 or 100 and you have a maximum of 712 then something is wrong.
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calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.16 16:40:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:calisk galern wrote:so far nothing in dark souls 2 has given me much dificulty, nothing like demon souls on my first run or even dark souls end game.
they made it a lot easier with their plethora of healing items, the runs are also alot shorter, I've seen several levels where if you make a b-line straight for the boss theirs only 1-2 enemies in your way. Exept not really Ever get to anana something? I dont remember the exact name but mages spam op stuff at you and theres nothing you can do about it, the game is designed around having a player with you...
i've beaten it. |
KalOfTheRathi
Nec Tributis
1014
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Posted - 2014.03.16 16:45:00 -
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Okay, one is a good game but ... what is the punch line again?
I am waiting for DS2 on PC. I already bought my last game console game, Demon's Souls.
And so it goes.
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The Eristic
Sad Panda Solutions
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Posted - 2014.03.16 19:49:00 -
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Komodo Jones wrote: Again poor game design, when there's no point in going over level 50 or 100 and you have a maximum of 712 then something is wrong.
You've never tried Level 387ing in the Forest. |
Hynox Xitio
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.16 19:57:00 -
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*ahem*
Flappy Bird
Unleash the Fogwoggler
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
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Posted - 2014.03.16 20:02:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:calisk galern wrote:so far nothing in dark souls 2 has given me much dificulty, nothing like demon souls on my first run or even dark souls end game.
they made it a lot easier with their plethora of healing items, the runs are also alot shorter, I've seen several levels where if you make a b-line straight for the boss theirs only 1-2 enemies in your way. Exept not really Ever get to anana something? I dont remember the exact name but mages spam op stuff at you and theres nothing you can do about it, the game is designed around having a player with you... i've beaten it. Alone without bows or magic
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Komodo Jones
Chaotik Serenity
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Posted - 2014.03.17 14:05:00 -
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The Eristic wrote:Komodo Jones wrote: Again poor game design, when there's no point in going over level 50 or 100 and you have a maximum of 712 then something is wrong.
You've never tried Level 387ing in the Forest. true, but I feel like that would just be like if the fit of the month never changed, at some point everyone kinda melds into the same character, no variety. Also why level if you can backstab? lol
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