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RedPencil DUST University Ivy League 0	Posted - 2014.03.14 19:38:00 - [1] - Quote From the Develop blog "EQUIPMENT BALANCING IN UPRISING 1.8" Please reconsidering the cloak feature. "You do not decloak when hacking an objective or vehicle" is a bad idea. This feature will create a scout run around the map and activate cloak to hacking and manipulate the WP. CCP should knows this fact already because in EVE, people can not interact with any structure with cloaking. So why CCP do this in DUST? At lease give us a proper answer to clear this.
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1968	Posted - 2014.03.14 20:02:00 - [2] - Quote When you hack an objective that thing blinks like the police behind you after going 300 in a 50 zone. And there's only so much room the scout could be in. Aim and fire a magazine in the direction -> profit? Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
Funkmaster Whale 0uter.Heaven 1496	Posted - 2014.03.14 20:11:00 - [3] - Quote It'll definitely make speed hacking minjas an important role on the battlefield. Think about it: Minmattar Scout fitted with cloak, hacking, and biotic modules, runs around map invisible, hacks point in 2-3 seconds, invis again, onto next point! Gonna be pretty sick actually. Let me play you the song of my people!
Isa Lucifer Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 17	Posted - 2014.03.14 20:39:00 - [4] - Quote Will most probably see it in action before casting my vote on this subject. But it is something CCP will see how it develops, hopefully. Amarr Victor
lAssassinl Zer0 Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 4	Posted - 2014.03.14 21:14:00 - [5] - Quote RedPencil wrote: From the Develop blog "EQUIPMENT BALANCING IN UPRISING 1.8" Please reconsidering the cloak feature. "You do not decloak when hacking an objective or vehicle" is a bad idea. This feature will create a scout run around the map and activate cloak to hacking and manipulate the WP. CCP should knows this fact already because in EVE, people can not interact with any structure with cloaking. So why CCP do this in DUST? At lease give us a proper answer to clear this. When something is hacked, it's told, be aware and everything will be alright.
BLACK MASK D The Exemplars Top Men. 36	Posted - 2014.03.14 21:20:00 - [6] - Quote RedPencil wrote: From the Develop blog "EQUIPMENT BALANCING IN UPRISING 1.8" Please reconsidering the cloak feature. "You do not decloak when hacking an objective or vehicle" is a bad idea. This feature will create a scout run around the map and activate cloak to hacking and manipulate the WP. CCP should knows this fact already because in EVE, people can not interact with any structure with cloaking. So why CCP do this in DUST? At lease give us a proper answer to clear this. because when you hack an objective the ai tells everyone its being hacked the letter flashes and it changes colour so it really dosent matter how stealthy u are once u start to hack everybody knows
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 445	Posted - 2014.03.14 21:21:00 - [7] - Quote lAssassinl Zer0 wrote: RedPencil wrote: From the Develop blog "EQUIPMENT BALANCING IN UPRISING 1.8" Please reconsidering the cloak feature. "You do not decloak when hacking an objective or vehicle" is a bad idea. This feature will create a scout run around the map and activate cloak to hacking and manipulate the WP. CCP should knows this fact already because in EVE, people can not interact with any structure with cloaking. So why CCP do this in DUST? At lease give us a proper answer to clear this. When something is hacked, it's told, be aware and everything will be alright. Agree here, if somebody hacking CRU i hear it. Same story with points. Support - Tactician/Support Deteis - Orator/Logician BHD since MAG
BLACK MASK D The Exemplars Top Men. 36	Posted - 2014.03.14 21:23:00 - [8] - Quote Sam Tektzby wrote: lAssassinl Zer0 wrote: RedPencil wrote: From the Develop blog "EQUIPMENT BALANCING IN UPRISING 1.8" Please reconsidering the cloak feature. "You do not decloak when hacking an objective or vehicle" is a bad idea. This feature will create a scout run around the map and activate cloak to hacking and manipulate the WP. CCP should knows this fact already because in EVE, people can not interact with any structure with cloaking. So why CCP do this in DUST? At lease give us a proper answer to clear this. When something is hacked, it's told, be aware and everything will be alright. Agree here, if somebody hacking CRU i hear it. Same story with points. yeah and it even tells u in clear writing on the top of the screen that ur cru or a letter is being hacked
Doctor Day THE SUPERHEROS 9	Posted - 2014.03.14 21:29:00 - [9] - Quote Invisible swarm launchers? I don't know how to run facepalm epic fail
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 445	Posted - 2014.03.14 21:47:00 - [10] - Quote Doctor Day wrote: Invisible swarm launchers? You cant shooting if you are in cloak. Support - Tactician/Support Deteis - Orator/Logician BHD since MAG

Ghermard-ol Dizeriois Maphia Clan Corporation 187	Posted - 2014.03.14 22:17:00 - [11] - Quote I don't see the problem... the only useful thing could be hacking abandoned vehicles... maybe the LAV used by those Heavies who wander around vaporizing every alone target. If you are an hacker, a cheater o a glitcher, you deserve death. In real life.
