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Charlotte O'Dell
Sooper Speshul Ponee Fors
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Posted - 2014.03.13 05:32:00 -
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hey. i've got cores maxed, shield (allmods) maxed, armor maxed (only plates for modules), damage amps max, and smg op4/prof0, RR 5/1, MD 5/3, CR 5/1, SR 1/0, nanocirc5, uplinks3, repair tool 1, active scanners 4, biotics 1, cardiac regs 5....and tank stuff too, but that's irrelevant.
I don't know what suit to use. i bought an omega booster so by the drop of 1.8, ill have a more than 5 million UA SP (2 mil from event, plus callogi 5, calmed3, and calassault4 refunded)..i think anyway...enough to spec at least a coupe protosuits.
i don't know what to use it on, though.
i have 1 caldari weapon and 3 minmitar weapon (im caldari at heart tho). I want something to complement my tanks so i dont need a heavy or sniper....really im lost. hahaha.
it comes down to these suits in my mind: caldari logi and mass driver combo, minmitar assault for CR and MD bonus, cal assault for my OP shields and RR, cal scout bc i like the scan range and precision buff...actually yeah, that's it. If i go scout, i have to get a cloak, though (1.25 mil SP or something?)
So what should i go with? I have 3 minmitar weapons so a minnie assault seems like a good choice, but i have tons of shield modules so maybe caldari is better. min scout is my alt so that's a nono.
but i feel like with so much proto equipment i should have a logi...ugh. but min logi is pointless if i have nanocirc 5!
im really bending towards min assault and cal scout, now. Help me out, guys. I'm a noob.
Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
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Lunatic Kota
TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.03.13 05:34:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:hey. i've got cores maxed, shield (allmods) maxed, armor maxed (only plates for modules), damage amps max, and smg op4/prof0, RR 5/1, MD 5/3, CR 5/1, SR 1/0, nanocirc5, uplinks3, repair tool 1, active scanners 4, biotics 1, cardiac regs 5....and tank stuff too, but that's irrelevant.
I don't know what suit to use. i bought an omega booster so by the drop of 1.8, ill have a more than 5 million UA SP (2 mil from event, plus callogi 5, calmed3, and calassault4 refunded)..i think anyway...enough to spec at least a coupe protosuits.
i don't know what to use it on, though.
i have 1 caldari weapon and 3 minmitar weapon (im caldari at heart tho). I want something to complement my tanks so i dont need a heavy or sniper....really im lost. hahaha.
it comes down to these suits in my mind: caldari logi and mass driver combo, minmitar assault for CR and MD bonus, cal assault for my OP shields and RR, cal scout bc i like the scan range and precision buff...actually yeah, that's it. If i go scout, i have to get a cloak, though (1.25 mil SP or something?)
So what should i go with? I have 3 minmitar weapons so a minnie assault seems like a good choice, but i have tons of shield modules so maybe caldari is better. min scout is my alt so that's a nono.
but i feel like with so much proto equipment i should have a logi...ugh. but min logi is pointless if i have nanocirc 5!
im really bending towards min assault and cal scout, now. Help me out, guys. I'm a noob.
Trololololololololol
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LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.03.13 05:36:00 -
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Minmatar Basic Light Frame |
Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.03.13 06:01:00 -
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Do not spec into caldari assault.
Minmatar assault or caldari scout. Or even gallente scout with CR, it will probably be great.
Drop it like its hat.
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Henrietta Unknown
Sooper Speshul Ponee Fors
32
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Posted - 2014.03.13 06:09:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:Do not spec into caldari assault.
Minmatar assault or caldari scout. Or even gallente scout with CR, it will probably be great. Damn. Level 2 Caldari Assault here. Lvl 1 C-logi. |
Cotsy8
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
42
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Posted - 2014.03.13 06:20:00 -
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I don't know if you're kidding. There are so so many great forum posts about how to skill properly.
What you need to decide is what play style you prefer, if you want to be fast and a scout the Cal scout is the way to go. If you prefer an assault or light assault versatile role then the Amarr Scout. The assault suits are useless, so I wouldn't suggest them.
With 6m SP you should be able to set up your player perfectly. The first thing you need to do is spec into a prototype (level 5) suit, whichever you grab doesn't matter Cal Scout. Amarr Scout or if you want more HP try Gal or Cal sentinel (heavy).
After you get your suit to level 5, you want to grab level 5 of the weapon of your choice. The Combat Rifle or the Rail Rifle are the best choices, pick one and level it to 5. Once you have the right suit and primary weapon its 1/3 of the battle.
