DUST Search - I HATE WHAT CCP DID WITH THE AMARR SCOUT!

Asher Night wrote:

Summ Dude wrote:

I think you might be misunderstanding a few things Asher. While I can see the merit of the "wait and see" approach, that doesn't mean you can't compare existing numbers side by side. Look at all of the racial Scout bonuses. In addition to being by far the most uninteresting bonus (in my opinion at least) , the Amarr Scout's bonus is also simply less overall beneficial than the others. As has been pointed out many times already, when maxed out, the Amarr Scout's bonus is equal to less than a Militia Cardiac Regulator. Nothing about that really encourages me to spec into this suit. Not to mention that it's the only Scout that really only gets one bonus, while the others get two.

As for it's extra HP, yes, it has that. Because it's an Amarr suit. Same reason it's the slowest, with the highest stamina, and more armor than shields. These are all traits of all Amarr suits, and are already balanced against the other suits' racial conventions, as is the norm. This is in no way an acceptable excuse for the subpar bonus. Hopefully that all made sense.

That does make sense, but at the same time, though it might not be as scouty as others, maybe it doesn't need to be? The amarr scout can easily be closer to the fight than other scouts, and has the stamina to keep flanking, plus it's a scout, so it won't be noticed as easily. The HP boost might not look like much but I can't tell you how many times I almost killed an enemy but got taken out right as his HP was at 0/0 (literally, and he still kills me and lives) or close to it. If I had the HP of an A-scout, I would have lived.

How many people in this topic think the A-Scout will suck and actually play as scouts right now? You all talk as if you have never even rolled a scout, whereas I myself have only played this game as a scout, except for a handful of experimental battles with militia armors.

While there is no better place to be wealthy than the Gallente Federation, there is no hell worse for the poor either.


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Magnus Amadeuss Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 537	Posted - 2014.03.16 03:17:00 - [1] - Quote You guys are just ********. #1) at no point will the amarr scout be anyone to any objective, point, or distance. The minmatar suit will badly beat the amarr, yes this is with the amarr suit at lvl 5. #2) the amarr has 30 ehp, for this it is the slowest scout suit (slower than an assault), meaning it has no ability to strafe/jump/sprint... you know, scoutty type things. #3) The amarr scout has the 2nd least amount of CPU, and the 2nd most PG, on suits that are traditionally CPU limited (esp with that CPU hog cloak). #4) There is quite literally nothing that another scout suit cannot do better than the amarr. Even as a HP tank, the gallente will be a better choice due to the 3 hp/sec armor HP. There you have it, it is HANDS DOWN the worst scout suit in the game. IT is without a doubt the worst racial varient of any suit in the game. While there is no better place to be wealthy than the Gallente Federation, there is no hell worse for the poor either.
Magnus Amadeuss Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 539	Posted - 2014.03.16 05:13:00 - [2] - Quote Actually I am 99% sure that his tears are underage. Observe the adolescent insults, the implications of being a "kid". I am pretty sure he is just a tween or something, so be careful what you say. Also Asher, put your parents on. While there is no better place to be wealthy than the Gallente Federation, there is no hell worse for the poor either.
Magnus Amadeuss Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 540	Posted - 2014.03.16 05:23:00 - [3] - Quote Asher Night wrote: Summ Dude wrote: I think you might be misunderstanding a few things Asher. While I can see the merit of the "wait and see" approach, that doesn't mean you can't compare existing numbers side by side. Look at all of the racial Scout bonuses. In addition to being by far the most uninteresting bonus (in my opinion at least) , the Amarr Scout's bonus is also simply less overall beneficial than the others. As has been pointed out many times already, when maxed out, the Amarr Scout's bonus is equal to less than a Militia Cardiac Regulator. Nothing about that really encourages me to spec into this suit. Not to mention that it's the only Scout that really only gets one bonus, while the others get two. As for it's extra HP, yes, it has that. Because it's an Amarr suit. Same reason it's the slowest, with the highest stamina, and more armor than shields. These are all traits of all Amarr suits, and are already balanced against the other suits' racial conventions, as is the norm. This is in no way an acceptable excuse for the subpar bonus. Hopefully that all made sense. That does make sense, but at the same time, though it might not be as scouty as others, maybe it doesn't need to be? The amarr scout can easily be closer to the fight than other scouts, and has the stamina to keep flanking, plus it's a scout, so it won't be noticed as easily. The HP boost might not look like much but I can't tell you how many times I almost killed an enemy but got taken out right as his HP was at 0/0 (literally, and he still kills me and lives) or close to it. If I had the HP of an A-scout, I would have lived. How many people in this topic think the A-Scout will suck *and actually play as scouts right now?* You all talk as if you have never even rolled a scout, whereas I myself have only played this game as a scout, except for a handful of experimental battles with militia armors. I quite often play as a std gallente scout. I almost always go positive aswell. HEre is the deal, listen up junoir: The stamina bonus is less than useless, it is a slap in the face. I have mathematically shown how it will not even bring the amarr up to the other suits base stats. The 30 hp is also useless. It is 30 HP, the amarr suit gives up 4% speed for it. MAybe if it was 115 hp that would make sense (seeing as that is the speed penalty for the enhanced plates). There is NO JOB AN AMARR CAN DO THAT ANOTHER SUIT CANNOT DO BETTER. This is subjective, it is 100% proven and undeniable. While there is no better place to be wealthy than the Gallente Federation, there is no hell worse for the poor either.
Magnus Amadeuss Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 540	Posted - 2014.03.16 05:42:00 - [4] - Quote Summ Dude wrote: Magnus Amadeuss wrote: This is subjective, it is 100% proven and undeniable. [whispers] I think you mean "objective"... Thanks for spotting that, I need to start proof-reading. While there is no better place to be wealthy than the Gallente Federation, there is no hell worse for the poor either.