deepfried salad gilliam Sanguine Knights 510	Posted - 2014.03.14 23:46:00 - [12] - Quote game - "objective b is being hacked" merc- " but know one is at objective b" game-"enemy is now in control of objective b" merc-* heads to forum"this game is crap im quiting, theres a stupid bug that makes the objectives switch" merc2"nahh someone hacked it" merc-"no one was there" merc2-"did you shout at it" merc-"no" merc2-"then it mustve been a cloaked scout that would have been kill by .3 seconds of spraying with any rifle" merc- "nerf cloak its invisble" module poll stuff for alts
The Infected One Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1045	Posted - 2014.03.14 23:56:00 - [13] - Quote deepfried salad gilliam wrote: game - "objective b is being hacked" merc- " but know one is at objective b" game-"enemy is now in control of objective b" merc-* heads to forum"this game is crap im quiting, theres a stupid bug that makes the objectives switch" merc2"nahh someone hacked it" merc-"no one was there" merc2-"did you shout at it" merc-"no" merc2-"then it mustve been a cloaked scout that would have been kill by .3 seconds of spraying with any rifle" merc- "nerf cloak its invisble" Sad but true. I am here to ask you one question, and one question only: EXPLOSIONS? --. . - + ..-. ..- -.-. -.- . -..
The Black Jackal The Southern Legion League of Infamy 1049	Posted - 2014.03.15 02:57:00 - [14] - Quote deepfried salad gilliam wrote: game - "objective b is being hacked" merc- " but know one is at objective b" game-"enemy is now in control of objective b" merc-* heads to forum"this game is crap im quiting, theres a stupid bug that makes the objectives switch" merc2"nahh someone hacked it" merc-"no one was there" merc2-"did you shout at it" merc-"no" merc2-"then it mustve been a cloaked scout that would have been kill by .3 seconds of spraying with any rifle" merc- "nerf cloak its invisble" Unfortunately there will be more than a few that have this reaction. It will be quite amusing from my point of view. The cloaking while being able to hack is going to be an interesting mechanic, and one that I, at current stage, support. Why? Because the severe limitations otherwise on the cloak needs balances for pluses. Looking at the distortion effects for full sprint movement, you may as well not be cloaked, you also have no weapons without switching off your cloak, and cloaking isn't permanent, you have limited time to cloak, so the ability to cloak is dependant on a lot of factors. This will actually inspire more point guards that actually defend objectives, rather than hack and run off if they're attempting to win. I can see many roles now taking point guard bonuses on board, and the meta will develop accordingly. Once you go Black, you just never go back!
Kigurosaka Laaksonen DUST University Ivy League 634	Posted - 2014.03.15 03:40:00 - [15] - Quote deepfried salad gilliam wrote: merc- "nerf cloak its invisble" DUST 514 Recruit Code - https://dust514.com/recruit/zluCyb/ EVE Buddy Invite - Too damn long. Ask me for it.
ALPHA DECRIPTER Dragon-Empire 825	Posted - 2014.03.15 09:22:00 - [16] - Quote Was gonna fit the cloak on my two hacking fits simply because I don't wanna get shot before I get there. Now you tellin' me I can stay cloaked while hacking too!? [Beep]in' awesome! Scout Tactician Dance puppets, DANCE!
