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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.15 13:44:00 -
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Where does FA fit into all of this? Well, frustrated really. In order to change the status quo, people need to want to do it. NF decided to be cowards so nothing is going to change for a while. When this is over, AE will turn on them because AE has the attention span of a gnat. And NF will have no eve support whatsoever because you just pissed off the only alliance that gives a damn about dust. Have fun with that, I hope the short term bribe was worth it.
As for this whole week, a lot of things happened. Our FC is dealing with very serious RL stuff. Our tankers are all doing whatever the hell they want, so the grand domino effect has led to incredibly one-sided engagements that aren't even worth fielding. The servers have been working like ass, and are elevating certain individuals strafe-based tactics to a much higher tier than they are normally worth.
It's not over, but some re-organization is definitely happening. |
Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
3253
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Posted - 2014.03.15 14:50:00 -
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Maximus Stryker wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Where does FA fit into all of this? Well, frustrated really. In order to change the status quo, people need to want to do it. NF decided to be cowards so nothing is going to change for a while. When this is over, AE will turn on them because AE has the attention span of a gnat. And NF will have no eve support whatsoever because you just pissed off the only alliance that gives a damn about dust. Have fun with that, I hope the short term bribe was worth it.
As for this whole week, a lot of things happened. Our FC is dealing with very serious RL stuff. Our tankers are all doing whatever the hell they want, so the grand domino effect has led to incredibly one-sided engagements that aren't even worth fielding. The servers have been working like ass, and are elevating certain individuals strafe-based tactics to a much higher tier than they are normally worth.
It's not over, but some re-organization is definitely happening. That's unfortunate and best of luck to him. As for your organization as a whole, It is not wise to leave your fate up to one person. You need multiple people that are able to step in and fill leadership roles at any given time. Maybe not as good as your number 1 guy, but you still need some sort of an organizational chart.
There are people who can do exactly that, but in this case it is irrelevant. Leadership can be winged, it just creates an additional difficulty. There is also the tanker problem. You either have tankers online that can hang with the best, or you don't. The dominance of a high-level battle depends entirely on how good your tankers are.
If you are winning the tank fight, you can call in assault dropships to the city without them getting shot down immediately. If you can run ADS, you can knock people off of the high ground and destroy uplinks that are otherwise unreachable. If you can do that, you can push the enemy out of the city.
If you CANT do that, then the enemy can, and YOU will be pushed out of the city and lose the fight. the final nail in the coffin is total tank domination which allows one team to use a blaster in the city for additional pressure, effectively ending the fight.
Everything begins and ends with your tankers being better than the enemy tankers, and having just as many if not more. If you can't meet that requirement then the battle was over before it started. In our case, the tankers haven't been around lately, so the requirement has not been met. |
Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
3253
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Posted - 2014.03.15 15:17:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:NobIesse Oblige wrote:Kain Spero wrote:Wait sec.... so Tso as an alliance of 3000+ members (most of those Eve of course) you couldn't find 1 person in all of FA and 15 guys in all of Tso to field the matches yesterday?
Please tell me more. Meh...I guess maybe friday night is pub night for the non no-lifers? I guess Saturday morning is when the Tso No-lifers are supposed to come out. I'm sorry your mass attack on Nyain San didn't work out as planned.
Pros and Cons of Kane's glorious plan.
Pros
+Get some money that doesn't have any impact on current political, social, or military standings of NF.
Cons
-Lose EVE support permanently
-Lose all Dust allies
-Hurt reputation
-Ensure that at any given time after this engagement you will be fighting a war on 2 fronts, which you will not not be able to field multiple teams for.
Congratulations, you just lost Dust.
Can I have your stuff? |
Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
3256
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Posted - 2014.03.15 16:04:00 -
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bigolenuts wrote:[quote=Himiko Kuronaga
As for this whole week, a lot of things happened. Our FC is dealing with very serious RL stuff. Our tankers are all doing whatever the hell they want, so the grand domino effect has led to incredibly one-sided engagements that aren't even worth fielding. The servers have been working like ass, and are elevating certain individuals strafe-based tactics to a much higher tier than they are normally worth.
It's not over, but some re-organization is definitely happening.