It's about 3m for a suit and 3m for a weapon. So thats 6m. With the event this weekend that will be at least another 750k. With that you want to get into suit upgrades. Grab lv1 of each shield extenders, armor, CPU increase, PG increase, CPU/PG increase, and armor/sheild base. At level 1 these won't give you much but its much easier to build a character this way IMO.
Once the suit and weapons are chosen, you can slowly work on upgrading the CPU/PG to fit better shield and armor mods. The idea is to get a weapon that makes you competitive and can actually kill someone, while getting the suit (at Proto but run adv suits cuz its cheaper) to build around. There's nothing wrong with running a cal suit with 3 shield extenders and 2 armor mods with a Rail rifle. The idea is to keep yourself alive long enough to do some damage.
The best advice I can give you gameplay wise, try to follow someone. Its hard for a noob to gun down someone alone, so in a pair it makes things easier. You might not get kills right away but its points and help you will need. Check out forums, lots and lots of ways to build a char. My way, get best suit and weapon and slowly work in everything else. It's too much not to max out a rail rifle right away cuz playing catch up isn't fun. |
Henrietta Unknown
Sooper Speshul Ponee Fors
32
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Posted - 2014.03.13 06:24:00 -
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Really? Cuz I maxed out shield and armor upgrades. They're #1 priority for keeping ANY suit alive.
Everything comes after. |
Cotsy8
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
42
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Posted - 2014.03.13 06:39:00 -
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Henrietta Unknown wrote:Really? Cuz I maxed out shield and armor upgrades. They're #1 priority for keeping ANY suit alive.
Everything comes after.
Thats fine, there will be a re-spec n march 25th.
I suggest you put your 6m SP into a proto suit and a prototype weapon and use the bonus SP you get this weekend (10 matches must be played to qualify - maybe get 750k-1m free SP) and use that SP to get into drop suit skills.
It's okay, trust me many players don't agree how to properly build a character. But the two hardest things and the two most important things are to have the best suit and weapon possible and then work within that framework. You can spend 75k SP and get lv1 armor and shield extender and that alone makes you viable. Sure, at 6-7m SP you can't be expected to own. Ur who cares the idea is to be competitive and getting the best weapon does that.
Rail Rifles are a little easier to use than Combat Rifles. Here two options: A scout Amar suit at advanced with basic x2 shield extenders and basic x3 armor mods is 600-642 total armor + shields (called eHP). This makes you competitive at an advanced fitting, your weapon makes it possible for you to excel so you're fine. With the same build a cal scout at advance is 490-505 eHP. Its much less but this class allow you to view many of your enemies on the mini map giving up an advantage. Both are good strong options for a player thst has limited SP. |
Rusty Shallows
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Posted - 2014.03.13 06:42:00 -
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Looks solid for your Caldari Logi with a Mass Driver. The nano-hive boosts from the Frame will help keep any area well saturated with explosions. The uplinks from your second EQ will keep the squad slayers in the fight, that is if your squad runs tight. Best of all having fallback hit-scan weapon fits if the enemy is muscling in and the AoE option goes south.
If you run in loose squads or solo rethink Logi work. My best fun doing that was in Chromsome, I could run solo in any game mode and still be useful to the team. Something about Uprising has cursed the class, currently too much scanning and uplink spam for my tastes.
Seeing that list though the first though was Winmatar Commando. Frame damage boosts (this is a CCP game and DPS matters big), good AoE + solid hit-scan on the same Frame, and the bonus option to get the Sentinels which have the most gorgeous slot layout of the Advanced Sentinel Frames. So your instincts are on target again with that.
Here, have some candy and a Like. :-)
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Cotsy8
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
42
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Posted - 2014.03.13 06:52:00 -
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Henrietta Unknown wrote:Really? Cuz I maxed out shield and armor upgrades. They're #1 priority for keeping ANY suit alive.
Everything comes after.
It understand what you are saying, yes drop suit cores skills are extremely important. Yes, I'm not some elite player who can give you exactly what you should spec into (there are some good ones on forums) but what I am saying in order to be competitive you need to max out a weapon (like rail rifle) in order to do any damage output. It will cost about 3m SP to make your weapon competitive but what's the point of carrying a weapon that can't kill.
