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The Robot Devil
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1928
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Posted - 2014.03.13 00:52:00 -
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Any one going Min logi for the long hard tool? I think I will but I am going to play for a week or three before I invest in a suit. I like using my tool and I want a longer, harder beam of health.
"One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production."
Raoul Duke
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Venerable Phage
Red Shirts Away Team
76
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Posted - 2014.03.13 00:56:00 -
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So your girlfriend has hacked your account? |
Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
2033
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Posted - 2014.03.13 00:59:00 -
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Spurge your golden-love-beam all over my huge Amarrian frame, Minmatar slave.
Assault ak.0 w/ScR+ScP 4LYFE
Forum Warrior Level Two. (GëºGêçGëª)/
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ResistanceGTA
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
448
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Posted - 2014.03.13 01:03:00 -
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Minus the Freudian thing..
Yes, I'm going Min Logi for the Rep Tool Bonus.
xSivartx is my Heavy. There are many like him, but he is my own...
So, other Logi's back off, those are my Warpoints!
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The Robot Devil
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1929
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Posted - 2014.03.13 01:04:00 -
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Both of my wives know how I rep and they don't need to hack my account to put SP into Min logi. My lifetime WP is WAY up there from repping and my CEO is pleased with how I handle my tool.
"One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production."
Raoul Duke
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The Robot Devil
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1931
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Posted - 2014.03.13 01:13:00 -
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ResistanceGTA wrote:Minus the Freudian thing..
Yes, I'm going Min Logi for the Rep Tool Bonus.
I probably will but I am worried that the range bonus will get nerfed. A 50% increase on the Lia Dia bumps it to 50 meters and the Core Flux is up to around 15 then add 15% more repped on top of that and it is going to be difficult to knock down heavies or well tanked armor suits. Kind of worries me.
"One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production."
Raoul Duke
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The Robot Devil
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1931
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Posted - 2014.03.13 01:14:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Spurge your golden-love-beam all over my huge Amarrian frame, Minmatar slave.
Damn dude you don't have to tell everyone.
"One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production."
Raoul Duke
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
3424
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Posted - 2014.03.13 01:14:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Spurge your golden-love-beam all over my huge Amarrian frame, Minmatar slave.
Possibly the best RP post. Ever.
No.
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
3424
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Posted - 2014.03.13 01:16:00 -
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I'll make sure to strap-on some plates and brace myself for rear support when I take my Sentinel into the action.
No.
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Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
901
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Posted - 2014.03.13 01:16:00 -
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Soooo tempted, but I'm going Gallente because I like their 3H/5L and 2HP/sec armor reps better
Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
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MrShooter01
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
574
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Posted - 2014.03.13 01:25:00 -
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I feel like im one of the only players who trained min logi for the hacking bonus but is still ok with the new bonus
I'm looking forward to my double golden shower tool being buffed to 110 hp/s |
General12912
Gallente Marine Corps
105
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Posted - 2014.03.13 01:25:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:Any one going Min logi for the long hard tool? I think I will but I am going to play for a week or three before I invest in a suit. I like using my tool and I want a longer, harder beam of health.
yea, but the rep tool distance is getting nerfed anyways.
Assault Gk.0
Gallente Federation Patriot
General of the Gallente Marine Corps. Look us up if you want to join.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
2037
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Posted - 2014.03.13 01:28:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:I'll make sure to strap-on some plates and brace myself for rear support when I take my Sentinel into the action.
Get ready for my forge gun, big boy.
Assault ak.0 w/ScR+ScP 4LYFE
Forum Warrior Level Two. (GëºGêçGëª)/
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The Robot Devil
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1932
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Posted - 2014.03.13 01:30:00 -
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General12912 wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:Any one going Min logi for the long hard tool? I think I will but I am going to play for a week or three before I invest in a suit. I like using my tool and I want a longer, harder beam of health. yea, but the rep tool distance is getting nerfed anyways.
I thought I remembered reading that, is the numbers out or just being talked about? I am definitely waiting for a while before investing SP in a suit. The nerf is going to hit hard and that's sad.
"One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production."
Raoul Duke
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MrShooter01
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
576
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Posted - 2014.03.13 01:32:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:I'll make sure to strap-on some plates and brace myself for rear support when I take my Sentinel into the action. Get ready for my forge gun, big boy. oh my its going to be difficult fitting enough protection against that much penetrative power |
Fyra Yacile
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.03.13 01:33:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:Any one going Min logi for the long hard tool? I think I will but I am going to play for a week or three before I invest in a suit. I like using my tool and I want a longer, harder beam of health.
I hope that after you've skilled into it CCP completely change the suits role and turn it into an armor tanked scanner suit with a bonus to forge guns ..
Thus rendering all time spent researching the suit and its old role pointless and all sp invested into rep tools and shields pointless |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
3430
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Posted - 2014.03.13 01:33:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:I'll make sure to strap-on some plates and brace myself for rear support when I take my Sentinel into the action. Get ready for my forge gun, big boy.
