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Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.03.11 09:30:00 -
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SILENTSAM 69 wrote:Funny attempt at reverse psychology. It should be pretty obvious to most that a respec would benefit those with more SP ore than those with less SP.
I don't care either way really, but there seems to be no good reason besides "we want a respec." The main thing seems to be a confusion about EVE players remapping attribute points and thinking they get SP respecs.
If we get one I will take advantage of it, but I wont cry for one.
A no respec would hurt mid aged players the most for a fresh char it really doesn't matter and for high SP char it won't matter either. If you have close to 40mill SP you already have all you need to be good in 1.8. Sure some vets would reallocate some points to either skill into the FOTM or just to get rid of some mistakes or useless skill due to change in playstyle. But for vets a no respec would just be slightly uncomfortable.
A mid age char stitting 6-10 mill Sp with one role specced out will be several hurt by the upcoming skillchanges |
Hansei Kaizen
The Jackson Five
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Posted - 2014.03.11 09:38:00 -
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Great thread. so funny cause it's true 
The fact is, OP guys will always exist in any game (except Mario Kart ... those commie socialist nintendo pigs ... with their "fun for everyone" gamemechanics-approach. laughable!).
Just because they have 1.better reflexes, 2.more time on hand, 3.more money invested (not neccessarily in that order). Buying Active and Passive Boosters straight for the whole year, capping every week, being in since open beta and starting uprising with already tons of experience, SP and ISK makes you exactly what? Unbeatable. Ever. You will always be getting your SP faster than me. You will play more and know your fittings better than me. You will know the new maps faster than me (if there are gonna be new ones ever again). You will have the more tuned in squad than me.
Considering all that above, all the odds stacked against me ... Im doing pretty well :) cheers. Nothing to be worried about there.
Just one thing: How many of the players out there are as obstinate as me? MMO-Games depend on large Player Bases. How many are gonna be will their way through the hardships of being OWNED by well ... even by me? I'd really like to know. Any experts on this around here? That really worries me, cuz I really like the game, but my friends all quit playing months ago. |
Racro 01 Arifistan
501st Knights of Leanbox
INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
197
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Posted - 2014.03.11 09:44:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:calisk galern wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:Sp really doesn't matter past 15-20mil after that its just player skill and experience. you sir are so wrong ^^ flexibility is an asset in dust, and one that helps teams win. actually it does. i am unnerfable. flexibility trumps speciality every time.
you can be flexible but you will never do that job as well as the specilist, |
D3VASTAT0R
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.11 10:02:00 -
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Racro 01 Arifistan wrote:Charlotte O'Dell wrote:calisk galern wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:Sp really doesn't matter past 15-20mil after that its just player skill and experience. you sir are so wrong ^^ flexibility is an asset in dust, and one that helps teams win. actually it does. i am unnerfable. flexibility trumps speciality every time. you can be flexible but you will never do that job as well as the specilist,
Lolz read again. Let it sink in. Then repost |
Night 5talker 514
Freek Coalition
Freek Alliance
209
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Posted - 2014.03.11 10:36:00 -
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D3VASTAT0R wrote:Racro 01 Arifistan wrote:Charlotte O'Dell wrote:calisk galern wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:Sp really doesn't matter past 15-20mil after that its just player skill and experience. you sir are so wrong ^^ flexibility is an asset in dust, and one that helps teams win. actually it does. i am unnerfable. flexibility trumps speciality every time. you can be flexible but you will never do that job as well as the specilist, Lolz read again. Let it sink in. Then repost
To spell it out, us vets at about 30 mil SP who know what we are skilling into will (by the time 1.8 hits) probably have 5 proto suits, multiple proto weapons and most of dropsuit upgrades tree maxed out. at least that'll be the case for me. So, imagine a flexible specialist across the board. |
steadyhand amarr
TeamPlayers
Negative-Feedback
2529
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Posted - 2014.03.11 10:41:00 -
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Oh well you guys give it a rest noone cares -_-
This method of trying to farm likes got old a while ago come up with a new track. The fourms are getting really boring
"i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk"
winner of EU squad cup
GOGO power rangers
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TheDarthMa94
The New Age Outlaws
WINMATAR.
167
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Posted - 2014.03.11 12:40:00 -
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What skills? Its the connection bro!!!
Sith Apprentice and Director of NAO
"Hahahah, another raspberry bites the dust!"
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Pvt Numnutz
R 0 N 1 N
929
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Posted - 2014.03.11 12:53:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:So true Charlotte. I disagree with you regarding the blaster tanks, but on this one I agree.
The only reason players are anti respec: they are trying to keep the advantage vs new players with low SP. They are so scared to be owned in a console game.
