DUST Search - 1.8 FOTM Minmatar Commando with dual Mass Drivers

Atiim wrote:

Vitharr Foebane wrote:

Atiim wrote:

Yes, but your MD will become a Teadybear Launcher against the Sentinel Spam.

The Scout Spam will balance out the Sentinel Spam, and the MD Spam will balance out the Scout Spam., leading to something like this:

Scout > Sentinel > MD > Scout

Hopefully this shall add a refreshing change to the current zerg-rush "tactics" that are in play.

C'mon Atiim you don't expect the FOTM chasers to stick to the suit with the most cons in the game aside from commandos.

I believe the Sentinel Spam will be a monkey see, monkey do type of thing, kind of like the Mass Driver.

Everyone and their grandmothers begin using it, realizes that it has a truckload of disadvantages, and moves onto another item.

The 1.8 FoTM however, will be the Gunnlogi. Swarm Launchers do almost nothing to it, and Forge Gun proficiency skills will no longer affect them, and the only anti-shield AV weapon in the entire game is the Plasma Cannon, which does next to nothing to anything beyond an LAV.

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I-Shayz-I I-----I 2513	Posted - 2014.03.15 06:03:00 - [1] - Quote Cons of the Mass Driver: -Limited range -Low DPS -Low ammo count -Slow reloads Pros of using a commando: -Increase to weapon damage -Can carry two light weapons, effectively doubling the time it takes for you to need ammo -Bonus to reload time The minmatar commando gets a bonus to explosives weapons and is fast enough to cover enough ground to get to the enemy. Also has an equipment slot for a nanohive for back-up ammo, and enough HP to where you can use your module slots instead of damage mods and speed. On top of all this because you can carry two of them, you can fire off 12 rounds (or 16 with assaults) before reloading...and your reload is super fast! Alongside the buff to Mass Drivers and decrease in TTK for rifles, I predict that we might just see fittings similar to this in 1.8 At least, that's what I'll be running to make the most of my prof 4 MDs :D Links: List of Most Important Threads I make logistics videos!
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7533	Posted - 2014.03.15 06:07:00 - [2] - Quote From my experience, using the same weapon in both light weapon slots is such a waste of the tactical potential of the commando. I'm not too concerned with seeing such one-trick-pony commandos. "You're not even Aero, you're just Aero's friend."
Enji Elric Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 181	Posted - 2014.03.15 06:07:00 - [3] - Quote made me giggle but honestly i think id run a mass driver and a combat rifle
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 5707	Posted - 2014.03.15 06:08:00 - [4] - Quote Yes, but your MD will become a Teadybear Launcher against the Sentinel Spam. The Scout Spam will balance out the Sentinel Spam, and the MD Spam will balance out the Scout Spam., leading to something like this: Scout > Sentinel > MD > Scout Hopefully this shall add a refeshing change to the current zerg-rush "tactics" that are in play. AV > HAV > INF > AV \| Not: HAV > AV GëÑ INF [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Zirzo Valcyn Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 200	Posted - 2014.03.15 06:12:00 - [5] - Quote MD will be the bane of cloakers i bet. i see more use fitting a CR with mine. needless to say i'm pretty stoked to go min commando. i've been using MD since before chrome but having a CR also will be awesome. it's cool because in past games i've loved the anti cloaker role u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll. forum warrior .189
I-Shayz-I I-----I 2513	Posted - 2014.03.15 06:35:00 - [6] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: From my experience, using the same weapon in both light weapon slots is such a waste of the tactical potential of the commando. I'm not too concerned with seeing such one-trick-pony commandos. I could always be more OP by using an SR to get the proficiency bonuses from both shields and armor, along with the damage bonus of each type too (20% to shields + 15% prof bonus with SCR, 20% bonus to armor + 12% prof bonus + 10% commando bonus with MD) lololololololol Links: List of Most Important Threads I make logistics videos!
Zirzo Valcyn Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 201	Posted - 2014.03.15 06:45:00 - [7] - Quote Atiim wrote: Yes, but your MD will become a Teadybear Launcher against the Sentinel Spam. The Scout Spam will balance out the Sentinel Spam, and the MD Spam will balance out the Scout Spam., leading to something like this: Scout > Sentinel > MD > Scout Hopefully this shall add a refeshing change to the current zerg-rush "tactics" that are in play. makes me a little sad because in chrome MD would bane the heavies but i'll take scout if it's on the menu instead u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll. forum warrior .189
Vitharr Foebane Living Like Larry Schwag 762	Posted - 2014.03.15 06:48:00 - [8] - Quote Atiim wrote: Yes, but your MD will become a Teadybear Launcher against the Sentinel Spam. The Scout Spam will balance out the Sentinel Spam, and the MD Spam will balance out the Scout Spam., leading to something like this: Scout > Sentinel > MD > Scout Hopefully this shall add a refeshing change to the current zerg-rush "tactics" that are in play. C'mon Atiim you don't expect the FOTM chasers to stick to the suit with the most cons in the game aside from commandos. Thanks CCP for making the HMG Heavy viable again :3 That's no excuse to slack off on releasing a heavy laser though =.=
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 1897	Posted - 2014.03.15 06:50:00 - [9] - Quote I'll be the Commando with a cloak. I ran the numbers and it is possible. Have fun, troopers. "Go ahead and dual tank. My Commando dual ganks." -Kasote Denzara I'm waiting for my G-I suit. It's what I want.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 5709	Posted - 2014.03.15 07:17:00 - [10] - Quote Vitharr Foebane wrote: Atiim wrote: Yes, but your MD will become a Teadybear Launcher against the Sentinel Spam. The Scout Spam will balance out the Sentinel Spam, and the MD Spam will balance out the Scout Spam., leading to something like this: Scout > Sentinel > MD > Scout Hopefully this shall add a refreshing change to the current zerg-rush "tactics" that are in play. C'mon Atiim you don't expect the FOTM chasers to stick to the suit with the most cons in the game aside from commandos. I believe the Sentinel Spam will be a monkey see, monkey do type of thing, kind of like the Mass Driver. Everyone and their grandmothers begin using it, realizes that it has a truckload of disadvantages, and moves onto another item. The 1.8 FoTM however, will be the Gunnlogi. Swarm Launchers do almost nothing to it, and Forge Gun proficiency skills will no longer affect them, and the only anti-shield AV weapon in the entire game is the Plasma Cannon, which does next to nothing to anything beyond an LAV. AV > HAV > INF > AV \| Not: HAV > AV GëÑ INF [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND