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 225	Posted - 2014.03.15 09:58:00 - [17] - Quote QQing about this is stupid. If the enemy is hacking a turret, good. That means they're wasting time on stupid **. If you can't kill a cloaked enemy hacking an objective at short or even medium range, you're a ***** scrub. bamboo x in 1.8 (Boundless HMG) you bamboo x (Ion or Scrambler Pistol) you bamboo x (Forge Gun or AV nade) your tank
Michael Epic The Neutral Zone 268	Posted - 2014.03.15 14:21:00 - [18] - Quote RedPencil wrote: From the Develop blog "EQUIPMENT BALANCING IN UPRISING 1.8" Please reconsidering the cloak feature. "You do not decloak when hacking an objective or vehicle" is a bad idea. This feature will create a scout run around the map and activate cloak to hacking and manipulate the WP. CCP should knows this fact already because in EVE, people can not interact with any structure with cloaking. So why CCP do this in DUST? At lease give us a proper answer to clear this. Seriously? There is only so much space they could possibly be standing in lol throw a grenade, thukker's detonate on impact, scouts have little health...BAM, problem solved. I say +1 CCP, not decloaking while hacking = good idea.
deepfried salad gilliam Sanguine Knights 516	Posted - 2014.03.15 21:43:00 - [19] - Quote Michael Epic wrote: RedPencil wrote: From the Develop blog "EQUIPMENT BALANCING IN UPRISING 1.8" Please reconsidering the cloak feature. "You do not decloak when hacking an objective or vehicle" is a bad idea. This feature will create a scout run around the map and activate cloak to hacking and manipulate the WP. CCP should knows this fact already because in EVE, people can not interact with any structure with cloaking. So why CCP do this in DUST? At lease give us a proper answer to clear this. Seriously? There is only so much space they could possibly be standing in lol throw a grenade, thukker's detonate on impact, scouts have little health...BAM, problem solved. I say +1 CCP, not decloaking while hacking = good idea. you can kill a scout with an smg without being close or aiming lol module poll stuff for alts
Vell0cet SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1092	Posted - 2014.03.16 02:15:00 - [20] - Quote I'd like to see a few changes to the cloak mechanic: - Hacking decloaks you - Getting shot by the enemy decloaks you with a re-cloaking delay of x secs - You can have a weapon out while cloaked, firing it decloaks you without actually shooting a bullet, there is a brief delay (maybe 1 sec), and then you can shoot, or you can have the cloaking device "use it" to decloak, switch to your weapon and fire with no fire delay. I think those would be reasonable changes. Best PvE idea ever!

ALPHA DECRIPTER Dragon-Empire 836	Posted - 2014.03.16 02:41:00 - [21] - Quote Vell0cet wrote: I'd like to see a few changes to the cloak mechanic: - Hacking decloaks you - Getting shot by the enemy decloaks you with a re-cloaking delay of x secs - You can have a weapon out while cloaked, firing it decloaks you without actually shooting a bullet, there is a brief delay (maybe 1 sec), and then you can shoot, or you can have the cloaking device in your hands, "use it" to decloak, switch to your weapon and fire with no fire delay. You would have either option, and both approaches would be useful in different circumstances. I think those would be reasonable changes. I would accept 1 and 2 if I could effectively shoot while cloaked. "firing it decloaks you without actually shooting a bullet" eh, you lost my vote there. It's not that you said shooting decloaks but that the fire button doesn't actually shoot. Scout Tactician Dance puppets, DANCE!
Exodeon Salviej The Third Day Galactic Skyfleet Empire 63	Posted - 2014.03.16 02:48:00 - [22] - Quote I dunno, it seems like a fun idea, and all honesty...if a beginner doesn't get the idea, as so many other games have used it successfully, then Mrs. Derptastic managed to slap 'em with the herpaderp gun. I mean, come on, usual reaction is to shoot if something weird is going down. All the more reason to shoot first, ask questions later...and go against my signature. Your face is something to shoot, so I will shoot. Don't be offended, I do it to everyone.


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