You fool, vets have so much more sp, they will right any wrongs they did trying to make their fotm suits. They will spec into everything that's over powered and continue to kill scrubs. The wise scrub might specialize but I'm sure most will try to do a little bit of everything and then ask for more respecs. But hey If you really want vets to get a reaped I could take my skill points out of gal ar and then put it into my magsec when it comes out, or get my lvl 5 into cal assault dropship, or max out my cal scout, I'm sure a scrub will have a better chance if we all got respecs  |
Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
2635
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Posted - 2014.03.11 12:57:00 -
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I'd be fine if everyone under 20 million got a respec.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
2099
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Posted - 2014.03.11 13:03:00 -
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Racro 01 Arifistan wrote:Charlotte O'Dell wrote:calisk galern wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:Sp really doesn't matter past 15-20mil after that its just player skill and experience. you sir are so wrong ^^ flexibility is an asset in dust, and one that helps teams win. actually it does. i am unnerfable. flexibility trumps speciality every time. you can be flexible but you will never do that job as well as the specilist,
this logic is so odd to me, if their is a skill that makes any major difference I have it, or do you think level 5 scanning precision over level 4 makes you the most amazing slayer in the world?
you see the major difference between a specialist and flexible character tends to have a few more level 5 skills mean while the flexible character can use entirely different fits, and adapt to the battle.
specialist is a good rule of thumb when you are starting out but after a point you need to branch out. |
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Proto Annihilator
Fraternity of St. Venefice
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.03.11 13:09:00 -
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How do you spend SP? I have 33million unallocated. |
Hoover Damn
H.A.R.V.E.S.T.
Legacy Rising
64
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Posted - 2014.03.11 13:10:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:Zekain Kade wrote:A wile SP wipe has appeared! *quit*
Good riddance. |
Disturbingly Bored
Forum Warfare
1990
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Posted - 2014.03.11 13:11:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:Sp really doesn't matter past 15-20mil after that its just player skill and experience. you sir are so wrong ^^ flexibility is an asset in dust, and one that helps teams win.
I think it's more like: after 15-20 mil SP, there is only breadth, not depth. There's a limit to how much SP you can actually put to use on any given fit, and at that point, a newer player can stand toe-to-toe with a bitter old vet just fine. (As long as they got skill.)
I used to own the FAT GAT until this --> [ASCII Art removed - draconian forum overlord CCP Logibro]
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
1762
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Posted - 2014.03.11 13:21:00 -
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It doesn't really matter - most noobs leave the game after a couple of matches anyway. Those sick puppies who stay, like us, are prolly willing to take any amount of abuse.
I support SP rollover.
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calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
2099
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Posted - 2014.03.11 13:23:00 -
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Proto Annihilator wrote:How do you spend SP? I have 33million unallocated.
...why? |
Viktor Hadah Jr
Critical-Impact
2967
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Posted - 2014.03.11 14:03:00 -
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I got so much SP giving me a respec I will just have all the New stuff at proto day one, nothing to work for what is the fun in that.
Selling Templar BPO's 250Mil Last of the BPO's(Click link)
I feed off your tears
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Haerr
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
333
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Posted - 2014.03.11 14:05:00 -
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Charlotte O'Troll wrote:-snip-
Would read, and lol, again. +1
Scanning Table for 1.8: LINK
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The Infected One
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
1015
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Posted - 2014.03.11 14:07:00 -
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Zekain Kade wrote:A wile SP wipe has appeared!
*The rest of the actual playerbase moves on to another game leaving behind the noobs who still continue to shoot the MCC with their ARs*
I am here to ask you one question, and one question only: EXPLOSIONS?
THAT SENTENCE HAD TOO MANY SYLLABLES! APOLOGIZE!
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Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
891
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Posted - 2014.03.11 14:19:00 -
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I've got 30 mil on my main with 2.5 mil unnallocated waiting for Caldari commando. On my alt I've got 20 mil and have been will have my 2nd proto suit by this time tomorrow. Come 1.8 I'll have proto in 5 different suits between my characters, both have all most of the basics maxed, I've got at least prof 3 in 6 weapons and prof 5 in a couple of those. I'd like a respec because the new Amarr logi role doesn't really do it for me, but if I can't its no big deal I've got 4 other proto suits to use.
Its the 5-10 mil players that will benefit the most, newbies the least and us bitter vets are somewhere in between. Either way, more good will come from a respec than harm IMO
Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
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Jack Kittinger
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
178
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Posted - 2014.03.11 14:20:00 -
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The Infected One wrote:Zekain Kade wrote:A wild SP wipe has appeared! *The rest of the actual playerbase moves on to another game leaving behind the noobs who still continue to shoot the MCC with their ARs*
oh look Dark Souls II is out, brb
Proud winner of the 'Templar BPO Raffle' by Castor Crave!!
