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Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 5585	Posted - 2014.03.11 01:35:00 - [1] - Quote My Logistics mk.0 frame that costs 254,130 ISK was just 2 shot killed by a Starter Fit and a STD Shotgun that only costs 610 ISK. Why is this possible? My logi build costs 12 million SP and 254k ISk to run, and he spent at most 50k SP and 610 ISK. I'm spending about 200x more ISK and 240,000x more SP than him, so there's no way he should be able to solo me. These Shotguns need to be nerfed. Someone who didn't even spend half of the ISK or SP that I spent should not be able to solo me. AV > HAV > INF > AV \| Not: HAV > AV GëÑ INF [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 5588	Posted - 2014.03.11 01:42:00 - [2] - Quote Sgt Buttscratch wrote: Pay attention. How do you know the user wasn't a full SP'd scout, most the time I run militia ** on my BPO dragonfly. Because I know what a fully specced SG sounds like. A Proficiency Shotguns sounds like: Blam Blam Blam A Non-Proficiency Shotgun soulds like: Blam...... Blam.... Blam** AV > HAV > INF > AV \| Not: HAV > AV GëÑ INF [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 5588	Posted - 2014.03.11 01:43:00 - [3] - Quote Lightning xVx wrote: Atiim wrote: My Logistics mk.0 frame that costs 254,130 ISK was just 2 shot killed by a Starter Fit and a STD Shotgun that only costs 610 ISK. Why is this possible? My logi build costs 12 million SP and 254k ISk to run, and he spent at most 50k SP and 610 ISK. I'm spending about 200x more ISK and 240,000x more SP than him, so there's no way he should be able to solo me. These Shotguns need to be nerfed. Someone who didn't even spend half of the ISK or SP that I spent should not be able to solo me. Atiim......NO. AV > HAV > INF > AV \| Not: HAV > AV GëÑ INF [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 5588	Posted - 2014.03.11 01:47:00 - [4] - Quote LUGMOS wrote: 3/10 Provides thesis with groups and some evidence, though thorough analysis of evidence is lacking. Also, how did he get within 5 meters of you? He spawned on a CRU that I was about to hack. AV > HAV > INF > AV \| Not: HAV > AV GëÑ INF [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 5592	Posted - 2014.03.11 01:48:00 - [5] - Quote Lightning xVx wrote: I want you to understand the gravity of your statement...if you HONESTLY ran that shotgun...FULL-TIME, you will see that it is not the damage that needs fixing its the horrid hit detection and range. Chromosome had it right. I've actually been running Scouts for a while, and I even have a PRO Shotgun myself. This thread is a troll thread. I'm not actually trying to nerf Shotguns. AV > HAV > INF > AV \| Not: HAV > AV GëÑ INF [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 5592	Posted - 2014.03.11 01:57:00 - [6] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: DJINN Marauder wrote: Hidden tank troll. I just know it Correct. This part is basically a parody of a tanker argument "Someone who didn't even spend half of the ISK or SP that I spent should not be able to solo me." Yet it's not the same argument. At all. How so. The argument pilots present is, "someone who spent less ISK and SP than me should not solo me". Don't make me threadnaught through the forums and show you the 100s of times pilots have used this argument. AV > HAV > INF > AV \| Not: HAV > AV GëÑ INF [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 5592	Posted - 2014.03.11 01:58:00 - [7] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: Troll failed. Also, the comparison is nowhere near the same, as you could hide with the AV nades. Who says this is about AV Grenades? This is about AV in general. AV > HAV > INF > AV \| Not: HAV > AV GëÑ INF [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 5594	Posted - 2014.03.11 02:06:00 - [8] - Quote knight of 6 wrote: subtlety doesn't work on the masses (look at the date before claiming how wrong I am in the linked thread) I'm sending you the bill for a bottle of lotion, as my face is literally burning from how hard I facepalmed. AV > HAV > INF > AV \| Not: HAV > AV GëÑ INF [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 5594	Posted - 2014.03.11 02:08:00 - [9] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Beck Weathers wrote: Dont you mean Buff them? It should have only needed one shot to kil you. With their terible range, hit ditection, and damage shotguns are very underpowered right now. No, when they get fixed, they will be even more op than a hmg....as it 3 shots heavies and 2 shots med frames How? It will have that extreme ganking power yes, but it will only have a range of 2-4m max. AV > HAV > INF > AV \| Not: HAV > AV GëÑ INF [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 5594	Posted - 2014.03.11 02:11:00 - [10] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: You left out a big part of that, and that is reasonably. It was not reasonable how AV nades worked before. Hell, even when they sucked before and now, they're still not reasonable. And I doubt they'll ever be reasonable. I was fine with a slight AV Grenade nerf, but a properly fit HAV could survive 3 Lai Dais and even getting hit by an AV Grenade required you to be within 7m of Infantry anyways. If you drive into a crowd of infantry, you should be punished. AV > HAV > INF > AV \| Not: HAV > AV GëÑ INF [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND

Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 5597	Posted - 2014.03.11 02:29:00 - [11] - Quote HiddenBrother wrote: Facepalm. Problem? AV > HAV > INF > AV \| Not: HAV > AV GëÑ INF [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND

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