Secondly, i feel that getting a suit is the second most important. Pick a suit that fits the role you want to play. Like I said, Amarr scout suit is a good option of light assault. Small hit box, fast, has good stamina, has a lower profile than assault class... Same build type (high eHP) can be applied to the Cal scout suit as well. Getting 500-600 eHP on a fast moving, small box box that can pump put lv5 rail rifle damage is what you need,to be competitive. The drop off from weapons and suits is more than that of armor and shields for the SP.
People will tell you save your SP and get a lv3 suit and not a lv5 prototype suit, and use that 1M SP to get better core suit skills and frankly they might be right. But IMO to be competitive you can slowly build your core skills from lv1 to 3 but if you cannot dish out damage its all useless. I know scouts have the same shield and armor at std adv and pro but if I were you and I was you after open beta I used my 7m SP to max a weapon and a suit both to lv5. So i have been in this position before, I've been the guy asking for help and I have found this way to be the best. |
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ALPHA DECRIPTER
Dragon-Empire
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Posted - 2014.03.13 06:59:00 -
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Henrietta Unknown wrote:Really? Cuz I maxed out shield and armor upgrades. They're #1 priority for keeping ANY suit alive.
Everything comes after.
Although important (anyone that disagrees is an idiot) I wouldn't say "ANY suit". I rely more on my low profile to out perform against anyone. Combine that with passive scans and I tend to make protos pee there pants with my STD shotty fit(I have no skills in SG at all).
As for mid and heavy frames I have no expertise and so cannot comment.
If you feel that your tank is truly your most important stat then I would suggest you avoid the scout suits (or go with the Amarr scout if you just gotta go there)
Scout Tactician
Dance puppets, DANCE!
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Vitharr Foebane
Living Like Larry Schwag
742
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Posted - 2014.03.13 07:00:00 -
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Amarr lights need some love :3
Thanks CCP for making the HMG Heavy viable again :3
That's no excuse to slack off on releasing a heavy laser though =.=
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Henrietta Unknown
Sooper Speshul Ponee Fors
32
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Posted - 2014.03.13 07:04:00 -
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ALPHA DECRIPTER wrote:Henrietta Unknown wrote:Really? Cuz I maxed out shield and armor upgrades. They're #1 priority for keeping ANY suit alive.
Everything comes after. Although important (anyone that disagrees is an idiot) I wouldn't say "ANY suit". I rely more on my low profile to out perform against anyone. Combine that with passive scans and I tend to make protos pee there pants with my STD shotty fit(I have no skills in SG at all). As for mid and heavy frames I have no expertise and so cannot comment. If you feel that your tank is truly your most important stat then I would suggest you avoid the scout suits (or go with the Amarr scout if you just gotta go there) Funny. I run a Gal scout alt with max armor and profile dampening. I tend to experiment with both worlds. |
Lunatic Kota
TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback
35
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Posted - 2014.03.13 07:07:00 -
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you all, have been trolled so hard. Pretty sure Char is over 30 mil SP.
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Henrietta Unknown
Sooper Speshul Ponee Fors
32
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Posted - 2014.03.13 07:13:00 -
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Lunatic Kota wrote:you all, have been trolled so hard. Pretty sure Char is over 30 mil SP. Lifetime SP or just egotistical vet with tons of savings from RR/Tank scrubbery?
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Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1398
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Posted - 2014.03.13 07:46:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:hey. i've got cores maxed, shield (allmods) maxed, armor maxed (only plates for modules), damage amps max, and smg op4/prof0, RR 5/1, MD 5/3, CR 5/1, SR 1/0, nanocirc5, uplinks3, repair tool 1, active scanners 4, biotics 1, cardiac regs 5....and tank stuff too, but that's irrelevant.
I don't know what suit to use. i bought an omega booster so by the drop of 1.8, ill have a more than 5 million UA SP (2 mil from event, plus callogi 5, calmed3, and calassault4 refunded)..i think anyway...enough to spec at least a coupe protosuits.
i don't know what to use it on, though.
i have 1 caldari weapon and 3 minmitar weapon (im caldari at heart tho). I want something to complement my tanks so i dont need a heavy or sniper....really im lost. hahaha.
it comes down to these suits in my mind: caldari logi and mass driver combo, minmitar assault for CR and MD bonus, cal assault for my OP shields and RR, cal scout bc i like the scan range and precision buff...actually yeah, that's it. If i go scout, i have to get a cloak, though (1.25 mil SP or something?)
So what should i go with? I have 3 minmitar weapons so a minnie assault seems like a good choice, but i have tons of shield modules so maybe caldari is better. min scout is my alt so that's a nono.
but i feel like with so much proto equipment i should have a logi...ugh. but min logi is pointless if i have nanocirc 5!
im really bending towards min assault and cal scout, now. Help me out, guys. I'm a noob.
