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bamboo x
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.03.15 09:19:00 -
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At what cost will you be using your cloaks?
The Minmatar Logi has the highest CPU/PG in this game and the proto cloak uses up most if it. I just checked it myself and I'd only be able to put on a proto sniper rifle and one damage mod. That's about it.
You'd better get what you want done (REs, knives, shotgun, sniper) because that's all your cloak suit is going to be able to do.
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STEALTH HUNTER ZERO
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.03.15 09:23:00 -
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Thats the way it should be.
The scout suits have a 15% CPU/PG reduction per level for the cloak, thats what its meant for... silly logi's. |
bamboo x
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
224
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Posted - 2014.03.15 09:25:00 -
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STEALTH HUNTER ZERO wrote:Thats the way it should be.
The scout suits have a 15% CPU/PG reduction per level for the cloak, thats what its meant for... silly logi's.
Oh, I never even saw that because I'm just not the scout type of player. Lol.
Wait a minute, 15% PER LEVEL?
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bamboo x (Ion Pistol) you
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Foundation Seldon
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
552
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Posted - 2014.03.15 09:25:00 -
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Did we ever get confirmation about whether or not the Logistics skill applies to the cloaking equipment?
Saga v. Methana Balance
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bamboo x
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
224
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Posted - 2014.03.15 09:28:00 -
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That's okay because the heavy splash damage resistance is 5% per level
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STEALTH HUNTER ZERO
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.03.15 09:29:00 -
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Foundation Seldon wrote:Did we ever get confirmation about whether or not the Logistics skill applies to the cloaking equipment? The 5 or 10% equipment skill logi's get does NOT apply to the cloak.
And yes its 15% per level, however it will still take quite a bit of room up on a scout suit. |
bamboo x
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.03.15 09:29:00 -
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Foundation Seldon wrote:Did we ever get confirmation about whether or not the Logistics skill applies to the cloaking equipment?
It should. Cloaks are being treated as equipment.
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Zirzo Valcyn
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
203
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Posted - 2014.03.15 09:30:00 -
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it's cool their making them spend SP to be able to do something with cloak with the %15 scout bonus, being effective with cloak should take a good amount of SP
u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll.
forum warrior .189
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bamboo x
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
224
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Posted - 2014.03.15 09:30:00 -
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STEALTH HUNTER ZERO wrote:Foundation Seldon wrote:Did we ever get confirmation about whether or not the Logistics skill applies to the cloaking equipment? The 5 or 10% equipment skill logi's get does NOT apply to the cloak. And yes its 15% per level, however it will still take quite a bit of room up on a scout suit.
link or didnt happen
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STEALTH HUNTER ZERO
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.03.15 09:32:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:Foundation Seldon wrote:Did we ever get confirmation about whether or not the Logistics skill applies to the cloaking equipment? It should. Cloaks are being treated as equipment. LOL so you want the logi slayers to be able to tank over 1000 EHP and become invisible... so not OP, lets do it CCP!!! smh |
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Foundation Seldon
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
553
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Posted - 2014.03.15 09:39:00 -
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STEALTH HUNTER ZERO wrote:bamboo x wrote:Foundation Seldon wrote:Did we ever get confirmation about whether or not the Logistics skill applies to the cloaking equipment? It should. Cloaks are being treated as equipment. LOL so you want the logi slayers to be able to tank over 1000 EHP and become invisible... so not OP, lets do it CCP!!! smh
What he does or doesn't want has nothing to do with what he posted, he's just saying that the equipment bonus on the logi would apply to cloaks because cloaks are considered equipment. It makes sense given what we know.
You said :
"The 5 or 10% equipment skill logi's get does NOT apply to the cloak."
Do you have a source for that?
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bamboo x
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
224
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Posted - 2014.03.15 09:42:00 -
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Exactly. There's something on the internet called semantics, which means you can't infer the emotion behind someone's words when they are typing it, like you would if they were speaking to you.
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bamboo x (Ion Pistol) you
bamboo x (Forge Gun) you
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STEALTH HUNTER ZERO
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.03.15 09:54:00 -
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Foundation Seldon wrote:STEALTH HUNTER ZERO wrote:bamboo x wrote:Foundation Seldon wrote:Did we ever get confirmation about whether or not the Logistics skill applies to the cloaking equipment? It should. Cloaks are being treated as equipment. LOL so you want the logi slayers to be able to tank over 1000 EHP and become invisible... so not OP, lets do it CCP!!! smh What he does or doesn't want has nothing to do with what he posted, he's just saying that the equipment bonus on the logi would apply to cloaks because cloaks are considered equipment. It makes sense given what we know. You said : "The 5 or 10% equipment skill logi's get does NOT apply to the cloak." Do you have a source for that? I'm looking for the Dev post, but I'm extremely tired since its late. I know for certain they said it does not apply tho. |
Foundation Seldon
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
553
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Posted - 2014.03.15 09:56:00 -
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STEALTH HUNTER ZERO wrote:Foundation Seldon wrote:STEALTH HUNTER ZERO wrote:bamboo x wrote:Foundation Seldon wrote:Did we ever get confirmation about whether or not the Logistics skill applies to the cloaking equipment? It should. Cloaks are being treated as equipment. LOL so you want the logi slayers to be able to tank over 1000 EHP and become invisible... so not OP, lets do it CCP!!! smh What he does or doesn't want has nothing to do with what he posted, he's just saying that the equipment bonus on the logi would apply to cloaks because cloaks are considered equipment. It makes sense given what we know. You said : "The 5 or 10% equipment skill logi's get does NOT apply to the cloak." Do you have a source for that? I'm looking for the Dev post, but I'm extremely tired since its late. I know for certain they said it does not apply tho.