*scarface voice*
"I take your forge gun"
No.
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
3430
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Posted - 2014.03.13 01:34:00 -
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Fyra Yacile wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:Any one going Min logi for the long hard tool? I think I will but I am going to play for a week or three before I invest in a suit. I like using my tool and I want a longer, harder beam of health. I hope that after you've skilled into it CCP completely change the suits role and turn it into an armor tanked scanner suit with a bonus to forge guns .. Thus rendering all time spent researching the suit and its old role pointless and all sp invested into rep tools and shields pointless
Well someone has an axe to grind.
No.
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The Robot Devil
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1932
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Posted - 2014.03.13 01:37:00 -
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Fyra Yacile wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:Any one going Min logi for the long hard tool? I think I will but I am going to play for a week or three before I invest in a suit. I like using my tool and I want a longer, harder beam of health. I hope that after you've skilled into it CCP completely change the suits role and turn it into an armor tanked scanner suit with a bonus to forge guns .. Thus rendering all time spent researching the suit and its old role pointless and all sp invested into rep tools and shields pointless
Me to, that way I can show you how to HTFU and be a man in a video game. To be honest I know they will change things and I am not worried about it because there is always plenty of warning and a good reason. I stopped crying over games when I was 10.
"One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production."
Raoul Duke
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Wraith 2Logi
Ultramarine Corp
4
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Posted - 2014.03.13 01:39:00 -
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Well already just finished speccing into the Proto Mini logi just for this reason. (And now we're told of suit respec?). Haven't used yet as I run with Gal logi. But go figue the armor race in Dust has to change race to look after it's armor compatriots. |
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The Robot Devil
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1932
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Posted - 2014.03.13 01:39:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:Fyra Yacile wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:Any one going Min logi for the long hard tool? I think I will but I am going to play for a week or three before I invest in a suit. I like using my tool and I want a longer, harder beam of health. I hope that after you've skilled into it CCP completely change the suits role and turn it into an armor tanked scanner suit with a bonus to forge guns .. Thus rendering all time spent researching the suit and its old role pointless and all sp invested into rep tools and shields pointless Well someone has an axe to grind.
I didn't make many friends in the respec thread so some need to lash out and try to make me look like a fool. Little do they know I was looking fool long before the respec thread started.
"One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production."
Raoul Duke
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Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
733
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Posted - 2014.03.13 01:58:00 -
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MrShooter01 wrote:I feel like im one of the only players who trained min logi for the hacking bonus but is still ok with the new bonus
I'm looking forward to my double golden shower streams getting buffed to 110 hp/s
I was initially upset, as when the announcement was made I had zero SP in rep tools. I didn't like the idea of my super squishy logi having to trail around repping someone making myself the true target. But expecting no re-spec I maxed out rep tools and changed my fits to now include a armor repper to account for losing my suit reps. Played a few rounds with an ADV repper and was impressed with what I could make happen for my team and the WP I got for it. Then I used the core repper for the first time and haven't looked back since. I did recently drop my needle for uplinks again as I found the lack of good uplink placement to be a hindrance to winning.
CCP you better nail 1.8, as it stands 1.7 is a total disaster.
Henchmen21: Infantry
Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
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The Robot Devil
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1932
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Posted - 2014.03.13 02:23:00 -
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Henchmen21 wrote:MrShooter01 wrote:I feel like im one of the only players who trained min logi for the hacking bonus but is still ok with the new bonus
I'm looking forward to my double golden shower streams getting buffed to 110 hp/s I was initially upset, as when the announcement was made I had zero SP in rep tools. I didn't like the idea of my super squishy logi having to trail around repping someone making myself the true target. But expecting no re-spec I maxed out rep tools and changed my fits to now include a armor repper to account for losing my suit reps. Played a few rounds with an ADV repper and was impressed with what I could make happen for my team and the WP I got for it. Then I used the core repper for the first time and haven't looked back since. I did recently drop my needle for uplinks again as I found the lack of good uplink placement to be a hindrance to winning.
I like the Lia Dia for its range and dual beam. Right now I rep about 80 something/s @ 30m on two mercs instead of 200+/s @ 10m. I prefer the range because I can rep longer and have more targets. I can't get used to the short range of the Core, I have been carrying two tools on one suit, I like it but it is costly.
"One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production."
Raoul Duke
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ResistanceGTA
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
449
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Posted - 2014.03.13 02:26:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:Henchmen21 wrote:MrShooter01 wrote:I feel like im one of the only players who trained min logi for the hacking bonus but is still ok with the new bonus
I'm looking forward to my double golden shower streams getting buffed to 110 hp/s I was initially upset, as when the announcement was made I had zero SP in rep tools. I didn't like the idea of my super squishy logi having to trail around repping someone making myself the true target. But expecting no re-spec I maxed out rep tools and changed my fits to now include a armor repper to account for losing my suit reps. Played a few rounds with an ADV repper and was impressed with what I could make happen for my team and the WP I got for it. Then I used the core repper for the first time and haven't looked back since. I did recently drop my needle for uplinks again as I found the lack of good uplink placement to be a hindrance to winning. I like the Lia Dia for its range and dual beam. Right now I rep about 80 something/s @ 30m on two mercs instead of 200+/s @ 10m. I prefer the range because I can rep longer and have more targets. I can't get used to the short range of the Core, I have been carrying two tools on one suit, I like it but it is costly.
