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LAVALLOIS Nash
QcGOLD
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Posted - 2014.03.13 16:34:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:
12 man Q-sync: Requires 12 men
Tank: Requires 1 man
Seems legit.
Also, you forgot to mention how the tank is invulnerable to small arms fire.
IT IS OP, just that the Rail is even more OP.
12 Av nades against a tank. 12 forge guns against a tank. Or even 6 proto AV nades against a tank. Or 6 people with 3 proto proximity explosives each.
Even if i was out on foot, they would still face me as a group. So the numbers a irrelevant. Its not like they would sit around waiting their turn while I fought them 1vs1.
And what would you consider small arms fire? I have killed/lost more tanks due to infantry AV then I killed/lost tanks to enemy heavy turrets. Does the forge guns count? Cause those things pack a serious punch.
Onesimus Tarsus wrote:
I wish that tankers would just admit how afraid they are to meet infantry on an equal footing and leave it at that.
Afraid? What fear is there to be had in a video game? Has everything to do with costs. Tanks can rack up WP pretty fast and can reduce the amount of clones lost, therefore increasing profit. |
Derpty Derp
It's All Gone Derp
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Posted - 2014.03.14 23:33:00 -
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LAVALLOIS Nash wrote:Does the forge guns count? Cause those things pack a serious punch.
At least the forge gun has a charge time for it's damage, not that screwy I've charged my 2 second shot now I get to spam it twice every second with 0 recoil.
8213 wrote:
Despite what Judge says, a rail gun can't lock down an entire map. Its only 5 shots he has to pop you. Being in a situation where a RG from 200-500m away got that good of an open shot on you is your mistake.
Clearly you aren't a pilot then, because if you were then you'd know barely any of the maps have anything you can really hide behind, most of which are so low that you might as well recall and go in on foot, or heck just grab a tank since it's so much more powerful & tanky & speedy & accurate & **** easy to use...
As someone who's started using these tanks to kill other tanks, all I can say is you can easily lock down half the map from the red zone... If I move to the other side of the map (along the edge where it's nice and safe, because no one comes to bother you) then you've got the whole map secured for your team as no one can call anything in.
& yes the turret is **** easy to use, no matter how fast something is moving you can just offset the turrets slow turn speed by turning your damn tank around with it... Even at max range the **** is an easy kill, so don't throw this bullshit around that it's my fault if I get shot down by this crap, I should have been out of it's sight, well the only way to be out of it's sight is to recall and not bother! |
SgtDoughnut
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.03.14 23:52:00 -
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So lets see here
1) tank players think they should be 100% untouchable by infantry
2) tank players whine until they get exactly what they want
3) said scrubs (if you need meter thick armor plates to make up for your lack of gun game your a scrub) start to farm infantry with blasters
4) someone discovers a militia fit rail tank is the best weapon to counter tanks (remember tankers you wanted this, the counter for a tank should be another tank)
I don't see tanker's problem here, you wanted tanks to be the only viable method of killing tanks, well rail tanks with damage mods are the only viable way of killing tanks, so you got what you wanted. |
Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.14 23:57:00 -
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SgtDoughnut wrote:So lets see here
1) tank players think they should be 100% untouchable by infantry
2) tank players whine until they get exactly what they want
3) said scrubs (if you need meter thick armor plates to make up for your lack of gun game your a scrub) start to farm infantry with blasters
4) someone discovers a militia fit rail tank is the best weapon to counter tanks (remember tankers you wanted this, the counter for a tank should be another tank)
I don't see tanker's problem here, you wanted tanks to be the only viable method of killing tanks, well rail tanks with damage mods are the only viable way of killing tanks, so you got what you wanted.
Too bad I am almost 100% infantry, having invested 27mil SP into tanks.
But yeah, totally, that's exactly what I wanted, tanks being untouchable by infantry 
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
DUST514514
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SgtDoughnut
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.03.15 00:01:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:SgtDoughnut wrote:So lets see here
1) tank players think they should be 100% untouchable by infantry
2) tank players whine until they get exactly what they want
3) said scrubs (if you need meter thick armor plates to make up for your lack of gun game your a scrub) start to farm infantry with blasters
4) someone discovers a militia fit rail tank is the best weapon to counter tanks (remember tankers you wanted this, the counter for a tank should be another tank)
I don't see tanker's problem here, you wanted tanks to be the only viable method of killing tanks, well rail tanks with damage mods are the only viable way of killing tanks, so you got what you wanted. Too bad I am almost 100% infantry, having invested 27mil SP into tanks. But yeah, totally, that's exactly what I wanted, tanks being untouchable by infantry
Not you in particular cat, but many of the "top teir" tankers that actually left because of these changes were screaming for them all day and night on the forums. |
Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
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Posted - 2014.03.15 00:03:00 -
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Playing ambush to get through my ten matches, tanks just ruin the whole game mode. I'd like to think it's worse then normal because of the event but some how I doubt it.
CCP you better nail 1.8, as it stands 1.7 is a total disaster.
Henchmen21: Infantry
Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
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Temias Mercurial
ANGEL FLEET
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Posted - 2014.03.15 04:01:00 -
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Doc DDD wrote:Yes CCP please take away anything that can counter OP tanks killing infantry and peasant dropship pilots that want to hover over objectives.
The redline is the problem. Fix the redline. Nerfing rails will lead to Nerfing blaster tanks will lead to Nerfing Dropships.
Nerf the REDLINE.
Well... until CCP makes any confirmation to changes to maps and/or the redline, rails really should be nerfed. As a pilot, it's just too damn infuriating. Forges do wonders by the way, against dropships and tanks. There won't be a need to nerfing anything other than the damn rail. |
Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2014.03.15 04:04:00 -
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Serious question, did the swarm nerf help increase the redlining tanks? Were redlining tanks a problem prior to the swarm nerf?
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Are you OUKH?
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Temias Mercurial
ANGEL FLEET
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Posted - 2014.03.15 04:09:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Serious question, did the swarm nerf help increase the redlining tanks? Were redlining tanks a problem prior to the swarm nerf?
They weren't so much of a problem then, just annoying. Rail installations were OP and still are. I was dying back then to swarms and forge guns. Now, before I even get close to infantry, my ship is already falling in a ball of fire. Thank you CCP... that really crushed what I hoped to being able to fly more often without losing millions upon millions... upon millions of isk. |
Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
Lokun Listamenn
3449
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Posted - 2014.03.15 04:11:00 -
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Temias Mercurial wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Serious question, did the swarm nerf help increase the redlining tanks? Were redlining tanks a problem prior to the swarm nerf? They weren't so much of a problem then, just annoying. Rail installations were OP and still are. I was dying back then to swarms and forge guns. Now, before I even get close to infantry, my ship is already falling in a ball of fire. Thank you CCP... that really crushed what I hoped to being able to fly more often without losing millions upon millions... upon millions of isk.
Ok I was wondering because I don't remember the redline Tanks being a problem pre swarm/av nerf.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Are you OUKH?
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