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DEZKA DIABLO
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2014.03.16 00:15:00 -
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One thing I've noticed when shotgunning is the cardari variants seem to have the strongest shields in the game.
I can two maybe three shot a amar heavy but even a adv cal assault seems to take more effort, maybe there speed screws with my targeting but they seem stronger than all other shields on any other suits.
I can obliterate a min assault with a shotgun, amar and even gallente aside from gallente logistics due to that tank.
But my min scouts shields are paper, do you think this will be the case with the cal scout or will it have the strength of the cal assault or do you find any difference in the strength of caldari shields compared to other suits?
IMO they feel much stronger
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Rizlax Yazzax
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
103
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Posted - 2014.03.16 01:10:00 -
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It's probably because most if not all of their highs are shield stacked. |
Asha Starwind
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.03.16 01:18:00 -
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Smaller hitbox -> more frequently missed shots -> less perceived inflicted damage.
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Arx Ardashir
Imperium Aeternum
675
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Posted - 2014.03.16 01:20:00 -
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What about all those shots that create the blue shield effect but do no damage? 
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Asha Starwind
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.03.16 01:23:00 -
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I'm not sure because Dust is well known for it perfectly awesome hit detection.
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.03.16 02:43:00 -
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caldari female tiny hitbox+super strafe+shotgun=blue shield glitch
Shoot them once then switch to your SMG. Best place to target is not center mass because center mass on a female caldari is about the size of a toothpick. Aim for the head or waist
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Arx Ardashir
Imperium Aeternum
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Posted - 2014.03.16 02:57:00 -
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Asha Starwind wrote:I'm not sure because Dust is well known for it perfectly awesome hit detection.
But it *is* detecting the hit, hence the shield flare. It's just deciding that you'll do no damage, because it's vindictive and spiteful because we have souls.
Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:caldari female tiny hitbox+super strafe+shotgun=blue shield glitch
Shoot them once then switch to your SMG. Best place to target is not center mass because center mass on a female caldari is about the size of a toothpick. Aim for the head or waist
I thought it was said that the hitboxes are the same size for male and female models, and that it's purely a visual difference.
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Asha Starwind
DUST University
Ivy League
491
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Posted - 2014.03.16 04:48:00 -
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There was this one time, I spawned on a CRU the words, walked forward a few meters, and "Enemy is hacking Clone Reanimation Unit" flashes across my screen. Turned around and sure enough there sitting on top of the CRU, was a sneaky Gal scout hacking the CRU. I emptied the entire clip of my Rail rifle into his head, shield flashes all over the place, 0 damage inflicted. Then while I was reloading he calmly killed me w/ 2 bursts from his CBR.
TL;DR: epitome of bulls**t, and shield flashes aren't an indicator
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Henrietta Unknown
Sooper Speshul Ponee Fors
38
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Posted - 2014.03.16 04:58:00 -
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:caldari female tiny hitbox+...(You're mean.)
Anyways, I run both male/female caldari alts, and get killed at the same rate under the same circumstances.
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Summ Dude
Direct Action Resources
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Posted - 2014.03.16 05:23:00 -
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You do realize that the SG does 10% more damage to shields and 10% less damage to armor, right? Since it's a plasma weapon.
Anyway, here's all the 1.8 Scout stats. See for yourself what their shields are like.
But yes, the Caldari suits generally have the highest base shields, as well as the most high slots so they can fit more shield extenders.
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Asha Starwind
DUST University
Ivy League
492
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Posted - 2014.03.16 06:08:00 -
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Summ Dude wrote:You do realize that the SG does 10% more damage to shields and 10% less damage to armor, right? Since it's a plasma weapon. Anyway, here's all the 1.8 Scout stats. See for yourself what their shields are like. But yes, the Caldari suits generally have the highest base shields, as well as the most high slots so they can fit more shield extenders.
Irrelevant to the issue that he is claiming; as to why heavy shields appear easier to strip with weapons fire than shield tanked Caldari meds.
Fyi:
Ammar heavy shields: 480*1.25 = 600hp
Cal med/assault: 210*1.25 + 66*4 = 526hp
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Lanius Pulvis
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2014.03.16 06:23:00 -
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:caldari female tiny hitbox+super strafe+shotgun=blue shield glitch
Shoot them once then switch to your SMG. Best place to target is not center mass because center mass on a female caldari is about the size of a toothpick. Aim for the head or waist
Actually a few months back one of the Devs stated unequivocally that hit-box is the same, male or female.
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
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Posted - 2014.03.16 06:47:00 -
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Asha Starwind wrote:Summ Dude wrote:You do realize that the SG does 10% more damage to shields and 10% less damage to armor, right? Since it's a plasma weapon. Anyway, here's all the 1.8 Scout stats. See for yourself what their shields are like. But yes, the Caldari suits generally have the highest base shields, as well as the most high slots so they can fit more shield extenders. Irrelevant to the issue that he is claiming; as to why heavy shields appear easier to strip with weapons fire than shield tanked Caldari meds. Fyi: Ammar heavy shields: 480*1.25 = 600hp Cal med/assault: 210*1.25 + 66*4 = 526hp
Heavies move slower and are larger, making for less hitbox issues and more shots hitting in a Shotgun spread or a wider (long range) dispersion pattern from any other weapon.
When they don't have significantly more shields, that means the shields will be stripped faster. |
Asha Starwind
DUST University
Ivy League
498
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Posted - 2014.03.16 07:30:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Asha Starwind wrote:Summ Dude wrote:You do realize that the SG does 10% more damage to shields and 10% less damage to armor, right? Since it's a plasma weapon. Anyway, here's all the 1.8 Scout stats. See for yourself what their shields are like. But yes, the Caldari suits generally have the highest base shields, as well as the most high slots so they can fit more shield extenders. Irrelevant to the issue that he is claiming; as to why heavy shields appear easier to strip with weapons fire than shield tanked Caldari meds. Fyi: Ammar heavy shields: 480*1.25 = 600hp Cal med/assault: 210*1.25 + 66*4 = 526hp Heavies move slower and are larger, making for less hitbox issues and more shots hitting in a Shotgun spread or a wider (long range) dispersion pattern from any other weapon. When they don't have significantly more shields, that means the shields will be stripped faster.
I already alluded to that, my first post in this thread. I was just pointing out that having the high base shields for a med frame and more highs doesn't come into play in this situation, at least not in the fashion he's saying it.
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