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        |  bamboo x
 Eternal Beings
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      | Posted - 2014.03.15 09:19:00 -
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 At what cost will you be using your cloaks?
 
 The Minmatar Logi has the highest CPU/PG in this game and the proto cloak uses up most if it. I just checked it myself and I'd only be able to put on a proto sniper rifle and one damage mod. That's about it.
 
 You'd better get what you want done (REs, knives, shotgun, sniper) because that's all your cloak suit is going to be able to do.
 
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        |  STEALTH HUNTER ZERO
 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
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      | Posted - 2014.03.15 09:23:00 -
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 Thats the way it should be.
 
 The scout suits have a 15% CPU/PG reduction per level for the cloak, thats what its meant for... silly logi's.
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        |  bamboo x
 Eternal Beings
 Proficiency V.
 
 224
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.15 09:25:00 -
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 STEALTH HUNTER ZERO wrote:Thats the way it should be.
 The scout suits have a 15% CPU/PG reduction per level for the cloak, thats what its meant for... silly logi's.
 
 Oh, I never even saw that because I'm just not the scout type of player. Lol.
 
 Wait a minute, 15% PER LEVEL?
  
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        |  Foundation Seldon
 Molon Labe.
 General Tso's Alliance
 
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      | Posted - 2014.03.15 09:25:00 -
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 Did we ever get confirmation about whether or not the Logistics skill applies to the cloaking equipment?
 
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        |  bamboo x
 Eternal Beings
 Proficiency V.
 
 224
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.15 09:28:00 -
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  That's okay because the heavy splash damage resistance is 5% per level 
 bamboo x in 1.8 (Boundless Heavy Machine Gun) you bamboo x (Ion Pistol) you bamboo x (Forge Gun) you | 
      
      
        |  STEALTH HUNTER ZERO
 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
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      | Posted - 2014.03.15 09:29:00 -
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 Foundation Seldon wrote:Did we ever get confirmation about whether or not the Logistics skill applies to the cloaking equipment? The 5 or 10% equipment skill logi's get does NOT apply to the cloak.
 
 And yes its 15% per level, however it will still take quite a bit of room up on a scout suit.
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        |  bamboo x
 Eternal Beings
 Proficiency V.
 
 224
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.15 09:29:00 -
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 Foundation Seldon wrote:Did we ever get confirmation about whether or not the Logistics skill applies to the cloaking equipment? 
 It should. Cloaks are being treated as equipment.
 
 bamboo x in 1.8 (Boundless Heavy Machine Gun) you bamboo x (Ion Pistol) you bamboo x (Forge Gun) you | 
      
      
        |  Zirzo Valcyn
 Kameira Lodge
 Amarr Empire
 
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      | Posted - 2014.03.15 09:30:00 -
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 it's cool their making them spend SP to be able to do something with cloak with the %15 scout bonus, being effective with cloak should take a good amount of SP
 
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        |  bamboo x
 Eternal Beings
 Proficiency V.
 
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      | Posted - 2014.03.15 09:30:00 -
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 STEALTH HUNTER ZERO wrote:Foundation Seldon wrote:Did we ever get confirmation about whether or not the Logistics skill applies to the cloaking equipment? The 5 or 10% equipment skill logi's get does NOT apply to the cloak. And yes its 15% per level, however it will still take quite a bit of room up on a scout suit. 
 link or didnt happen
 
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        |  STEALTH HUNTER ZERO
 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
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      | Posted - 2014.03.15 09:32:00 -
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 bamboo x wrote:Foundation Seldon wrote:Did we ever get confirmation about whether or not the Logistics skill applies to the cloaking equipment? It should. Cloaks are being treated as equipment. LOL so you want the logi slayers to be able to tank over 1000 EHP and become invisible... so not OP, lets do it CCP!!! smh
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        |  Foundation Seldon
 Molon Labe.
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 553
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.15 09:39:00 -
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 STEALTH HUNTER ZERO wrote:bamboo x wrote:Foundation Seldon wrote:Did we ever get confirmation about whether or not the Logistics skill applies to the cloaking equipment? It should. Cloaks are being treated as equipment. LOL so you want the logi slayers to be able to tank over 1000 EHP and become invisible... so not OP, lets do it CCP!!! smh 
 What he does or doesn't want has nothing to do with what he posted, he's just saying that the equipment bonus on the logi would apply to cloaks because cloaks are considered equipment. It makes sense given what we know.
 