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Sigberct Amni
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
461
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Posted - 2014.03.11 14:34:00 -
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I too will continue to beat my head against a wall of proto nerds with my no longer viable SP layout. Or I'll keep playing titanfall and posting. Always, always posting. |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
Interstellar Murder of Crows
1814
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Posted - 2014.03.11 14:40:00 -
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I was/still am a staunch supporter of no "at-will" respecs. However, I do support everyone getting one (1) respec once we have full racial parity (Dropsuits, Vehicles and Weapons).
Please note, when I say "Full racial parity", I mean of all things currently in game such as Dropships, HAVs, LAVs, Shotguns, Sniper Rifles etc. I am not including things that we do not yet have such as MAVs, MTACs or speeders.
Kill PC and reclaim all wealth it has generated before it damages the game even further
Closed Beta Bittervet Bomber
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
3072
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Posted - 2014.03.11 14:43:00 -
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The OP is 100% correct. Some people are too stupid to see it, but it's 100% true.
The vets are largely unaffected by a lack of respec. It's the 15-20 mil SP player that stood to gain the most from a respec. Not saying that lower SP players wouldn't benefit, it's just that the impact wouldn't be immediate. A 15 mil SP player with the opportunity to specialize can become very proficient in one roll.
ML Director
Eve Toon - Raylan Scott
Level 3 Forum Warrior
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Beeeees
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.03.11 14:50:00 -
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I like those advanced trolling techniques of yours.
Double-trolling while gaining a personal profit, truly an accomplishment of the rare sort.
Rile up the demanding side into a riot by rubbing salt into the wound, and in the case they get what they want, sh!t on them ingame even more than now.
You see, people that have 30m SP have wasted half of them on things they dont really use often, and dont get significant benefits from. Now that they know what works and what doesnt, in case of a respec they will have the ability to **** you twice as hard, twice as long.
Its brilliant, really.
TOLD514
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Beeeees
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
444
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Posted - 2014.03.11 14:55:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:
Please note, when I say "Full racial parity", I mean of all things currently in game such as Dropships, HAVs, LAVs, Shotguns, Sniper Rifles etc.
I doubt Sniper Rifle, MD, and Laser Rifle will get any racial variants whatsoever due to their nature of unique nieche weapons.
How does one outrange a railgun? How does one outexplode the minmatar? How does one outsparkle the amarr?
TOLD514
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HYENAKILLER X
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
664
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Posted - 2014.03.11 15:07:00 -
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Where is confirmation there will be no respec?
Im not from new eden. I dont need back up, political power or support. I, unlike you dont fear nuetral territory.
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK
General Tso's Alliance
370
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Posted - 2014.03.11 15:23:00 -
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HYENAKILLER X wrote:Where is confirmation there will be no respec?
The writing is on the wall bud.
The events of the past few weeks have all been rather SP heavy...and then there is the 1 million SP giveaway coming up.
The writing on the wall is actually on fire....in 70foot tall letters...on the Empire State Building...with everyones telescope trained on it.
CEO of SAM-MIK...sometimes. (shhh don't tell anyone, they'll start asking questions)
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Malkai Inos
Onikanabo Brigade
Caldari State
1205
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Posted - 2014.03.11 15:24:00 -
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HYENAKILLER X wrote:Where is confirmation there will be no respec? There is none.
That makes this thread both about respecs and rumor mongering.
You can take a benign object, -you can take a cheeseburger and deconstruct it to its source...
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Leonid Tybalt
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
306
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Posted - 2014.03.11 15:42:00 -
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SILENTSAM 69 wrote:Funny attempt at reverse psychology. It should be pretty obvious to most that a respec would benefit those with more SP ore than those with(less SP.
I don't care either way really, but there seems to be no good reason besides "we want a respec." The main thing seems to be a confusion about EVE players remapping attribute points and thinking they get SP respecs.
If we get one I will take advantage of it, but I wont cry for one.
Err, how do you figure that? It's not like I would spend my 22 million SP that different from what it is now. Half of it will still go into HAV related skills (like it is now), and the rest will also pretth much stay the same. In fact the only thing I'd do different is spec out of minmatar logistics to minmatar scout. But that's about all the benefit I would get from a respec. |
Leonid Tybalt
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
306
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Posted - 2014.03.11 15:43:00 -
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Soldner VonKuechle wrote:HYENAKILLER X wrote:Where is confirmation there will be no respec? The writing is on the wall bud. The events of the past few weeks have all been rather SP heavy...and then there is the 1 million SP giveaway coming up. The writing on the wall is actually on fire....in 70foot tall letters...on the Empire State Building...with everyones telescope trained on it.
Where is the confirmation for a 1 million SP giveaway? |
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