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Mejt0
Made in Poland... E-R-A
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Posted - 2014.03.15 23:09:00 -
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Its good you use proto. This is nice isk farm with lower grade fits.
More proto = more isk. Dont know why some complain about it :) |
NotWhoYou ThinkEyeAm
Expert Intervention Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.03.15 23:12:00 -
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Because they apparently can't kill a Proto suit with 54 bullets with 32 damage and a huge rate of fire.
45 player match
I'm obviously not who you think I am
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bamboo x
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
238
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Posted - 2014.03.15 23:14:00 -
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To be honest.
I would still wreck their day up in my Dragonfly Toxin. But the FOTM bullshit needs to go.
6 militia tanks will **** your team up unless you're lucky enough to get two or three dedicated forge gunners. And rail rifles are ******* ridiculous right now.
CCP needs to make a balanced game where everything you pick is fair, has a useful role, but isn't any more powerful than other people with your same skill and gear level.
hackable ladders ftw
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Denchlad 7
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
105
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Posted - 2014.03.15 23:15:00 -
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Took a starter fit out against protobears earlier. 18-10 And 350k <3 Not one to complain lol
If you can't accept change, you will fail in this world.
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Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn
3486
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Posted - 2014.03.15 23:19:00 -
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That doesn't make any sense though. So you want a game where all suits are equal to each other? So a scout should be able to go heads up against a heavy? Cause that what you mean by everything you pick should be fair so that one isn't more powerful than the other.
The balanced everything dream is a lie. Item A will always be stronger than Item B, but Item B can be versatile if the merc knows how to use its strengths and diminish its weakness to be able to combat Item A.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Are you OUKH?
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Louis Domi
Pradox One Proficiency V.
26
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Posted - 2014.03.15 23:47:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:That doesn't make any sense though. So you want a game where all suits are equal to each other? So a scout should be able to go heads up against a heavy? Cause that what you mean by everything you pick should be fair so that one isn't more powerful than the other.
The balanced everything dream is a lie. Item A will always be stronger than Item B, but Item B can be versatile if the merc knows how to use its strengths and diminish its weakness to be able to combat Item A. shotgun or Re scout can take out heavies ._. |
Michael Arck
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Posted - 2014.03.15 23:51:00 -
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Louis Domi wrote:Michael Arck wrote:That doesn't make any sense though. So you want a game where all suits are equal to each other? So a scout should be able to go heads up against a heavy? Cause that what you mean by everything you pick should be fair so that one isn't more powerful than the other.
The balanced everything dream is a lie. Item A will always be stronger than Item B, but Item B can be versatile if the merc knows how to use its strengths and diminish its weakness to be able to combat Item A. shotgun or Re scout can take out heavies ._.
So a scout should be able to go heads up against a heavy? You know, as in, head on.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Are you OUKH?
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Cinnamon267
91
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Posted - 2014.03.16 00:00:00 -
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NotWhoYou ThinkEyeAm wrote:Because they apparently can't kill a Proto suit with 54 bullets with 32 damage and a huge rate of fire.
Because there are logibro's with proto Rail Rifles with 400 shields and 830 armour. Have fun beating that in standard fits unless you get him from behind and don't miss a single shot. Because, you know, the proto Rail Rifle is so awesomely balanced, right now.
Balanced game guys.
bamboo x wrote: And rail rifles are ******* ridiculous right now.
Understatement of the century. |
General12912
Gallente Marine Corps
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Posted - 2014.03.16 01:00:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Louis Domi wrote:Michael Arck wrote:That doesn't make any sense though. So you want a game where all suits are equal to each other? So a scout should be able to go heads up against a heavy? Cause that what you mean by everything you pick should be fair so that one isn't more powerful than the other.
The balanced everything dream is a lie. Item A will always be stronger than Item B, but Item B can be versatile if the merc knows how to use its strengths and diminish its weakness to be able to combat Item A. shotgun or Re scout can take out heavies ._. So a scout should be able to go heads up against a heavy? You know, as in, head on.
that all depends on the skill level of the player and the situation. its pretty complicated. but i always tip my hat to a skillful scout.
anyways, this whining about prototype suits has to go. lose the suit once, and you are making little-to-no profit off battle. they are definetly taking a higher risk, and the risk/reward rule says that if the risk of the strategy is higher, but executed successfully (without casualty), then the reward should be higher too. dont overthink it.
for most people, prototype suits are used if they prefer a better performance over a profit.
Assault Gk.0
Gallente Federation Patriot
General of the Gallente Marine Corps. Look us up if you want to join.
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Emperor1349
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
27
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Posted - 2014.03.16 01:35:00 -
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I run what I'm fighting against, I'm not going to let my team get proto stomped without fighting back. I never start in pro gear but more and more often I have to finish in it.
R.I.P Mag - SVER
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Michael Arck
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Posted - 2014.03.16 01:46:00 -
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Cinnamon267 wrote:NotWhoYou ThinkEyeAm wrote:Because they apparently can't kill a Proto suit with 54 bullets with 32 damage and a huge rate of fire. Because there are logibro's with proto Rail Rifles with 400 shields and 830 armour. Have fun beating that in standard fits unless you get him from behind and don't miss a single shot. Because, you know, the proto Rail Rifle is so awesomely balanced, right now. Balanced game guys. bamboo x wrote: And rail rifles are ******* ridiculous right now. Understatement of the century.