 You said :
 
 "The 5 or 10% equipment skill logi's get does NOT apply to the cloak."
 
 Do you have a source for that?
 
 
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        |  bamboo x
 Eternal Beings
 Proficiency V.
 
 224
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.15 09:42:00 -
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 Exactly. There's something on the internet called semantics, which means you can't infer the emotion behind someone's words when they are typing it, like you would if they were speaking to you.
 
 bamboo x in 1.8 (Boundless Heavy Machine Gun) you bamboo x (Ion Pistol) you bamboo x (Forge Gun) you | 
      
      
        |  STEALTH HUNTER ZERO
 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
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      | Posted - 2014.03.15 09:54:00 -
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 Foundation Seldon wrote:STEALTH HUNTER ZERO wrote:bamboo x wrote:Foundation Seldon wrote:Did we ever get confirmation about whether or not the Logistics skill applies to the cloaking equipment? It should. Cloaks are being treated as equipment. LOL so you want the logi slayers to be able to tank over 1000 EHP and become invisible... so not OP, lets do it CCP!!! smh What he does or doesn't want has nothing to do with what he posted, he's just saying that the equipment bonus on the logi would apply to cloaks because cloaks are considered equipment. It makes sense given what we know. You said : "The 5 or 10% equipment skill logi's get does NOT apply to the cloak." Do you have a source for that? I'm looking for the Dev post, but I'm extremely tired since its late. I know for certain they said it does not apply tho.
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        |  Foundation Seldon
 Molon Labe.
 General Tso's Alliance
 
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      | Posted - 2014.03.15 09:56:00 -
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 STEALTH HUNTER ZERO wrote:Foundation Seldon wrote:STEALTH HUNTER ZERO wrote:bamboo x wrote:Foundation Seldon wrote:Did we ever get confirmation about whether or not the Logistics skill applies to the cloaking equipment? It should. Cloaks are being treated as equipment. LOL so you want the logi slayers to be able to tank over 1000 EHP and become invisible... so not OP, lets do it CCP!!! smh What he does or doesn't want has nothing to do with what he posted, he's just saying that the equipment bonus on the logi would apply to cloaks because cloaks are considered equipment. It makes sense given what we know. You said : "The 5 or 10% equipment skill logi's get does NOT apply to the cloak." Do you have a source for that? I'm looking for the Dev post, but I'm extremely tired since its late. I know for certain they said it does not apply tho. 
 I'll ask around on IRC, rest is more important than proving a point to some anonymous dude on the internet.
 :P
 
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        |  Dunk Mujunk
 RestlessSpirits
 
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      | Posted - 2014.03.15 10:04:00 -
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 The way the dev blog makes it sound, 5% reduction per level will apply to cloak.
 
 http://dust514.com/news/blog/2014/03/equipment-uprising-1.8/
 
 Not very difficult to google. C'mon people.
 
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        |  bamboo x
 Eternal Beings
 Proficiency V.
 
 225
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.15 10:24:00 -
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 People are just scared the logi will have the cloak and don't want to believe it lol
 
 but it's only fair if scouts have one
 
 You'll be glad to have an Amarr Logi with a cloak and proto uplinks on your team
 
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        |  Iron Wolf Saber
 Den of Swords
 
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      | Posted - 2014.03.15 10:50:00 -
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 I poked around already, the logistics bonus DOES NOT APPLY.
 Cloaks are classed utilities and not equipment.
 
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        |  Reav Hannari
 Red Rock Outriders
 
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      | Posted - 2014.03.15 10:55:00 -
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 STEALTH HUNTER ZERO wrote:bamboo x wrote:Foundation Seldon wrote:Did we ever get confirmation about whether or not the Logistics skill applies to the cloaking equipment? It should. Cloaks are being treated as equipment. LOL so you want the logi slayers to be able to tank over 1000 EHP and become invisible... so not OP, lets do it CCP!!! smh 
 Have you really not compared all the stats of the new assaults and logistics? Anybody that chooses to be a 'logi slayer' is going to be asking for a respec on March 26th and I'll be laughing.
 
