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bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 224	Posted - 2014.03.15 09:19:00 - [1] - Quote At what cost will you be using your cloaks? The Minmatar Logi has the highest CPU/PG in this game and the proto cloak uses up most if it. I just checked it myself and I'd only be able to put on a proto sniper rifle and one damage mod. That's about it. You'd better get what you want done (REs, knives, shotgun, sniper) because that's all your cloak suit is going to be able to do. bamboo x in 1.8 (Boundless Heavy Machine Gun) you bamboo x (Ion Pistol) you bamboo x (Forge Gun) you
STEALTH HUNTER ZERO D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 174	Posted - 2014.03.15 09:23:00 - [2] - Quote Thats the way it should be. The scout suits have a 15% CPU/PG reduction per level for the cloak, thats what its meant for... silly logi's.
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 224	Posted - 2014.03.15 09:25:00 - [3] - Quote STEALTH HUNTER ZERO wrote: Thats the way it should be. The scout suits have a 15% CPU/PG reduction per level for the cloak, thats what its meant for... silly logi's. Oh, I never even saw that because I'm just not the scout type of player. Lol. Wait a minute, 15% PER LEVEL? bamboo x in 1.8 (Boundless Heavy Machine Gun) you bamboo x (Ion Pistol) you bamboo x (Forge Gun) you
Foundation Seldon Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 552	Posted - 2014.03.15 09:25:00 - [4] - Quote Did we ever get confirmation about whether or not the Logistics skill applies to the cloaking equipment? Saga v. Methana Balance
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 224	Posted - 2014.03.15 09:28:00 - [5] - Quote That's okay because the heavy splash damage resistance is 5% per level bamboo x in 1.8 (Boundless Heavy Machine Gun) you bamboo x (Ion Pistol) you bamboo x (Forge Gun) you
STEALTH HUNTER ZERO D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 174	Posted - 2014.03.15 09:29:00 - [6] - Quote Foundation Seldon wrote: Did we ever get confirmation about whether or not the Logistics skill applies to the cloaking equipment? The 5 or 10% equipment skill logi's get does NOT apply to the cloak. And yes its 15% per level, however it will still take quite a bit of room up on a scout suit.
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 224	Posted - 2014.03.15 09:29:00 - [7] - Quote Foundation Seldon wrote: Did we ever get confirmation about whether or not the Logistics skill applies to the cloaking equipment? It should. Cloaks are being treated as equipment. bamboo x in 1.8 (Boundless Heavy Machine Gun) you bamboo x (Ion Pistol) you bamboo x (Forge Gun) you
Zirzo Valcyn Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 203	Posted - 2014.03.15 09:30:00 - [8] - Quote it's cool their making them spend SP to be able to do something with cloak with the %15 scout bonus, being effective with cloak should take a good amount of SP u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll. forum warrior .189
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 224	Posted - 2014.03.15 09:30:00 - [9] - Quote STEALTH HUNTER ZERO wrote: Foundation Seldon wrote: Did we ever get confirmation about whether or not the Logistics skill applies to the cloaking equipment? The 5 or 10% equipment skill logi's get does NOT apply to the cloak. And yes its 15% per level, however it will still take quite a bit of room up on a scout suit. link or didnt happen bamboo x in 1.8 (Boundless Heavy Machine Gun) you bamboo x (Ion Pistol) you bamboo x (Forge Gun) you
STEALTH HUNTER ZERO D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 174	Posted - 2014.03.15 09:32:00 - [10] - Quote bamboo x wrote: Foundation Seldon wrote: Did we ever get confirmation about whether or not the Logistics skill applies to the cloaking equipment? It should. Cloaks are being treated as equipment. LOL so you want the logi slayers to be able to tank over 1000 EHP and become invisible... so not OP, lets do it CCP!!! smh

Foundation Seldon Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 553	Posted - 2014.03.15 09:39:00 - [11] - Quote STEALTH HUNTER ZERO wrote: bamboo x wrote: Foundation Seldon wrote: Did we ever get confirmation about whether or not the Logistics skill applies to the cloaking equipment? It should. Cloaks are being treated as equipment. LOL so you want the logi slayers to be able to tank over 1000 EHP and become invisible... so not OP, lets do it CCP!!! smh What he does or doesn't want has nothing to do with what he posted, he's just saying that the equipment bonus on the logi would apply to cloaks because cloaks are considered equipment. It makes sense given what we know. You said : "The 5 or 10% equipment skill logi's get does NOT apply to the cloak." Do you have a source for that? Saga v. Methana Balance
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 224	Posted - 2014.03.15 09:42:00 - [12] - Quote Exactly. There's something on the internet called semantics, which means you can't infer the emotion behind someone's words when they are typing it, like you would if they were speaking to you. bamboo x in 1.8 (Boundless Heavy Machine Gun) you bamboo x (Ion Pistol) you bamboo x (Forge Gun) you
STEALTH HUNTER ZERO D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 175	Posted - 2014.03.15 09:54:00 - [13] - Quote Foundation Seldon wrote: STEALTH HUNTER ZERO wrote: bamboo x wrote: Foundation Seldon wrote: Did we ever get confirmation about whether or not the Logistics skill applies to the cloaking equipment? It should. Cloaks are being treated as equipment. LOL so you want the logi slayers to be able to tank over 1000 EHP and become invisible... so not OP, lets do it CCP!!! smh What he does or doesn't want has nothing to do with what he posted, he's just saying that the equipment bonus on the logi would apply to cloaks because cloaks are considered equipment. It makes sense given what we know. You said : "The 5 or 10% equipment skill logi's get does NOT apply to the cloak." Do you have a source for that? I'm looking for the Dev post, but I'm extremely tired since its late. I know for certain they said it does not apply tho.