Sorry for your friends RL situation, hope it gets better and he can return to Dust in a timely manner.
with regards to Dust/Eve..LuLz.. I do understand being at a disadvantage, but just no-showing? I thought you guys had more pride than that. Kudos to the one guy who showed up and dropped an OB..was funny. Also to the other guy who showed up and got 2 kills while running solo.
Also, you guys have only one FC over there? So the old saying, "the circus doesn't stop because one monkey ran away" doesn't mean anything there it seems. One-trick pony.
The Eve guy posting here. LOL..he really, really, believes he is relevant it seems. No wonder Kane ditched him. I can just imagine what his ego must be like in-game.[/quote]
I refuse to tell anyone to lose money on a fight that has been pre-determined due to lack of competent tankers, even with a number of armchair FC's.
There is pride and there is practicality. When you force people to fight a losing battle, the individuals are the ones who suffer monetarily and take the morale hit. I'm not subjugating anyone to that BS. |
Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
3266
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Posted - 2014.03.15 20:34:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:As Zatara is fond of saying, "Look at what we built in these few short months."
Well look what we destroyed in 2 days.
Absolutely nothing. You've destroyed nothing.
We will outlast you. |
Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
3275
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Posted - 2014.03.16 00:19:00 -
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Crimson Moon V wrote:I'm sorry but FA and STB are trash and do not deserve to hold anything in pc. With RA and N-F working together there is a new era in PC. You have to actually be good to hold land in PC. Sorry zatara.
RND has my respect tbqh.
Pretty ****** meta right there tbqh. |
Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
3275
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Posted - 2014.03.16 00:27:00 -
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Pretty obvious meta to try and get RND because you couldn't get FA, despite months of flirting. You're looking for anyone who's competent because FA will have no part in NF, and because the moment RA turns on you you're going to have your back to the wall under a flood of clone attacks you will never be able to squeeze any attacks out from.
Face it, you cornered yourself from your greed and now you're boned. RA can, and will, turn on you. And we're not going to help you out when they do. You're done. Turn in your clown nose and squeeky shoes, you're fired. |
Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
3278
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Posted - 2014.03.16 00:49:00 -
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Meta bores me.
Can't we just kill everyone? |
Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
3281
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Posted - 2014.03.16 01:58:00 -
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Dr PepperPoP wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote: You're looking for anyone who's competent because FA will have no part in NF
Funny, I believe FA's application to NF was rejected several times. If you saw anything more then an opinion from Crimson then it goes to show how sensitive FA is over RND's relationship with NF. Alright guys, don't compliment RND anymore. It's considered 'meta' now. Lol
I control the sending of applications.
You need to learn to lie better. |
Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
3281
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Posted - 2014.03.16 03:25:00 -
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Dr PepperPoP wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Dr PepperPoP wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote: You're looking for anyone who's competent because FA will have no part in NF
Funny, I believe FA's application to NF was rejected several times. If you saw anything more then an opinion from Crimson then it goes to show how sensitive FA is over RND's relationship with NF. Alright guys, don't compliment RND anymore. It's considered 'meta' now. Lol I control the sending of applications. You need to learn to lie better. So then you deny FA ever made any application or moves to join NF? I can't go into my Skype right now and pull up logs with Z asking to join NF, urging me to push for it to happen, and discussing it with me, kane, and cubs? Sounds like someones is lying alright, but it isn't me or you.
No, it'd be you.
The statement made by you was that application(s) were being rejected. No application was ever sent, however. That is called a lie.
This is because it had been discussed briefly, and shut down. Because it was a bad idea. Your alliance offers absolutely nothing that we cannot get from other sources. Public Disorder, and then General Tso's offered a unique relationship with a unique advantage over any other alliance on the field. We made the right call on that.
Now understanding that I am in a position to debunk your claim of applications being sent and rejected, you have changed your argument to "Well Zatara talked about it with us for a while" which is a lot different from us being ready to jump on board and had already applied. It never got that to that stage.
And finally, you are attempting to shift blame to Zatara with this mis-direction in an attempt to brew feelings of distrust within the organization.
