DUST Search - Guerilla Warfare in Public Skirmishes

Roy Ventus wrote:

Beren Hurin wrote:

A million times this!!!

People are so focused on KDR that they don't realize that the real game is about dominating objectives not clones. Once we have to pay 120mill isk for the MCCs we lose in PC it will change the fundamentals of the game.

Basically, you can take advantage of an objective in only 2 ways:

They could have a full squad or more at that objective defending it. You are successful if you can force them to expend clones vs. your losses at around > 2.5:1 K/D rate vs. the assaulting squad.

I'd say there's actually three basic ways to take strategic advantage of objectives in Skirmish, with of course advanced forms of these basic methods.

Staging - Using objective spawn points and installations to stage attacks on other objectives.
Baiting - Using the objective to manipulate the enemy.
Defending - Using the objective as a protected point to slow the enemy down.

Staging could be said to be the purely offensive method, with defending being the obviously defensive method, and baiting being the versatile method.


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Beren Hurin Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 2213	Posted - 2014.03.14 13:48:00 - [1] - Quote A million times this!!! People are so focused on KDR that they don't realize that the real game is about dominating objectives not clones. Once we have to pay 120mill isk for the MCCs we lose in PC it will change the fundamentals of the game. Basically, you can take advantage of an objective in only 2 ways: They could have a full squad or more at that objective defending it. You are successful if you can force them to expend clones vs. your losses at around > 2.5:1 K/D rate vs. the assaulting squad.
Beren Hurin Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 2213	Posted - 2014.03.14 13:58:00 - [2] - Quote This IS a real difficult thing for new players to get though. They spend a few weeks figuring out fitting and the gun game. Then there is getting the feel/understanding of maps and map flow. Only then can they get to the point where they can see when and what needs to be attacked.
Beren Hurin Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 2215	Posted - 2014.03.14 14:23:00 - [3] - Quote Roy Ventus wrote: Beren Hurin wrote: A million times this!!! People are so focused on KDR that they don't realize that the real game is about dominating objectives not clones. Once we have to pay 120mill isk for the MCCs we lose in PC it will change the fundamentals of the game. Basically, you can take advantage of an objective in only 2 ways: They could have a full squad or more at that objective defending it. You are successful if you can force them to expend clones vs. your losses at around > 2.5:1 K/D rate vs. the assaulting squad. I'd say there's actually three basic ways to take strategic advantage of objectives in Skirmish, with of course advanced forms of these basic methods. Staging - Using objective spawn points and installations to stage attacks on other objectives. Baiting - Using the objective to manipulate the enemy. Defending - Using the objective as a protected point to slow the enemy down. Staging could be said to be the purely offensive method, with defending being the obviously defensive method, and baiting being the versatile method. Yeah I like using nomenclature like this to classify strategies. I think 'baiting' needs more clarity because it can be pretty broad. I think a really specific form of 'baiting' could be called 'siegeing' Where you basically turn a defense against an enemy. The point isn't to capture the objective, but force them to either give it up, or just farm kills from their commitment to defend. Its much easier to siege open points rather than closed points. You can tell a committed defense by the amount of equipment, logis, and heavies present. I still like the 'baiting' term and it could fall under the tactic of giving up a point to draw out a larger squad in order to orbital all of them in order to enable a stronger counter-attack.
Beren Hurin Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 2215	Posted - 2014.03.14 14:53:00 - [4] - Quote Roy Ventus wrote: Soldner VonKuechle wrote: How else would you play buffer tanked Caldari if its not guerrilla? It's like, game design or something. But blueberries are dumb. ? Caldari are actually prone to siege warfare. Long range, good mobility, solid DPS, but suck at CQC. Also fits with their "essence," seeing how the Caldari government doesn't like using more resources than they need to, thus they would more than likely try to make their enemies run outta resources first. Minmatar are the ones who would be better off using guerilla warfare. Fastest racial suits, cheap and low fitting-cost gear, capable of dual-tanking, and are the best at hacking. They get in and get out real fast if they need to and can do it better than most. Far as lore wise, they would be best for it too and I'm more than sure their history has shown that they prefer Guerilla Warfare the most as well. Yeah. This is the essence of Minmatar EWAR of target painters and webs. They basically make it so no matter where you are, we will find you and hit you hard, up close if we want, far away if we want, but you pretty much have to hold on REALLY tight if you want to back us into a corner to kill us.