Foundation Seldon Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 553	Posted - 2014.03.15 09:56:00 - [14] - Quote STEALTH HUNTER ZERO wrote: Foundation Seldon wrote: STEALTH HUNTER ZERO wrote: bamboo x wrote: Foundation Seldon wrote: Did we ever get confirmation about whether or not the Logistics skill applies to the cloaking equipment? It should. Cloaks are being treated as equipment. LOL so you want the logi slayers to be able to tank over 1000 EHP and become invisible... so not OP, lets do it CCP!!! smh What he does or doesn't want has nothing to do with what he posted, he's just saying that the equipment bonus on the logi would apply to cloaks because cloaks are considered equipment. It makes sense given what we know. You said : "The 5 or 10% equipment skill logi's get does NOT apply to the cloak." Do you have a source for that? I'm looking for the Dev post, but I'm extremely tired since its late. I know for certain they said it does not apply tho. I'll ask around on IRC, rest is more important than proving a point to some anonymous dude on the internet. :P Saga v. Methana Balance
Dunk Mujunk RestlessSpirits 614	Posted - 2014.03.15 10:04:00 - [15] - Quote The way the dev blog makes it sound, 5% reduction per level will apply to cloak. http://dust514.com/news/blog/2014/03/equipment-uprising-1.8/ Not very difficult to google. C'mon people. Switzerland is small and neutral. We're more like Germany. Ambitious and misunderstood. Futurama
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 225	Posted - 2014.03.15 10:24:00 - [16] - Quote Dunk Mujunk wrote: The way the dev blog makes it sound, 5% reduction per level will apply to cloak. http://dust514.com/news/blog/2014/03/equipment-uprising-1.8/ Not very difficult to google. C'mon people. People are just scared the logi will have the cloak and don't want to believe it lol but it's only fair if scouts have one You'll be glad to have an Amarr Logi with a cloak and proto uplinks on your team bamboo x in 1.8 (Boundless HMG) you bamboo x (Ion or Scrambler Pistol) you bamboo x (Forge Gun or AV nade) your tank
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 13401	Posted - 2014.03.15 10:50:00 - [17] - Quote I poked around already, the logistics bonus DOES NOT APPLY. Cloaks are classed utilities and not equipment. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 3242	Posted - 2014.03.15 10:55:00 - [18] - Quote STEALTH HUNTER ZERO wrote: bamboo x wrote: Foundation Seldon wrote: Did we ever get confirmation about whether or not the Logistics skill applies to the cloaking equipment? It should. Cloaks are being treated as equipment. LOL so you want the logi slayers to be able to tank over 1000 EHP and become invisible... so not OP, lets do it CCP!!! smh Have you really not compared all the stats of the new assaults and logistics? Anybody that chooses to be a 'logi slayer' is going to be asking for a respec on March 26th and I'll be laughing. Adapt or Die // Republic Lance Commander // @ReesNoturana
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 226	Posted - 2014.03.15 11:00:00 - [19] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I poked around already, the logistics bonus DOES NOT APPLY. Cloaks are classed utilities and not equipment. Still. All but the Minmatar Logi will be useful with a cloak. Unless they're doing some weird kind of... stealth repping... bamboo x in 1.8 (Boundless HMG) you bamboo x (Ion or Scrambler Pistol) you bamboo x (Forge Gun or AV nade) your tank
Dunk Mujunk RestlessSpirits 614	Posted - 2014.03.15 11:04:00 - [20] - Quote Dev blog should probably be revised. Switzerland is small and neutral. We're more like Germany. Ambitious and misunderstood. Futurama

I-Shayz-I I-----I 2515	Posted - 2014.03.15 11:05:00 - [21] - Quote But still, the basic cloak only costs 160 cpu and 35 pg Minmatar logi with max skills has 512 cpu and 102 pg. As long as you don't use prototype weapons or anything you can fit a cloak no problem. Besides, the only thing the advanced and proto ones do is let you cloak for longer...but 30 seconds is plenty long enough as a minmatar to run away, or to wait and hide while your shield comes back up and your armor reps to full. Sure you might have to limit yourself to some modules but it's still completely possible even without the scout bonus. Heck, an advanced commando could even fit one while still using two weapons. Links: List of Most Important Threads I make logistics videos!