I don't really enjoy this kind of meta. Most of it is incredibly transparent and boring. Particularly if you're going to be bad at it. |
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
3284
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Posted - 2014.03.16 13:38:00 -
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Dr PepperPoP wrote: Rather then a long reply let me break this down for you:
There is no system to apply to NF alliance. It's a simple ask and you will receive. Zatara asked, he did not receive. That's as good as an application as you can get. You can deny this point all you want, changes no facts. FA pursued entrance into NF and was told, very simply, no.
Enjoy spinning that however you want. I'm sorry your rank didn't come into play like you wanted it too. But please refrain from calling me a liar when you're simply just a misinformed fool.
There is a system to apply for any alliance. It is the same exact system for any alliance. Applications are an actual in-game thing. Don't tell me I'm a fool when you don't even understand how game mechanics work.
And don't tell me you rejected an application when you weren't even aware of its existence. |
Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
3287
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Posted - 2014.03.16 17:49:00 -
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FA, AE and NF are all playing at a much higher level than the imps of yore ever did.
The playstyle they used was only effective for the time.
The mistake people make is bloating the legend up to be something far different than what the reality was.
Heimdallr, perhaps if you were capable of doing anything other than living in the past this wouldn't make you so entirely butthurt to accept. |
Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
3292
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Posted - 2014.03.16 23:21:00 -
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Dr PepperPoP wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:FA, AE and NF are all playing at a much higher level than the imps of yore ever did.
The playstyle they used was only effective for the time.
The mistake people make is bloating the legend up to be something far different than what the reality was. This comment is absurd. Honestly? You don't believe Imps could keep up with current teams? If you were going to go full ****** you should of warned me, I would of stopped replying. Lol
It doesn't matter if they could or couldn't.
They didn't. And that's a fact. |
Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
3294
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Posted - 2014.03.17 17:08:00 -
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Dr PepperPoP wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Dr PepperPoP wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:FA, AE and NF are all playing at a much higher level than the imps of yore ever did.
The playstyle they used was only effective for the time.
The mistake people make is bloating the legend up to be something far different than what the reality was. This comment is absurd. Honestly? You don't believe Imps could keep up with current teams? If you were going to go full ****** you should of warned me, I would of stopped replying. Lol It doesn't matter if they could or couldn't. They didn't. And that's a fact. That's not a fact. If it was a fact then you could pinpoint the exact date in which the imps left in correspondence with an update. But no such thing occurred. Here's a fact: If we're talking about a team that cannot adapt FA is the perfect example. I've never seen a group of dedicated FOTMers like FA has. Everything from 4 tanks in each PC - to RE spammers on cat walks, to each roof having an RR. "But AE does it first!" Exactly, you're just FOTM followers. If you tried to develop your own counters like Imps did or current NF does you'd fall face flat. You're in no position to judge another corps adaptability when your own is just a bandwagoner from superior corps.
Are you attempting to convince me that Imps did anything original other than simply shoot better? |
Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
3330
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Posted - 2014.03.20 05:53:00 -
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Dr PepperPoP wrote: Are you trying to convince me that your outside looking in view is valid?
Outsider views are not emotionally swayed in this particular instance, so yes. I'd say it is, in fact, more valid than yours. |
Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
3330
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Posted - 2014.03.20 06:17:00 -
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You can tell they really want to win, too.
I mean we're nearly slaughtering 200 clones per game on average.
I think only Nyain San is more reckless than that.
By the way, how are they doing? I hear they are having some Latino troubles |
Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
3332
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Posted - 2014.03.20 06:26:00 -
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Oh I've been keeping track.
Less clones are lost in battles against AE, more clones are lost against NF.
Against NF, there is always an extreme loss of clones. It's been rising on almost every engagement too. |
Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
3332
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Posted - 2014.03.20 06:45:00 -
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I'm not one for fancy formulas, but I can give you an idea... up until this week AE matches used to float around 140 clones lost on FA side, 160+ lost AE side. As seen tonight and the last couple days, thats been rising. For NF, its a more extreme average.
When you put that many heavies into a match, you're destined to meat grind. Whether its your side or theirs, someone is going to die. There is no disengagement happening in a heavy versus heavy thunderdome.
NF loves to spam heavies, to which the counter is more heavies. It's destined bloodshed. |
Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
4417
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Posted - 2014.06.12 18:39:00 -
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So is the spam, apparently.
Also, confirming Kane got outlasted. |
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