DUST Search - Thoughts on the Equipment Changes

Michael Arck wrote:

Arx Ardashir wrote:

Cenex Langly wrote:

The first is the "fix" to active scanners and what you call "abuse". Being blind on any battlefield causes serious death. Players who scan and SPIN to try to see what is around them should should not be called abusing the mechanic. Having a screenshot of the field is going to seriously break scanners. Much like reducing the splash damage of the flaylock pistol. No one EVER uses that gun now. And as such, no one will ever use the scanner. The cool down timers were the correct fix, but further reducing the functionality is going to seriously hinder its role. The battlefield is a dynamic place where people constantly move around, taking a snapshot of an ever changing field is just as bad intel as not having any screen shot at all.

No, it was definately bad for the game to have 360 scans that lasted for 15+ seconds, tracking everyone's movement (or non-movement) and to punish flanking manuevers by having someone's crosshairs already trained on your face before you even came around the corner.

As someone else said, this is a scanner fix, and not a nerf. They were never supposed to be 360 scans. They were supposed to take 1-2 seconds to complete the scan and then display all movement in whatever direction you pointed it in. If it was supposed to be 360, then they wouldn't have included the scan angles.

But that was the purpose of the scans though. It's rather silly to have a scanning equipment and you can't spin around to use it. I know this isn't it, but it likes telling Ripley and Hudson they can only snapshot with their tracking equipment in Aliens. You had the capable means to avoid scans at your disposal.

Plus folks wanted these scans. When scans didn't have WP gain attached to it, no one used it. The scannerinas weren't happening. When folks wanted WP gain for killed scan targets and CCP considered, people rallied for it, in which I was strongly against for the possibility of abuse. Well, it happened and now folks want it change. To me, that's kind of silly. Folks need to think beyond one small point to see the whole big picture. So scans will probably be rendered useless again...or maybe not.

These forums must be located in the Californin country side, there is whine as far as the eye can see.


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Beck Weathers Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 768	Posted - 2014.03.14 17:49:00 - [1] - Quote Yolo spinning scanners got to go, if you want more scans bring more scanners. One equipment carried by one person should not light up a 200+ diamiter area of all (none scout) enemy movements almost perminatly if you keep scanning. These forums must be located in the Californin country side, there is whine as far as the eye can see.
Beck Weathers Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 772	Posted - 2014.03.14 19:02:00 - [2] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Arx Ardashir wrote: Cenex Langly wrote: The first is the "fix" to active scanners and what you call "abuse". Being blind on any battlefield causes serious death. Players who scan and SPIN to try to see what is around them should should not be called abusing the mechanic. Having a screenshot of the field is going to seriously break scanners. Much like reducing the splash damage of the flaylock pistol. No one EVER uses that gun now. And as such, no one will ever use the scanner. The cool down timers were the correct fix, but further reducing the functionality is going to seriously hinder its role. The battlefield is a dynamic place where people constantly move around, taking a snapshot of an ever changing field is just as bad intel as not having any screen shot at all. No, it was definately bad for the game to have 360 scans that lasted for 15+ seconds, tracking everyone's movement (or non-movement) and to punish flanking manuevers by having someone's crosshairs already trained on your face before you even came around the corner. As someone else said, this is a scanner fix, and not a nerf. They were never supposed to be 360 scans. They were supposed to take 1-2 seconds to complete the scan and then display all movement in whatever direction you pointed it in. If it was supposed to be 360, then they wouldn't have included the scan angles. But that was the purpose of the scans though. It's rather silly to have a scanning equipment and you can't spin around to use it. I know this isn't it, but it likes telling Ripley and Hudson they can only snapshot with their tracking equipment in Aliens. You had the capable means to avoid scans at your disposal. Plus folks wanted these scans. When scans didn't have WP gain attached to it, no one used it. The scannerinas weren't happening. When folks wanted WP gain for killed scan targets and CCP considered, people rallied for it, in which I was strongly against for the possibility of abuse. Well, it happened and now folks want it change. To me, that's kind of silly. Folks need to think beyond one small point to see the whole big picture. So scans will probably be rendered useless again...or maybe not. I want you to take one moment, and i mean one moment to think about why scanners have scan angles. What is the point of having a 60 degree scan angle if you can spin with it? why did CCP not just design it to have a 360 scan? because it was never meant to give scans 360! If you WANT a scan in all directions, wait of your cool down and scan again in a diferant direction. These forums must be located in the Californin country side, there is whine as far as the eye can see.