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 226	Posted - 2014.03.15 11:07:00 - [22] - Quote Eh. I hope there's a militia cloak so i can try it out [quote=CCP Saberwing]War Elephants.[quote] Helms deep confirmed
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 13403	Posted - 2014.03.15 11:59:00 - [23] - Quote bamboo x wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I poked around already, the logistics bonus DOES NOT APPLY. Cloaks are classed utilities and not equipment. Still. All but the Minmatar Logi will be useful with a cloak. Unless they're doing some weird kind of... stealth repping... cant cloak and repair at the same time though. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 228	Posted - 2014.03.15 14:47:00 - [24] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: bamboo x wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I poked around already, the logistics bonus DOES NOT APPLY. Cloaks are classed utilities and not equipment. Still. All but the Minmatar Logi will be useful with a cloak. Unless they're doing some weird kind of... stealth repping... cant cloak and repair at the same time though. which i think is a very good thing. no invisible knives and shotguns hackable ladders ftw
Louis Domi Pradox One Proficiency V. 22	Posted - 2014.03.15 14:54:00 - [25] - Quote was playing around a bit and made a cloaked logi cko http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/221/695
ResistanceGTA D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 516	Posted - 2014.03.15 14:58:00 - [26] - Quote Louis Domi wrote: was playing around a bit and made a cloaked logi cko http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/221/695 Should use the State Kaalakiota Specialist Rail Rifle, same fitting costs as the SB-39. xSivartx is my Heavy. There are many like him, but he is my own... So, other Logi's back off, those are my Warpoints!
Louis Domi Pradox One Proficiency V. 23	Posted - 2014.03.15 15:00:00 - [27] - Quote ResistanceGTA wrote: Louis Domi wrote: was playing around a bit and made a cloaked logi cko http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/221/695 Should use the State Kaalakiota Specialist Rail Rifle, same fitting costs as the SB-39. forgot about those since i dont usually do fw thanks
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 822	Posted - 2014.03.15 15:56:00 - [28] - Quote Guess what? My logi slayer suit still has enough CPU/PG to fit a cloak and still carry a proto weapon and have way more EHP than a scout. Will it work? We shall see.
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 1801	Posted - 2014.03.15 16:01:00 - [29] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I poked around already, the logistics bonus DOES NOT APPLY. Cloaks are classed utilities and not equipment. Sweet! Thanks for looking and GOOD CALL CCP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! =) I support SP rollover.
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 228	Posted - 2014.03.15 16:19:00 - [30] - Quote Louis Domi wrote: was playing around a bit and made a cloaked logi cko http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/221/695 That scares me. Goddamn Caldari and their flawless fitting of CPU/PG upgrades... hackable ladders ftw

Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 1655	Posted - 2014.03.15 16:30:00 - [31] - Quote bamboo x wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I poked around already, the logistics bonus DOES NOT APPLY. Cloaks are classed utilities and not equipment. Still. All but the Minmatar Logi will be useful with a cloak. Unless they're doing some weird kind of... stealth repping... Can't. You can only have the cloak equipped. Taking something out will decloak you. Shooting will decloak you. Farting will decloak you. Hacking will NOT decloak you.
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 1801	Posted - 2014.03.15 16:37:00 - [32] - Quote bamboo x wrote: Louis Domi wrote: was playing around a bit and made a cloaked logi cko http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/221/695 That scares me. Goddamn Caldari and their flawless fitting of CPU/PG upgrades... The reign of the Caldai logi is not completely over, it seems. I support SP rollover.
Sole Fenychs Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 249	Posted - 2014.03.15 17:06:00 - [33] - Quote Up until now I was always running basic suits. They have been more than sufficient and I only ran into trouble when I tried a fit on my scout with a proto sniper rifle. But the cloak gives me reason to go proto on non-scouts. A basic cloak on a commando will be hilariously awesome, especially because it cuts down the scan profile to a fourth, which would be 15.
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 229	Posted - 2014.03.15 17:13:00 - [34] - Quote Sole Fenychs wrote: A basic cloak on a commando will be terrifying fixed hackable ladders ftw
Yan Darn Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 346	Posted - 2014.03.15 17:16:00 - [35] - Quote Sole Fenychs wrote: Up until now I was always running basic suits. They have been more than sufficient and I only ran into trouble when I tried a fit on my scout with a proto sniper rifle. But the cloak gives me reason to go proto on non-scouts. A basic cloak on a commando will be hilariously awesome, especially because it cuts down the scan profile to a fourth, which would be 15. I'm pretty sure it works like dampeners - that is, it will reduce profile to 75%, reducing it by 25%, not reduce it to 25%. You know what I mean. The Ghost of Bravo
Sole Fenychs Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 249	Posted - 2014.03.15 18:21:00 - [36] - Quote Yan Darn wrote: I'm pretty sure it works like dampeners - that is, it will reduce profile to 75%, reducing it by 25%, not reduce it to 25%. You know what I mean. But it's not stated as a percentage. It's stated as a ratio, which implies a multiplication by 0.25 and not a reduction by 25%. ...We need a bluetag on that.


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