Izlare Lenix FREE AGENTS LP 208	Posted - 2014.03.15 07:19:00 - [11] - Quote Dual mass drivers would be nice for clearing a building, but I think a CR/mass driver combo would be more useful and the commando gives a bonus to both which is sweet. Gun control is not about guns...it's about control. The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.
DEZKA DIABLO 0uter.Heaven 377	Posted - 2014.03.15 07:23:00 - [12] - Quote OR ....... You could run nova knives, and ........................wait for it......... Nova knives. Dead trigger master , an ya I do that ISH ON PURPOSE!
Vitharr Foebane Living Like Larry Schwag 762	Posted - 2014.03.15 07:24:00 - [13] - Quote Atiim wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: Atiim wrote: Yes, but your MD will become a Teadybear Launcher against the Sentinel Spam. The Scout Spam will balance out the Sentinel Spam, and the MD Spam will balance out the Scout Spam., leading to something like this: Scout > Sentinel > MD > Scout Hopefully this shall add a refreshing change to the current zerg-rush "tactics" that are in play. C'mon Atiim you don't expect the FOTM chasers to stick to the suit with the most cons in the game aside from commandos. I believe the Sentinel Spam will be a monkey see, monkey do type of thing, kind of like the Mass Driver. Everyone and their grandmothers begin using it, realizes that it has a truckload of disadvantages, and moves onto another item. The 1.8 FoTM however, will be the Gunnlogi. Swarm Launchers do almost nothing to it, and Forge Gun proficiency skills will no longer affect them, and the only anti-shield AV weapon in the entire game is the Plasma Cannon, which does next to nothing to anything beyond an LAV. well that just means we need for realsies anti shield AV (CCP this means a heavy laser :3) Thanks CCP for making the HMG Heavy viable again :3 That's no excuse to slack off on releasing a heavy laser though =.=
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7535	Posted - 2014.03.15 07:28:00 - [14] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: From my experience, using the same weapon in both light weapon slots is such a waste of the tactical potential of the commando. I'm not too concerned with seeing such one-trick-pony commandos. I could always be more OP by using an SR to get the proficiency bonuses from both shields and armor, along with the damage bonus of each type too (20% to shields + 15% prof bonus with SCR, 20% bonus to armor + 12% prof bonus + 10% commando bonus with MD) lololololololol People have always suggested fits like this currently which have never been as good as they imagine because the amount of time it takes to switch weapons and readjust your aim does not make up for the extra damage you can do to each HP type. Now this may change in 1.8 with new TTK and proficiency adjustments, but I'm still not expecting it to be that worth it. "You're not even Aero, you're just Aero's friend."
I-Shayz-I I-----I 2513	Posted - 2014.03.15 07:40:00 - [15] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: People have always suggested fits like this currently which have never been as good as they imagine because the amount of time it takes to switch weapons and readjust your aim does not make up for the extra damage you can do to each HP type. Now this may change in 1.8 with new TTK and proficiency adjustments, but I'm still not expecting it to be that worth it. Yeah but right now we don't have long TTKs with 4 racial heavies. The commandos, alongside proficiency changes seem to be the counter that heavies will have in 1.8 Aside from cloaked scouts that is. I understand that right now it doesn't matter, but that's mostly because with most weapons you can chew through armor just as fast as shields or vice versa. The proficiency change will make all weapons feel like the scrambler does now, and make the scrambler feel even less effective. We'll just have to wait...but I don't want to wait. Links: List of Most Important Threads I make logistics videos!