You can not have cardio at 5 when biotics are at 1 But perhaps I am wrong?
Pardon me but perhaps get Biotics to 5...why? passive equals a free cardio. Cardio to 5 ...why? better performance when sprinting.
Hey CCP get a PS4 client
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CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
191
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Posted - 2014.03.13 12:30:00 -
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Lunatic Kota wrote:you all, have been trolled so hard. Pretty sure Char is over 30 mil SP. Whats even better is the locking corp alt.
The clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy"s will to be imposed upon him. Sun Tzu
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BL4CKST4R
WarRavens League of Infamy
2031
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Posted - 2014.03.13 12:32:00 -
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I'm going Gallente scout, I fear that dropsuit changes are not done so any other suit is way to volatile for me.
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SILVERBACK 02
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
576
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Posted - 2014.03.13 12:36:00 -
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i have maxed out RR so..
il be going CK.O SENTinel or COMmando depending on which one looks better.. might go basic proto if its all BLACK n red eyes.
im not a fan of the red n gold ot the sentinel green doesnt look tactical... this is new eden not the telly tubbies
"just a heavy scrub with a rail rifle"
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Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
1527
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Posted - 2014.03.13 12:36:00 -
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Once you go scout, you won't oped out. Or some such thing.
Dammit, is anybody sticking to Gal scout? Cal is going to be such a FOTM.
Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!
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Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1956
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Posted - 2014.03.13 12:42:00 -
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Cotsy8 wrote:I don't know if you're kidding. There are so so many great forum posts about how to skill properly.
What you need to decide is what play style you prefer, if you want to be fast and a scout the Cal scout is the way to go. If you prefer an assault or light assault versatile role then the Amarr Scout. The assault suits are useless, so I wouldn't suggest them.
With 6m SP you should be able to set up your player perfectly. The first thing you need to do is spec into a prototype (level 5) suit, whichever you grab doesn't matter Cal Scout. Amarr Scout or if you want more HP try Gal or Cal sentinel (heavy).
After you get your suit to level 5, you want to grab level 5 of the weapon of your choice. The Combat Rifle or the Rail Rifle are the best choices, pick one and level it to 5. Once you have the right suit and primary weapon its 1/3 of the battle.
It's about 3m for a suit and 3m for a weapon. So thats 6m. With the event this weekend that will be at least another 750k. With that you want to get into suit upgrades. Grab lv1 of each shield extenders, armor, CPU increase, PG increase, CPU/PG increase, and armor/sheild base. At level 1 these won't give you much but its much easier to build a character this way IMO.
Once the suit and weapons are chosen, you can slowly work on upgrading the CPU/PG to fit better shield and armor mods. The idea is to get a weapon that makes you competitive and can actually kill someone, while getting the suit (at Proto but run adv suits cuz its cheaper) to build around. There's nothing wrong with running a cal suit with 3 shield extenders and 2 armor mods with a Rail rifle. The idea is to keep yourself alive long enough to do some damage.
The best advice I can give you gameplay wise, try to follow someone. Its hard for a noob to gun down someone alone, so in a pair it makes things easier. You might not get kills right away but its points and help you will need. Check out forums, lots and lots of ways to build a char. My way, get best suit and weapon and slowly work in everything else. It's too much not to max out a rail rifle right away cuz playing catch up isn't fun.
You have it completely mixed up. FIRST you get armor and shield upgrades, then you go for a better suit and then for a weapon.
A Proto Suit without armor and shield modules to use is useless and in no way better than a Std suit. A Std suit with decent mods is more useful than a proto suit without any.
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NAV HIV
The Generals General Tso's Alliance
1122
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Posted - 2014.03.13 13:06:00 -
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Pick one of the Heavy Frames and Use Light weapons with it like most others would :@ |
Charlotte O'Dell
Sooper Speshul Ponee Fors
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Posted - 2014.03.13 18:46:00 -
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After reading your comments, I've decided that a minmitar assault and Caldari logi would be the best way to utilize my minmitar weapons. Thenwith all my equipment, not having a logi would be stupid, plus the NH bonus helps my MD spamming.
Finally, a Caldari scout suit to best utilize my rail rifle as a skirmisher BC I'll get the cloak to them invisible when or if I have the SP left.
Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
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Nocturnal Soul
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
2247
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Posted - 2014.03.13 18:49:00 -
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Caldari Heavy
Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
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