Your knowledge is limited. Combat Rifles are more of a problem than RRs.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Are you OUKH?
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Yan Darn
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
349
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Posted - 2014.03.16 01:48:00 -
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I tried running ADV for a while and found I was only breaking even and not much more to show for it - I've got ISK to run Proto, but gone back to my Valor fits.
I'm still a protobear hunter at heart - I forget there are actually no goals in this game and mine was to get the highest ISK loss/destroyed possible. I hate the thought of newberries see a proto suit killed em and love the thought of a proto slayer logi seeing they were murdered by a BPO scout.
It's a shame protostompers often have unlimited ISK. Ruins the fun a bit.
The Ghost of Bravo
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.03.16 01:52:00 -
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i killed a team player cal logi with a boundless 9x in one game lol. Got 400k isk
Kills-Archduke Ferdinand
Balance!
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
1822
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Posted - 2014.03.16 02:01:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Cinnamon267 wrote:NotWhoYou ThinkEyeAm wrote:Because they apparently can't kill a Proto suit with 54 bullets with 32 damage and a huge rate of fire. Because there are logibro's with proto Rail Rifles with 400 shields and 830 armour. Have fun beating that in standard fits unless you get him from behind and don't miss a single shot. Because, you know, the proto Rail Rifle is so awesomely balanced, right now. Balanced game guys. bamboo x wrote: And rail rifles are ******* ridiculous right now. Understatement of the century. Your knowledge is limited. Combat Rail Rifles are more of a problem than RCRs.
Amended for truthiness.
Arzadu Akbar Motherfuckers!!!!
Closed Beta Bittervet Bomber
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IVIaster LUKE
Shadow Company HQ Lokun Listamenn
395
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Posted - 2014.03.16 05:58:00 -
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Emperor1349 wrote:I run what I'm fighting against, I'm not going to let my team get proto stomped without fighting back. I never start in pro gear but more and more often I have to finish in it.
+1
"Fight fire, with Fire".
You sir, are a Gentlemen and a Scholar. o7.
Cobra Kai, Johnny!!!
"Sweep the leg".
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Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2014.03.16 06:04:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Cinnamon267 wrote:NotWhoYou ThinkEyeAm wrote:Because they apparently can't kill a Proto suit with 54 bullets with 32 damage and a huge rate of fire. Because there are logibro's with proto Rail Rifles with 400 shields and 830 armour. Have fun beating that in standard fits unless you get him from behind and don't miss a single shot. Because, you know, the proto Rail Rifle is so awesomely balanced, right now. Balanced game guys. bamboo x wrote: And rail rifles are ******* ridiculous right now. Understatement of the century. Your knowledge is limited. Combat Rail Rifles are more of a problem than RCRs. Amended for truthiness.
If only you knew. RR seem to be OP because in a pub match anything can be OP given that its popularity is up where RR is. Popularity doesn't designate what's OP. Yet CRs will melt users pretty fast. I know because I dual tank. I know because I went up against competitive players/PC'ers who use nothing but the CR.
But people don't know that because really how often do you see a CR in pubs? Exactly....
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Are you OUKH?
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Sana Rayya
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men.
1052
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Posted - 2014.03.16 06:04:00 -
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Yan Darn wrote:I tried running ADV for a while and found I was only breaking even and not much more to show for it - I've got ISK to run Proto, but gone back to my Valor fits.
I'm still a protobear hunter at heart - I forget there are actually no goals in this game and mine was to get the highest ISK loss/destroyed possible. I hate the thought of newberries see a proto suit killed em and love the thought of a proto slayer logi seeing they were murdered by a BPO scout.
It's a shame protostompers often have unlimited ISK. Ruins the fun a bit.
Pretty much this. Whenever I'm in a game against a full squad of redlining protobears, I run my "proto popper" fit - Dren SG scout with REs/fluxes and basic/militia modules. There is nothing more satisfying than sneaking REs into their spamohive beds and seeing 5-6 pieces of equipment, and the 5-6 mercs running around in them, going BOOM! |
RA Drahcir
0uter.Heaven
317
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Posted - 2014.03.16 09:09:00 -
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People worry about ISK? I run proto so I can use 4 equipment slots. Losing five or more suits a match doesn't matter, ISK isn't worth anything unless you spend it. Can you even go broke in this game? |
Dauth Jenkins
Ultramarine Corp
230
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Posted - 2014.03.16 09:51:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:To be honest.
I would still wreck their day up in my Dragonfly Toxin. But the FOTM bullshit needs to go.
6 militia tanks will **** your team up unless you're lucky enough to get two or three dedicated forge gunners. And rail rifles are ******* ridiculous right now.
CCP needs to make a balanced game where everything you pick is fair, has a useful role, but isn't any more powerful than other people with your same skill and gear level.
Hey, I still tear scouts up with my visiam, but against a gallogi I get shredded. The +20 -20 works great
Sees prototompers...
Sees blueberries start to snipe...
Pulls out commando suit with laser rifle and swarm launcher...
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