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1698	Posted - 2014.03.15 08:02:00 - [16] - Quote I am quite excited for the commandos. Especially the shielded ones, since most will run anti armor weaponry in 1.8. BUT I have to try the effect of larger hitbox will be tonight. Scouts hitbox is freaking awesome. It is really good even if you have low strafe speed apparently. I makes strafing so much more effective in CQC. Dat caldari commando looks very appealing though, such a cool model. Drop it like its hat.
EverNub Da Short Buss RISE of LEGION 20	Posted - 2014.03.25 23:46:00 - [17] - Quote I have been running MD (Mass Driver) since Chrome and i have pretty much every stat on them maxed except only 3/5 in pg usage atm and that was because they Nerfed MD's into the ground prior to 1.8! Side the Point...Mk.o Commandos with dual MD would be a waste, Ill probly Run Swarms or my Combat Rifle as a secondary from it for anti tank or infantry depending on the map of course. My experience running 2 of any weapon is a waste that's why there's 2 slots! Also the swarms proto with prof 5 and my bonus dmg with 1 proto dmg mod = owning tanks! Learn it, love it! Bring back Chrome!
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2246	Posted - 2014.03.25 23:50:00 - [18] - Quote Atiim wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: Atiim wrote: Yes, but your MD will become a Teadybear Launcher against the Sentinel Spam. The Scout Spam will balance out the Sentinel Spam, and the MD Spam will balance out the Scout Spam., leading to something like this: Scout > Sentinel > MD > Scout Hopefully this shall add a refreshing change to the current zerg-rush "tactics" that are in play. C'mon Atiim you don't expect the FOTM chasers to stick to the suit with the most cons in the game aside from commandos. I believe the Sentinel Spam will be a monkey see, monkey do type of thing, kind of like the Mass Driver. Everyone and their grandmothers begin using it, realizes that it has a truckload of disadvantages, and moves onto another item. The 1.8 FoTM however, will be the Gunnlogi. Swarm Launchers do almost nothing to it, and Forge Gun proficiency skills will no longer affect them, and the only anti-shield AV weapon in the entire game is the Plasma Cannon, which does next to nothing to anything beyond an LAV. I would have prefered if you used the term copycat! Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
General12912 Gallente Marine Corps 141	Posted - 2014.03.25 23:54:00 - [19] - Quote Atiim wrote: Yes, but your MD will become a Teadybear Launcher against the Sentinel Spam. The Scout Spam will balance out the Sentinel Spam, and the MD Spam will balance out the Scout Spam., leading to something like this: Scout > Sentinel > MD > Scout Hopefully this shall add a refeshing change to the current zerg-rush "tactics" that are in play. MD was buffed to be the bane of sentinels though. regarless of the splash damage resistance. Assault Gk.0 Gallente Federation Patriot General of the Gallente Marine Corps. Look us up if you want to join.
Bro-metheus Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 43	Posted - 2014.03.26 00:09:00 - [20] - Quote Atiim wrote: Yes, but your MD will become a Teadybear Launcher against the Sentinel Spam. The Scout Spam will balance out the Sentinel Spam, and the MD Spam will balance out the Scout Spam., leading to something like this: Scout > Sentinel > MD > Scout Hopefully this shall add a refeshing change to the current zerg-rush "tactics" that are in play. The sent res does not make as much of a dif you might think it does. sentinel heavys are still easy mode to hit with the MD and fluxes.



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