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Dr PepperPoP
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Posted - 2014.03.10 19:57:00 -
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Titus Stryker wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:So Oddelulf planets get protection, Bosena planets don't, and then the wider PC is the free-for-all everyone knows and expects. There's two secondary benefits for PFC as well:
1. It provides a possible graduation path for Oddelulf -> Bosena -> Elsewhere.
2. Folks on Oddelulf can fight tougher opponents on Bosena for practice.
My only question: If there's no district flipping, but no enforcement entity, what happens to a district flipper on Bosena? My guess is that they are shunned on the forums and other corps will beat them up and give the flipped district back.
Lmao
My guess is that if there's no enforcement then there's no problem. It's like a mini-PC model that players control, by the sounds of it. |
Dr PepperPoP
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Posted - 2014.03.10 21:08:00 -
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Titus Stryker wrote:BLUNT SMKR wrote:I like the idea n i'm pretty sure RND would want a district
I got a question though
say u want to set up special corp matchs like infantry only, 4v4, n so on
n both corps agree to terms but then the other corp breaks the terms
would there be ways to enforce that or is it just anything goes? My interpretation is that it is an "Honor System" and that no formalities exist with the exception (though still not strictly enforced) of no flipping districts. If you make a gentleman's agreement and it is breached, call them out publicly and move along. If your district is flipped, again call out publicly and ask for help.
The reason I interrupt it differently is based on the 'ideal' that no flipping will occur because of a 'gentlemen's' agreement. That's, to say that least, a fairy tale pipe dream.
W/e comes of this planet - it'll be a brawl fest. The nice part will be how meta goes out the door and just good ol' fights instead. Hopefully they'll add a no ringer rule.
Either way - if there's no enforcement then there's nothing there not making it a part of PC. And how Kane is going to convince NF or anyone this is a good idea is beyond me. Most of us are only interested in making ISK with our good fights, not one or the other. This plan offers nothing in the way of ISK making. So why do it? Just launch an attack on a corp outside of Bosena and make some ISK with your fight.
Basically - I'm not on board with this idea. Seems pointless. |
Dr PepperPoP
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.03.10 22:29:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Fiddlestaxp wrote:I like the idea of using bosena to expand PFC. I don't think this corp battle area will work. The major corps can already play each other almost anywhere on the map. The changes to clone attrition rate negated the usefulness of this idea long ago. The issue is, an attack between these powers anywhere else can be seen as an act of war. In Corp Battles/Fight Club/etc. it's pre-understood that it's just for good fights.
Or.....
You could just mail the corp your attacking, "Hey, it's just fun we're not coming to take it."
There's really no justification for a corp battle planet. Want a good fight? Let me in you on an old NF secret corp training trick.
In a corp match - the real training comes from the synergy you get from working with the same guys. Example: I know when me and regynum rushes a point he will always, always, always go for the first kill he can get then run back to me. He will never let me lead a charge - because he doesn't need too, and he won't go for flank so I can get there frontal attention. He will get there attention and bait them right back to me. All I have to do is get into preferable position for HMG slaughter.
Red line corp games like I get from PFC didn't teach me that. But do you know how a game from PFC from the same guys who got red line would help me learn stuff like that? Rules of Engagement.
Ask both parties to take half the city and half the outside point - and engage with the intent of flip - but never actually flipping. When a point reaches hacked state - attacking party rolls off and defending party re-hacks. Then they switch roles.
This means there's effectively 2 trainings, possibly 3 to 4, happening at once. Your city side is learning how to manage clones in engagements where the other side is putting up links successfully - as well as learning what lanes are used the most to reach what point to accomplish what from where.
Your outside squad is getting similar training - only on a grander scale because vehicles player a larger role. And vehicles themselves will get tons of training as they learn how to counter each others advances and ploys.
And don't forget ADS pilots - they need to learn to communicate better with there teams. They have the best eyes and ears.
Tl;dr A corp battle planet is completely unnecessary with imagination. PFC is a stretch of a concept enough as it is. |
Dr PepperPoP
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.03.11 20:01:00 -
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bigolenuts wrote:Sounds like what PFC was suppose to be and doing for the most part except there is no fee being paid for protection.
As far as a district being flipped or rules broken, it seems as if all the power that be could/would throw an A team at the offending corp and flip it back. Now, why won't this work on PFC? Why must there be a fee to play and stay there?
wtf are you talking about. PFC was run exactly that way until NF recently took over. It didn't work. People farmed, abused, and used PFC to attack PC (Example: AE)
And what ******* powers that be? How about let's say specifically whose in charge of this game: It's AE, NF, FA. These are the 'powers that be' The rest would get removed by these corps instantly if they didn't hire one of them to defend against the other.
Now of these 3 corps - which would be willing to sacrifice logistics and time to maintain a community run project for free for the rest of there time as a top corp in Dust?
It's a damn job. Being a top corp ALONE makes this game near a job for logistical players - and they're the ones who take the work load of keeping PFC clean. It is not a job anyone will do long without compensation.
But your damn ass doesn't want to compensate people with digital space money. You'd rather just cry and ***** and complain.
Stop. Posting. |
Dr PepperPoP
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.03.13 15:05:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:What I would like to be seen done with these Districts:
The establishment of an competitive Dust 514 Player League.
- With seasons and playoffs
-Banned weapons list
-Teams not confined to alliances or corps
-Smaller teams
Now this is something I can get behind.
A planet where tournaments and events take place.
It's almost... as if MH was ruled by someone.  |
Dr PepperPoP
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Posted - 2014.03.13 15:38:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:What I would like to be seen done with these Districts:
The establishment of an competitive Dust 514 Player League.
- With seasons and playoffs
-Banned weapons list
-Teams not confined to alliances or corps
-Smaller teams The possibilities are really endless. All it would take to have small teams is just two host districts to bring in the two groups. We could even have folks that have streaming gear brought in to broadcast the matches.
10 vs 10 tournaments with 2 commentors on each side giving play by play as they walk around the field streaming, getting killed by cross fire for taking dangerous shots.
Ofc this wouldn't be possible for clone pack battles, as cameramen being killed could be the difference of a win or lose lol |
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