 
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        |  bamboo x
 Eternal Beings
 Proficiency V.
 
 226
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.15 11:00:00 -
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 Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I poked around already, the logistics bonus DOES NOT APPLY.Cloaks are classed utilities and not equipment.
 
 Still. All but the Minmatar Logi will be useful with a cloak. Unless they're doing some weird kind of... stealth repping...
 
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        |  Dunk Mujunk
 RestlessSpirits
 
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      | Posted - 2014.03.15 11:04:00 -
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 Dev blog should probably be revised.
 
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        |  I-Shayz-I
 I-----I
 
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      | Posted - 2014.03.15 11:05:00 -
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 But still, the basic cloak only costs 160 cpu and 35 pg
 Minmatar logi with max skills has 512 cpu and 102 pg.
 
 As long as you don't use prototype weapons or anything you can fit a cloak no problem.
 Besides, the only thing the advanced and proto ones do is let you cloak for longer...but 30 seconds is plenty long enough as a minmatar to run away, or to wait and hide while your shield comes back up and your armor reps to full.
 
 Sure you might have to limit yourself to some modules but it's still completely possible even without the scout bonus. Heck, an advanced commando could even fit one while still using two weapons.
 
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        |  bamboo x
 Eternal Beings
 Proficiency V.
 
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      | Posted - 2014.03.15 11:07:00 -
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 Eh. I hope there's a militia cloak so i can try it out
 
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        |  Iron Wolf Saber
 Den of Swords
 
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      | Posted - 2014.03.15 11:59:00 -
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 bamboo x wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I poked around already, the logistics bonus DOES NOT APPLY.Cloaks are classed utilities and not equipment.
 Still. All but the Minmatar Logi will be useful with a cloak. Unless they're doing some weird kind of... stealth repping... 
 cant cloak and repair at the same time though.
 
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        |  bamboo x
 Eternal Beings
 Proficiency V.
 
 228
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.15 14:47:00 -
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 Iron Wolf Saber wrote:bamboo x wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I poked around already, the logistics bonus DOES NOT APPLY.Cloaks are classed utilities and not equipment.
 Still. All but the Minmatar Logi will be useful with a cloak. Unless they're doing some weird kind of... stealth repping... cant cloak and repair at the same time though. 
 which i think is a very good thing. no invisible knives and shotguns
 
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        |  Louis Domi
 Pradox One
 Proficiency V.
 
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      | Posted - 2014.03.15 14:54:00 -
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 was playing around a bit and made a cloaked logi cko
 http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/221/695
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        |  ResistanceGTA
 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
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      | Posted - 2014.03.15 14:58:00 -
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 Should use the State Kaalakiota Specialist Rail Rifle, same fitting costs as the SB-39.
 
 xSivartx is my Heavy. There are many like him, but he is my own... So, other Logi's back off, those are my Warpoints! | 
      
      
        |  Louis Domi
 Pradox One
 Proficiency V.
 
 23
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.15 15:00:00 -
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 ResistanceGTA wrote:Should use the State Kaalakiota Specialist Rail Rifle, same fitting costs as the SB-39. 
 forgot about those since i dont usually do fw thanks
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        |  Leadfoot10
 Molon Labe.
 General Tso's Alliance
 
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      | Posted - 2014.03.15 15:56:00 -
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 Guess what?
 
 My logi slayer suit still has enough CPU/PG to fit a cloak and still carry a proto weapon and have way more EHP than a scout.
 
 Will it work?
 
 We shall see.
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        |  Vrain Matari
 Mikramurka Shock Troop
 Minmatar Republic
 
 1801
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.15 16:01:00 -
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 Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I poked around already, the logistics bonus DOES NOT APPLY.Cloaks are classed utilities and not equipment.
 Sweet! Thanks for looking and GOOD CALL CCP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! =)
 
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        |  bamboo x
 Eternal Beings
 Proficiency V.
 
 228
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.15 16:19:00 -
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 That scares me.
  Goddamn Caldari and their flawless fitting of CPU/PG upgrades... 
 hackable ladders ftw | 
      
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