I'll ask around on IRC, rest is more important than proving a point to some anonymous dude on the internet. :P
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Dunk Mujunk
RestlessSpirits
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Posted - 2014.03.15 10:04:00 -
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The way the dev blog makes it sound, 5% reduction per level will apply to cloak.
http://dust514.com/news/blog/2014/03/equipment-uprising-1.8/
Not very difficult to google. C'mon people.
Switzerland is small and neutral. We're more like Germany. Ambitious and misunderstood.
Futurama
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bamboo x
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
225
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Posted - 2014.03.15 10:24:00 -
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People are just scared the logi will have the cloak and don't want to believe it lol
but it's only fair if scouts have one
You'll be glad to have an Amarr Logi with a cloak and proto uplinks on your team
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.03.15 10:50:00 -
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I poked around already, the logistics bonus DOES NOT APPLY. Cloaks are classed utilities and not equipment.
CPM 0 Secretary
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist
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Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
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Posted - 2014.03.15 10:55:00 -
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STEALTH HUNTER ZERO wrote:bamboo x wrote:Foundation Seldon wrote:Did we ever get confirmation about whether or not the Logistics skill applies to the cloaking equipment? It should. Cloaks are being treated as equipment. LOL so you want the logi slayers to be able to tank over 1000 EHP and become invisible... so not OP, lets do it CCP!!! smh
Have you really not compared all the stats of the new assaults and logistics? Anybody that chooses to be a 'logi slayer' is going to be asking for a respec on March 26th and I'll be laughing.
Adapt or Die // Republic Lance Commander // @ReesNoturana
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bamboo x
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.03.15 11:00:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I poked around already, the logistics bonus DOES NOT APPLY. Cloaks are classed utilities and not equipment.
Still. All but the Minmatar Logi will be useful with a cloak. Unless they're doing some weird kind of... stealth repping...
bamboo x in 1.8 (Boundless HMG) you
bamboo x (Ion or Scrambler Pistol) you
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Dunk Mujunk
RestlessSpirits
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Posted - 2014.03.15 11:04:00 -
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Dev blog should probably be revised.
Switzerland is small and neutral. We're more like Germany. Ambitious and misunderstood.
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I-Shayz-I
I-----I
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Posted - 2014.03.15 11:05:00 -
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But still, the basic cloak only costs 160 cpu and 35 pg Minmatar logi with max skills has 512 cpu and 102 pg.
As long as you don't use prototype weapons or anything you can fit a cloak no problem. Besides, the only thing the advanced and proto ones do is let you cloak for longer...but 30 seconds is plenty long enough as a minmatar to run away, or to wait and hide while your shield comes back up and your armor reps to full.
Sure you might have to limit yourself to some modules but it's still completely possible even without the scout bonus. Heck, an advanced commando could even fit one while still using two weapons.
Links:
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I make logistics videos!
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bamboo x
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.03.15 11:07:00 -
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Eh. I hope there's a militia cloak so i can try it out
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.03.15 11:59:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I poked around already, the logistics bonus DOES NOT APPLY. Cloaks are classed utilities and not equipment. Still. All but the Minmatar Logi will be useful with a cloak. Unless they're doing some weird kind of... stealth repping...
cant cloak and repair at the same time though.
CPM 0 Secretary
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist
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bamboo x
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.03.15 14:47:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:bamboo x wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I poked around already, the logistics bonus DOES NOT APPLY. Cloaks are classed utilities and not equipment. Still. All but the Minmatar Logi will be useful with a cloak. Unless they're doing some weird kind of... stealth repping... cant cloak and repair at the same time though.
which i think is a very good thing. no invisible knives and shotguns
hackable ladders ftw
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Louis Domi
Pradox One Proficiency V.
22
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Posted - 2014.03.15 14:54:00 -
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was playing around a bit and made a cloaked logi cko http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/221/695 |
ResistanceGTA
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.03.15 14:58:00 -
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Should use the State Kaalakiota Specialist Rail Rifle, same fitting costs as the SB-39.
xSivartx is my Heavy. There are many like him, but he is my own...
So, other Logi's back off, those are my Warpoints!
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Louis Domi
Pradox One Proficiency V.
23
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Posted - 2014.03.15 15:00:00 -
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ResistanceGTA wrote:Should use the State Kaalakiota Specialist Rail Rifle, same fitting costs as the SB-39.
forgot about those since i dont usually do fw thanks |
Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
822
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Posted - 2014.03.15 15:56:00 -
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Guess what?
My logi slayer suit still has enough CPU/PG to fit a cloak and still carry a proto weapon and have way more EHP than a scout.
Will it work?
We shall see. |
Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
1801
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Posted - 2014.03.15 16:01:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I poked around already, the logistics bonus DOES NOT APPLY. Cloaks are classed utilities and not equipment. Sweet! Thanks for looking and GOOD CALL CCP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! =)
I support SP rollover.
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bamboo x
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.03.15 16:19:00 -
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That scares me. Goddamn Caldari and their flawless fitting of CPU/PG upgrades...
hackable ladders ftw
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