I have trouble enough repping what I want in a crowd as is, repping at 50m, well, let's just say the demon CRU won't die, but my friends will.
xSivartx is my Heavy. There are many like him, but he is my own...
So, other Logi's back off, those are my Warpoints!
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The Robot Devil
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1932
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Posted - 2014.03.13 02:47:00 -
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It will catch anything but the actual target you want, structures being the worse. To me, the Six will be the go to because the range buff and unless I am repping vehicles I won't use Lia Dia. The range is welcomed if I want to rep vehicles or structures, which is pretty fun if a HAV is trying to pop a resupply and can't do it, then gets popped for having tunnel vision.
I play for fun and I am a bad shot so I have to play how I like or what's the point and I usually push an Amarr logi for the rep bonus. I see players say that the only viable piece of equipment in PC are hives and uplinks, I want to see this change, I want all logi tricks to be needed. With increaded TTK i think tools may be fairly strong. Think about how much a Core Focusd with perfect skills really does, I want all logisticial equipment to be needed and wanted in every game mode. Slayer logi should be bad thing because if you are a logi then you should be supporting not killing.#Logilove
"One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production."
Raoul Duke
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dent 308
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
2545
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Posted - 2014.03.13 02:57:00 -
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Stats on the base tools are all trending down. With minmatar logi 5 the ranges and rep output will all increase, except for the core focused. It will be going down from 175 to 156 or so. The dual stream proto reps will be able to do 130 or so at mad ranges.
Hail Satan
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The Robot Devil
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1932
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Posted - 2014.03.13 03:05:00 -
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dent 308 wrote:Stats on the base tools are all trending down. With minmatar logi 5 the ranges and rep output will all increase, except for the core focused. It will be going down from 175 to 156 or so. The dual stream proto reps will be able to do 130 or so at mad ranges.
Good. I want them out there more and that will increase TTK a little bit also because one less merc is going to be shooting.
"One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production."
Raoul Duke
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Leanna Boghin
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
28
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Posted - 2014.03.13 03:10:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:Any one going Min logi for the long hard tool? I think I will but I am going to play for a week or three before I invest in a suit. I like using my tool and I want a longer, harder beam of health. You know if i was a perverted sort of woman i would totally be reading this post wrong. So wrong on so many levels :P |
Vulpes Dolosus
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
996
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Posted - 2014.03.13 03:21:00 -
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My Logi alt is almost definitely going min Logi. Currently he's a Gal Logi, but I can't stand armor tanking (too slow), and the bonus to scanners isn't as good as the rep tool bonus.
Me in my ADS: 1,2
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MrShooter01
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
578
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Posted - 2014.03.13 03:21:00 -
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Fyra Yacile wrote: I hope that after you've skilled into it CCP completely change the suits role and turn it into an armor tanked scanner suit with a bonus to forge guns ..
Thus rendering all time spent researching the suit and its old role pointless and all sp invested into rep tools and shields pointless
Playing EVE online has taught me to be... flexible with bonuses and roles Many of the ships in the game now barely resemble the versions I started playing the game with. Armageddon laser gank battleship? It's a drone/neut boat now. Cyclone autocannon battlecruiser? Missile boat now.
Patches come, "balance" happens, things change. Whether the changes are good or not is always up for debate, but it's on you how you deal with them
So lets deal with the minmatar logi CRIPPLING NERF cause its a popular one
the Min logi still has a decent built in hacking bonus of 20% (up from the current hidden 15% bonus). The loss of the 25% skill bonus means you'll hack about 1.5 seconds slower. The loss of the self-rep means you'll have to fit an armor repper, but so will everyone else (well, except gallente).
On the other hand, the min logi is getting a significant boost to stamina, a huge boost to stamina recovery, a small bonus to scan precision, and a moderate boost to scan range. (being able to sprint ALL THE ******* TIME is worth a second of hacking speed, no?) I think my minmatar logi saboteur fits could work better than they do now, and all I lost was some slow self repping and a second or two of hack speed. I can fit a standard cloak which might even be helped by the generic equipment fitting bonus. TAKE THAT, SCOUTS.
The changes to amarr tanks though? Yeah, that's silly. Diehard amarr now have silly shield skills they may never use again. Then again the whole thing was silly right from the start. Amarr? Tanking half and half shields and armor? BLASPHEMY. THEY AREN'T EVEN KHANID SUITS. |
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